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Men of boards, what innocent behaviors have you changed out of fear?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Murrisk


    As said, she's a composite of the well-known groupies of the day, some of whom were 13 or 14 when they started out. It's not at all clear that she was over 18. Much was made of Patrick Fugit's character being so young for a journalist in the film. Whereas young groupies would be very normal so a big deal wouldn't be made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Murrisk


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    Her age is never stated. The fact that the 15 year old main character is targeted and it's seen as par for the course strongly implies that starting young is not seen as a big deal, male or female. This is a bad example of a double standard. Even if Hudson's character is 19 (and that would be the absolute max), what age do you think she had to start being a groupie at to be consider a veteran at that age?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1 Comfortably Erect


    This last few posts really make me wish I was a 70s rock star with a harem of teenage groupies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Yep.

    This modern PC stuff definitely has a chilling effect of self-censorship

    What about Sansa Stark. What age is she now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,070 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    If I'm Tesco or some such and there's a kid in the aisle I'm in I tend to ignore them.
    Which is really a sad state of affairs but I'd rather not have parents giving me glares or assuming I'm going to whip their baba.
    I'm only in to do me shopping!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Kids when my girls have sleepovers I intentionally ensure I am never alone with the sleepoverees.

    If a kid fell I would still pick them up tho cos thats outside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    No hands down Evo psychology is a soft science. Agree with you 100%, very few hard facts established, all theories and personal opinions

    But biology a soft science, seriously? :confused:

    Evolutionary biology


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


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    Eyes wide shut,the shop keepers daughter, however you are meant to be horrified and find the whole thing creepy

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,788 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Permabear wrote: »
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    It can be pretty shocking going back and watching older films, even ones from the 70s. There are scenes that could easily be described as rape expect the women are portrayed as liking it, even though if you took the smiles off their faces the whole setup is basically men forcing themselves on women.

    It goes to show how much things have changed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    ScumLord wrote: »
    It can be pretty shocking going back and watching older films, even ones from the 70s. There are scenes that could easily be described as rape expect the women are portrayed as liking it, even though if you took the smiles off their faces the whole setup is basically men forcing themselves on women.

    It goes to show how much things have changed.

    It was old style pedoing, before it got such a bad name. (Mark Corrigan)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Permabear wrote: »
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    See post 278 above which references the portrayal of the violent rape of teenage Sansa Stark in moderately popular mainstream show "Game of Thrones"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Murrisk


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Would it have been portrayed exactly like that? Probably not. But if anything, that's quite cartoonish and the portrayal of the groupies in the film is more sly and, in a way, treated as a more everyday occurence. Famous musicians sleeping with young groupies was depicted as more "Yeah, so? Of course it happens, we don't even need to make a big deal about". I'm not sure which is worse, to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Good points, but I don't think it's portrayed in The Reader that the older woman has done him a favour. The boy grows up and is shown to be very affected by the relationship they had, mostly negatively. It's implied his marriage breaks up because of his initial experiences with Hanna and knowing that it was wrong on some level. If I remember the book correctly, it's made more clear in that. I think that's why it was such a good film- she is a very complex, deeply flawed character.

    Haven't seen Almost Famous so can't comment on that one. :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭Shelga


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    But she's not seen as excusable or redeemable. She's a Nazi!- and is sent to prison for the rest of her life and shunned by society. The affair remains secret so is neither excused nor condemned.

    We don't need to look to film for examples of men who have been celebrated after seducing young girls- Roman Polanski and Woody Allen to name but two. That the former won an Oscar after committing statutory rape of a 13 year old girl when he was 44 is quite frankly disgusting.

    In short, I know what you mean about it being seen as exciting when an older woman seduces a young boy, but I don't think it's something that people really do accept as fine in reality.

    Edit: For balance, I also think Macron becoming romantically involved with a 30 something woman who was his teacher when he was 15 is deeply unsettling, and find the explanations of "oh that's so French" to be quite weird/unnerving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    "Notes on a scandal" doesn't exactly portray the teacher sleeping with her student all that sympathetically.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    greencap wrote: »
    Shooting the messenger will help.

    You've had numerous potential evolutionary benefits of homosexuality for a species pointed out to you. You've simply ignored them and focused solely on sperm. You seem to have an obsession with ejaculate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/27/a-man-helped-a-lost-toddler-find-her-parents-police-say-he-was-smeared-online-as-a-predator-and-fled-town/

    Lakeland police, in a Facebook post, said the falsely accused man was visiting friends at a softball game when he noticed at a 2-year-old had gotten separated from her parents. She was “wandering by herself,” police said, and the man “believed that she was lost.

    “The citizen attempted to ask the girl where her parents were and walked with her in hopes she could point them out,” the statement said, a fact verified by at least one independent witness.

    At that point, “bystanders” told the parents that the man was “attempting to kidnap the child,” said police.

    As the two were nearing the playground, three men approached them from behind, Patch reported. One man grabbed the girl and the other man, who is the child’s father, punched the man five or six times.

    “I thought he was trying to take my daughter,” the girl’s father told News Channel 8.

    “I saw this man with my daughter in his hands walking toward the parking lot. What would you do?” the father asked. “I wanted to kill him.”
    Police concluded that the man was only trying to help. “We had an independent eyewitness that saw him walking around, asking, ‘Is this your parents? Is that your father?’” Sgt. Gary Gross with the Lakeland Police Department told Fox 13 News.
    The father and his friends were not satisfied with the man’s explanation or that of the police. “So, I guess in Lakeland, you can kidnap a child and get away with it,” the father said to police, local media reported. The police report, local media said, described the father as “increasingly agitated.”

    According to WFLA, other media outlets and police, family members and friends went on social media and shared the man’s photo, his Facebook page and his place of business, “calling him a child predator,” WFLA said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    B_Wayne wrote: »
    You've had numerous potential evolutionary benefits of homosexuality for a species pointed out to you. You've simply ignored them and focused solely on sperm. You seem to have an obsession with ejaculate.

    Yes i do. Love the stuff.

    Really though nobody could answer the point i made with anything substantial, so they resorted to various digressions and 'holier than thou' ness.

    Additionally lots of things have a benefit. No cloud without a silver lining is the expression i believe. 9/11....opportunity for new fresh architecture.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


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    Many panties were twisted. That much is true.

    My form follows function point was never addressed though.

    Lots of evasion. Digression. Whataboutery. Some snooty denial.

    Yet there it is. A man equipped to make babies with women, yet with differing instincts.

    Hardware type A. Software type B. Not propitious to species survival.


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