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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    seats going into Pairc Ui Chaoimh. Why they are not red and white is bizarre tbh. leg room looks good though

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/video/sport/the-new-stand-in-pairc-ui-chaoimh-is-nothing-if-not-spectacular-445792.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    But it's not "Cork's" ground though, it's Munster's. Would be odd if it was red tbf. Isn't the point to get more games staged there and have it as a proper "neutral" venue a la Croker.

    (I know the CCB own it though)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    But it's not "Cork's" ground though, it's Munster's. Would be odd if it was red tbf.

    Sure Munster's colour is red ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Stoner wrote: »
    Sure Munster's colour is red ;)


    Only team in red in Munster that might win something :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Red fades much quicker
    Grey barely fades
    I presume they'll have some coloured seats to spell out Parc Ui Chaoimh or something?

    I wonder were the seats moulded in Castlepollard?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    The Munster colours are blue and navy in fact, which is why Kerry's second strip is usually something along these lines:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    keane2097 wrote:
    The Munster colours are blue and navy in fact, which is why Kerry's second strip is usually something along these lines:
    Noooo that's Leinster it's all about the world cup these days Keane!!

    Cork wore blue back in the day too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Honestly the idea of giving a fiddler's fart about rugby is just alien to me these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    on course for early June opening according to the Cork Co Board

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,041 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    on course for early June opening according to the Cork Co Board

    17917453_1683961655239224_8648650575697476983_o.jpg?oh=20a195fd40fa51dddc53259f8ffd5349&oe=59559B1D

    Who decided to put such a big roof on it, most the pitch is in the shade!

    (Tongue in cheek)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Will there be any championship games there this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Cork's qualifiers ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,703 ✭✭✭blue note


    What was the outcome of the EU investigation into the funding for this stadium? I remember it being an issue and I couldn't see how it was a justifiable use of public money, so I was interested in hearing how it was going to be answered. But as far as I can see the question was ignored and now it has gone away - is that accurate?

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/shock-as-30m-pirc-u-chaoimh-grant-facing-eu-probe-34158532.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Pairc Uí Rinn is perfect for Cork league games. The other place is hardly ever going to be used and is in probably worst location of any major stadium in the country. Besides that, the different arrangements between counties mean it would be seldom used, other than every second year for football final. Sounds like a bit of a vanity project to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    Surely it could be used for football 1/4 finals. Bar the dubs and Ulster teams. If a Munster team or Galway/Mayo were to be playing then would they not look at playing it there as opposed to a half empty Croke Park?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    blue note wrote: »
    What was the outcome of the EU investigation into the funding for this stadium? I remember it being an issue and I couldn't see how it was a justifiable use of public money, so I was interested in hearing how it was going to be answered. But as far as I can see the question was ignored and now it has gone away - is that accurate?

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/shock-as-30m-pirc-u-chaoimh-grant-facing-eu-probe-34158532.html

    The EU approved it in the end but said that no more government money was allowed be used. I'd say there was some fun conversations behind closed doors on this one - had the whiff of political pressure being applied.

    What no-one seems to be asking about is the shortfall in the funding.

    A huge chunk of the premium tickets remain unsold (supposedly divisional boards have been pressured into using their funds to buy some), the amount they are going to get for naming rights is supposedly less than budgeted for, there's going to be no concert there this year when the plan was for up to 3 a year to be held, footballers are going to be in Division 2 again next year (which probably won't make much of an impact on the number of Cork supporters at the games but will have a serious impact in terms of away supporters)

    The big one is the premium tickets which were supposed to raise €13 million but apparently there's something of the order of a €10 million short-fall there. The Cork County Board will continue releasing pictures of the stadium but won't say a word about the finances of the project.

    This is in addition to there being a fairly severe over-run on the initial budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,162 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Surely it could be used for football 1/4 finals. Bar the dubs and Ulster teams. If a Munster team or Galway/Mayo were to be playing then would they not look at playing it there as opposed to a half empty Croke Park?

    Cork is a hell of a lot harder to get to from Galway or Mayo than Dublin is.

    Plus other the new AI QF structure each team will have a home, an away and a game in Croke Park.

    It's a vanity project, just like every other redevelopment in the GAA, no centralized control over what makes sense to build where and what can be best utalized.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Surely it could be used for football 1/4 finals. Bar the dubs and Ulster teams. If a Munster team or Galway/Mayo were to be playing then would they not look at playing it there as opposed to a half empty Croke Park?

    Whatever about a Munster team, driving from Galway/Mayo to Cork is an absolute disaster of a route. By comparison going from Galway/Mayo to Limerick and the Gaelic Grounds is a much easier route.

    Why should PUC get preference over Semple, Limerick or Killarney in that case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,368 ✭✭✭✭shmeee


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Pairc Uí Rinn is perfect for Cork league games. The other place is hardly ever going to be used and is in probably worst location of any major stadium in the country. Besides that, the different arrangements between counties mean it would be seldom used, other than every second year for football final. Sounds like a bit of a vanity project to be honest.

    The stadium will only ever be full for a concert. They will get the 30k or so maybe at some Munster Finals etc, but that's about it. It's out of the way for any AI 1/4 Finals etc or big double headers. It's in an awful location.

    Cork County Board Just want something to show off!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Where will the 'Centre of Mediocrity' be located?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    Where will the 'Centre of Mediocrity' be located?

    They'll squeeze in 1 pitch behind the main stand. Sure what more do we want?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    The EU approved it in the end but said that no more government money was allowed be used. I'd say there was some fun conversations behind closed doors on this one - had the whiff of political pressure being applied.

    What no-one seems to be asking about is the shortfall in the funding.

    A huge chunk of the premium tickets remain unsold (supposedly divisional boards have been pressured into using their funds to buy some), the amount they are going to get for naming rights is supposedly less than budgeted for, there's going to be no concert there this year when the plan was for up to 3 a year to be held, footballers are going to be in Division 2 again next year (which probably won't make much of an impact on the number of Cork supporters at the games but will have a serious impact in terms of away supporters)

    The big one is the premium tickets which were supposed to raise €13 million but apparently there's something of the order of a €10 million short-fall there. The Cork County Board will continue releasing pictures of the stadium but won't say a word about the finances of the project.

    This is in addition to there being a fairly severe over-run on the initial budget.

    I see in the paper that the Board are offering to arrange finance for the 10 year tickets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    some up to date pics of PUC on the Cork City forum here on boards (page 55 and 56)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055945115&page=56


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭CK22


    This is some farce by the county board, the contractors and anyone else involved in this joke

    Statement from Cork County Board G.A.A.
    Issued 12/06/17

    The new Pairc Ui Chaoimh stadium will not host either of the Munster Finals scheduled for July, as originally planned.

    Cork County Board was informed this morning that the scheduled handover date of June 18th would not now be met. There are still some commissioning works to be completed and these will be finished by July 7th. The first game in the new stadium will take place in mid July.

    Cork County chairman, Ger Lane said: “Clearly we are disappointed but we want everything to be pristine before the stadium hosts its first major games. We want to be certain that all the expectations for this tremendous new facility will be fully met and we are satisfied that this will be the case by mid July.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    disappointing but needs to be done right rather than rushed. Of course Our Dear Leader delayed his retirement to oversee the project, will he be held to account?

    would imagine there will be club game or two there instead of having 30-40k on the very first day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Fears P?irc U? Chaoimh cost may rise to €85m

    Friday, June 16, 2017
    Denis Hurley
    Cork County Board have refused to comment amid fears that the cost of the P?irc U? Chaoimh redevelopment project may rise to €85m.

    With original estimates for the stadium redevelopment at €70m, in November 2015 a special meeting of county board delegates was informed that the figure had risen to €78m. It now appears that that figure had been revised upwards again, but there has been no official comment from Cork chiefs.

    Board chairman Ger Lane would not comment on speculation that the cost had increased towards the €85m mark.

    Lane did confirm yesterday that a stadium manager for the new P?irc U? Chaoimh will not be appointed immediately.

    On Monday, it was revealed that the stadium wouldn’t be open in time for either Munster final this year, with an event in late July — expected to be the All-Ireland hurling quarter-finals — instead slated as the opening.

    While delegates at Tuesday’s monthly county board meeting were not updated on the process of recruiting a stadium manager, Lane has revealed that an appointment is not in the offing.

    “There’s no appointment and I don’t foresee any immediate appointment either,” he said.

    “All of that will be dealt with by the executive and the steering committee. Anything in relation to that will come before the executive, but we’re not appointing a stadium manager in the short-to-medium term.”

    Last November, John Mullins — chairman of the stadium business committee, charged with the commercial side of the operation — said the appointment of such a person was the next significant step.

    “We’ve drawn up a job description and there have been conversations with a recruitment agency while, as you might expect, a number of people have been in touch and sent in CVs in advance of that happening,” said Mullins.

    “We have to get this right, and in all our conversations on this topic we’ve mentioned people like Peter [McKenna, Croke Park stadium manager] and Martin [Murphy, Aviva Stadium].

    “These guys were brought in ahead of the commissioning of the stadium, and generally with these guys you need people who know every nook and cranny of the stadium they’re managing, and that’s what we want.

    “So we have a job description and we’ve had conversations with recruiters about this, because obviously these guys don’t grow on trees.”

    However, the job was not advertised and no interviews took place. For now, it would appear that the organisation of the facility will be kept in-house.

    “Before we had the stadium, a lot of that was done by the senior administrator anyway,” said Lane.

    “If you were booking the stadium for Sciath na Scol or whatever, or P?irc U? Rinn for training, that was done through the office.”

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/fears-pairc-ui-chaoimh-cost-may-rise-to-85m-452595.html

    When planning was being looked for back in 2014, the initial proposed cost was €67 million; then that got bumped up to €70 million and it's 18 months since the €78 million was admitted.Everything I've heard says they will be haunted to get away with €85 million.

    As for the stadium manager position guff, it just stinks to high heaven.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/cork-county-board-decision-on-pairc-ui-chaoimh-planning-due-in-a-week-254593.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    not advertised, appoint from within, sounds liker normal practice for the CCB. Frank will need a job when he is finished overseeing the redevelopment


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    To be honest, that you could be selling 10 year tickets without even having a stadium manager in place to manage and promote the stadium is just a joke. They clearly have the job promised to "one of the boys"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    GAA have confirmed hurling 1/4 finals in PUC on July 23


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    GAA have confirmed hurling 1/4 finals in PUC on July 23

    Did they check with the Cork County Board if the stadium will actually be ready for then ?:P


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