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  • #3812
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    The numbers beside their names is the number of crimes they've committed over the past 12 months

    That's a little harsh. In fact the number are the more mundane, each player's latest score for the haka.
    Ben Smith was dropped for this one for poor Artistic Impression in the last one, and Ryan Crotty was deemed even below his own level in both Presentation, and Tongue work viciousness at the finish - and old weakness of his that has often cost his team game. Judges are always very harsh on sloppy tongue work.


  • #3813
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Buer wrote: »
    Like all inferior players, the majority are sub appearances.

    He's really just an ugly Ian Madigan.


  • #3814
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    Former Former wrote: »
    He's really just an ugly Ian Madigan.

    Thought you mean Brodie Retallic they for a minute.... ...bloody hell, he'd give Caligula nightmares


  • #3815
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Retallick will be the first player to reach 200 caps.


  • #3816
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    New Zealand isn't even on a lot of world maps, it's quite surprising to me that they're allowed to award caps for games against them

    It's part of Australia.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=11757883


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  • #3817
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    When is the team announced? It was 8pm last Wednesday


  • #3818
    paulie21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,593 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    .ak wrote: »
    When is the team announced? It was 8pm last Wednesday
    1.30am our time


  • #3819
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Henshaw and George North both ruled out of the tour due to injury.


  • #3820
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    paulie21 wrote: »
    1.30am our time

    Gatland burying the announcement so printed newspapers in the NH will be 2 days behind effectively


  • #3821
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Henshaw and George North both ruled out of the tour due to injury.

    Tour passed them both by, sadly


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  • #3822
    spock.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,502 ✭✭✭spock.


    1. Mako Vunipola
    2. Jamie George
    3. Tadhg Furlong
    4. Maro Itoje
    5. Alun Wyn Jones
    6. Sam Warburton (capt)
    7. Sean O’Brien
    8. Taulupe Faletau
    9. Conor Murray
    10. Johnny Sexton
    11. Elliot Daly
    12. Owen Farrell
    13. Jonathan Davies
    14. Anthony Watson
    15. Liam Williams

    16. Ken Owens
    17. Jack McGrath
    18. Kyle Sinckler
    19. Courtney Lawes
    20. CJ Stander
    21. Rhys Webb
    22. Ben Te’o
    23. Jack Nowell


  • #3823
    Shamrock841
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Shamrock841


    Ahhhh just f**k off Gatland........


  • #3824
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    O'Mahony dropped completely? Warburton starting? Te'o out? Wyn Jones keeps his place?

    Joke.


  • #3825
    Ardillaun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    The Sexton/Farrell pick is interesting. Mr. Gatland is clearly not listening to my advice there and I really hope I am wrong yet again. AWJ is going to have to up his game big time.


  • #3826
    Ardillaun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Nowell deserves inclusion. He has broken a lot of tackles.


  • #3827
    irishman86
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭irishman86


    Ardillaun wrote: »
    Nowell deserves inclusion. He has broken a lot of tackles.

    Way better option of the bench than the one dimensional HP anyways


  • #3828
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Henderson hard done. Harsh on POM, I'd have him or Tipuric ahead of Stander. Maybe the SexFaz connection can do something.

    Best should be on the bench ahead of Owens.


  • #3829
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    That team doesn't inspire confidence I'm afraid, Jamie George maybe Should be out, Jones should definitely be out, Warburton is lucky...seems Gatland is making POM the scapegoat in the backrow.. Te'o dropped...can't see there being too many trys scored by that backline....


  • #3830
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I've just received the delivery of my opinion from the internet. Gatland is only picking this team because he's a bastardman who only likes Wales. That's why he brought an Irishman and two Englishmen into the 23.


  • #3831
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    I've just received the delivery of my opinion from the internet. Gatland is only picking this team because he's a bastardman who only likes Wales. That's why he brought an Irishman and two Englishmen into the 23.

    Fair assessment... he's only swapped Irishmen though, one in, one out :)


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  • #3832
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    Fair assessment... he's only swapped Irishmen though, one in, one out :)

    He dropped an Irishman (for an Irishman), an Englishman (for an Englishman) and a Welshman (for an Englishman). Get him out of there before he does any more damage to the sport.


  • #3833
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    He dropped an Irishman (for an Irishman), an Englishman (for an Englishman) and a Welshman (for an Englishman). Get him out of there before he does any more damage to the sport.

    I don't think anyone is playing the Welsh card, I just think he's made some shïte selections and that he's reverted to type


  • #3834
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    I don't think anyone is playing the Welsh card, I just think he's made some shïte selections and that he's reverted to type

    What type has he reverted to?


  • #3835
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    What type has he reverted to?

    Putting his trust in players that he's familiar with...but aren't capable of delivering a win


  • #3836
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    Putting his trust in players that he's familiar with...but aren't capable of delivering a win

    Not one of the guys he's brought into the 23 are guys he's familiar with. The guys he's introducing are guys he's mostly unfamiliar with. And he's dropped Halfpenny, a favourite, for someone he's totally unfamiliar with.

    Rather than being motivated by him being a terrible bastardman who hates everything but Wales, maybe the changes are being made for rugby reasons.


  • #3837
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Not one of the guys he's brought into the 23 are guys he's familiar with. The guys he's introducing are guys he's mostly unfamiliar with. And he's dropped Halfpenny, a favourite, for someone he's totally unfamiliar with.

    Rather than being motivated by him being a terrible bastardman who hates everything but Wales, maybe the changes are being made for rugby reasons.

    Nope, he's got a spine of players there that aren't performing, havent performed so far in the tour, and won't do any better this weekend.


  • #3838
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    Nope, he's got a spine of players there that aren't performing, havent performed so far in the tour, and won't do any better this weekend.

    Who are they?


  • #3839
    Buer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Changes are correct for the most part. AWJ a very lucky boy. I said before that POM was in danger of missing out entirely to Stander or Tipuric due to not being suited to the bench.

    Elliott Daly has incriminating photos of Gatland. Ridiculously lucky.

    Farrell a bit fortunate in so far as Te'o wasn't anything special last week but was more efficient than Farrell generally.


  • #3840
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Daly being involved has been a mystery from the beginning and he's done nothing really to change my mind on that. Hopefully we see an improvement this week from him but I'd have had Nowell starting ahead of him in both tests. North is ruled out of the tour now so Daly might stick it out.


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  • #3841
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Daly being involved has been a mystery from the beginning and he's done nothing really to change my mind on that. Hopefully we see an improvement this week from him but I'd have had Nowell starting ahead of him in both tests. North is ruled out of the tour now so Daly might stick it out.

    It's too early for the level of outrage I'm feeling right now. Gatland sending Murray out to get targeted again and still hasn't called up David Wallace to go out there and watch his back.


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