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12 years for ex-shinner

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Is this 'good Republican' still bunking in the executive landing down in Portlaoise?


    he is not a republican, never mind a good republican.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    Jesus Wept wrote: »
    Seems like a bit of banter that got put of hand.

    There may have been drink involved (water)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


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    what you describe as a war was nothing more than a campaign of terror against innocent civilians.


    correct, by the rucba and loyalists. the ira did kill civilians and while we must condemn such killings, it was not ira policy to target civilians unlike the rucba and loyalists.
    LordSutch wrote: »
    Planting bombs in pubs, clubs, buses & trains, in shops & cars which kill & maim people can only be called Terrorism, there is no other word for it. Shooting off duty policemen, knee capping young lads & strapping people into vehicles loaded with semtex 'on a one way journey' to hell is also terrorism.
    Armed Bank robberies (North & South), post office raids, killing Gardai, torture, blackmail, smuggling, gun running, kidnappings & extortion, money laundering - Making people disappear -

    And all in the name of a "United" Ireland

    Of course it was Terrorism, but did it hasted the Unity of the island, or delay it?

    the rucba and loyalists also caried out the same acts.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    correct, by the rucba and loyalists. the ira did kill civilians and while we must condemn such killings, it was not ira policy to target civilians unlike the rucba and loyalists.

    Sure that made incidents like dividing factory workers by their religion and shooting the Protestants at Kingsmill fine so. Or the use of incendiary devices at La Mon which meant most victims were burned alive. 'Twasn't policy like?
    the rucba and loyalists also caried out the same acts.

    Could you outline the incidents of proxy bombing carried out by "rucba"?

    Thanks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    a


    correct, by the rucba and loyalists. the ira did kill civilians and while we must condemn such killings, it was not ira policy to target civilians unlike the rucba and loyalists.



    the rucba and loyalists also caried out the same acts.
    So ??? Who cares??? Killing people is not normal???

    None of it is normal. Parades with face masks. Attacks even revenge attacks who says oh my Dad died ...gotta go kill now.

    I'm sorry but these people are freaks. All of them.

    ALL OF THEM...

    Like 'I don't kill people I just march with a face mask on' THAT IS YOUR STANDARD?

    The people of the north both sides need to be told a home truth of two. Mainly that a lot of them are acting like scumbags. Not just on the extreme level. Who paints big assed mural on walls ?? WTF??

    It's WEIRD!

    I used to think all NI people where freaks both sides ..until i met started to meet them and realized they all thought those people were freaks too.

    If you have ever worn a face mask outside you are a weird weird person.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    a


    correct, by the rucba and loyalists. the ira did kill civilians and while we must condemn such killings, it was not ira policy to target civilians unlike the rucba and loyalists.



    the rucba and loyalists also caried out the same acts.


    tell that to the 2 children killed in warrington. you are familiar with that i assume?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bomb_attacks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,074 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    So ??? Who cares??? Killing people is not normal???

    Actually, it has been normal since the dawn of time and is even continuing to this day by one of the parties to our own conflict/war.
    Namely the British, who have always killed in pursuit of their aims.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Actually, it has been normal since the dawn of time and is even continuing to this day by one of the parties to our own conflict/war.
    Namely the British, who have always killed in pursuit of their aims.
    Do you realize what you are saying is kind of strange?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    I can never have a rational conversation with anyone who sympathizes with SF ..they are on another planet...you are better off giving up. They are weird. Half of this stuff is in their heads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,074 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Do you realize what you are saying is kind of strange?

    No. Realistic but nothing strange if you open your eyes. When was killing people not 'normal' in pursuit of aims? I'm all ears.


    *This in no way suggests I condone the killing of people.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    No. Realistic but nothing strange if you open your eyes. When was killing people not 'normal' in pursuit of aims? I'm all ears.


    *This in no way suggests I condone the killing of people.
    What are you talking about?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    The British Army isn't killing anyone ...so what are you talking about?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    What was the guy they water boarded supposed to have done? Not saying I condone what they did but would like to know what was their excuse for doing it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,074 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The British Army isn't killing anyone ...so what are you talking about?

    Not just at the moment..maybe not. But they have done, many times since our conflict/war ended and will do again...in pursuit of their aims around the world.

    I am still waiting for you demonstrate when killing people was not 'normal' in the world.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Not just at the moment..maybe not. But they have done, many times since our conflict/war ended and will do again...in pursuit of their aims around the world.

    I am still waiting for you demonstrate when killing people was not 'normal' in the world.
    Now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    As in if you kill your neighbor today I assure you people will think it's not normal. They would think you were weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,074 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Now.

    Nobody is being killed now? :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    The British Army isn't killing anyone ...so what are you talking about?

    Not defending violence on any side here and this might be seen as an unpopular thing to say after the terrible attacks in the UK. But he sort of has a point. Yes people around the would are still being killed everyday in the name of freedom. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39598979


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,074 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Not defending violence on any side here and this might be seen as an unpopular thing to say after the terrible attacks in the UK. But he sort of has a point. Yes people around the would are still being killed everyday in the pursuit of aims, whatever they may be.

    Slightly amended that to be more precise.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Nobody is being killed now? :eek:
    Not usually. No. It's unusual for people to be killed in ROI. We're lucky. Because we have learnt to be normal.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Not defending violence on any side here and this might be seen as an unpopular thing to say after the terrible attacks in the UK. But he sort of has a point. Yes people around the would are still being killed everyday in the name of freedom. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39598979
    World peace ..should be normal. You should all be pacifists. Take an oath of pacifism.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Join my movement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,074 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    World peace ..should be normal. You should all be pacifists. Take an oath of pacifism.

    It has nothing to do with me personally or you or what we believe.

    The truth is, killing has been a normal way to achieve aims since the dawn of time. And as we can see it is still a 'normal' way to achieve aims around the world today.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    Slightly amended that to be more precise.

    What ever. Personality I don't agree that in this day and age we should go around killing each other. But even Obama who won a Nobel peace prize ordered more drone strikes than any normal person would order takeaways. Even in ten obese lifetimes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    And as we can see it is still a 'normal' way to achieve aims around the world today.
    uh ..no ...:confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    World peace ..should be normal. You should all be pacifists. Take an oath of pacifism.

    Totally agree but all I'd like to know was the guy they were waterboarding a pacifist? If he was let's say a drug dealer. Then I would say a sentence like they got could be considered harsh. Especially if it had the effect of getting the dealer to reexamine his business model. In that case they should be just charged with being stupid enough to video it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    Totally agree but all I'd like to know was the guy they were waterboarding a pacifist? If he was let's say a drug dealer. Then I would say a sentence like they got could be considered harsh. Especially if it had the effect of getting the dealer to reexamine his business model. In that case they should be just charged with being stupid enough to video it.
    :confused: da ****?? NO that is ..SO WEIRD

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    You gotta be joking! Or trolling!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    I think you need to take the oath Farmer ED



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    I don't believe in violence. But every day in this country thousands of lives are being destroyed by drug dealers. If the guy was a drug dealer and I am not saying he was . Then yes IMO that should have been a mitigating factor in deciding the sentence. On the other hand if for example they just decided to water board the guy cos they took a personal disliking to him. Then yes lock them up and throw away the key. However locking them up may involve having to restrain them and could be viewed as borderline violence?

    Feck I'm just going g back to meditating! This is a head wrecker!


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