Creepy neighbour

tecknika · 11-06-2017 07:46PM #1

I've an apartment in the city and have a neighbour in another apartment who has set up a camera to monitor the comings and goings. The one I can see has been set up on a wall that isn't his and is aimed at the most local carpark spaces by the entrance (which he is obsessed with parking in) and the communal bin shed.

Thing is anything that anyone takes to the bins is clearly being watched by him live as he goes to the curtain and if any of the spaces outside his door are taken then as soon as anyone comes down to their car he is up like a shot and waiting to claim it even before you have reversed out.

I find the whole thing very creepy that someone would be sitting and watching in real time all the comings and goings from our development even though he doesn't work there.

I must note that his place also looks into the garden area on mine and a few other families from all sides so maybe he has more cameras. He works for one of the well known global security companies so has all the equipment set up for his voyeurism.
What would the board here do in such a situation?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 11-06-2017 07:49PM

Creepy. But if he's not causing any harm or there is no evidence of privacy invasion, I'd just ignore him but give a big wave/thumbs up/finger every time I was on camera.

sf80 · 11-06-2017 07:49PM

As far as I am aware that's illegal. Report it to the data protection commissioner.
Here's some of their info about it: https://www.dataprotection.ie/docs/Data-Protection-CCTV/m/242.htm ;
e.g. "Cameras placed so as to record external areas should be positioned in such a way as to prevent or minimise recording of passers-by or of another person's private property."

Fr_Dougal · 11-06-2017 07:50PM

You seem to know a lot about him...who's the voyeur?

tecknika · 11-06-2017 07:53PM

sf80 wrote: »

As far as I am aware that's illegal. Report it to the data protection commissioner.
Here's some of their info about it: https://www.dataprotection.ie/docs/Data-Protection-CCTV/m/242.htm 
e.g. "Cameras placed so as to record external areas should be positioned in such a way as to prevent or minimise recording of passers-by or of another person's private property."

Thought so. The large one records every time myself/family or my neighbors come and go from our homes and each time we even remove waste. It also covers all the kids who play at the end of the cul-de-sac which didn't seen right at all.

tecknika · 11-06-2017 07:54PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You seem to know a lot about him...who's the voyeur?

The neighbors all mention his behavior and OCD. If his favourite carpark space comes free at 3am he is out the door before you reverse in his car four spaces down to move it in.

If is extreme to a whole new level.

sf80 · 11-06-2017 07:58PM

In the interest of fairness, you've called them creepy and said hey have OCD - this would be questionable in Ireland under the defamation act. Don't identify them.
Try to understand that they might have been the victim of crime and this might be their way of dealing with it.

tecknika · 11-06-2017 07:58PM

Under this principle, this Office would expect that a data controller would have carried out detailed assessments as to how the use of such equipment meets with these requirements and would have the following steps carried out and documented:

A Risk Assessment
A Privacy Impact Assessment
A Specific Data Protection policy drawn up for use of the devices in a limited and defined set of circumstances only (this policy should include documented data retention and disposal policy for the footage)
Documentary evidence of previous incidents giving rise to security/health and safety concerns
Clear signage indicating image recording in operation.

I might go and demand this later

tecknika · 11-06-2017 07:59PM

sf80 wrote: »

In the interest of fairness, you've called them creepy and said hey have OCD - this would be questionable in Ireland under the defamation act. Don't identify them.
Try to understand that they might have been the victim of crime and this might be their way of dealing with it.

I find it Creepy

I don't like my kids playing games in view of his cameras.
OCD, fair enough but a few neighbours have commented on the behaviour.

myshirt · 11-06-2017 08:00PM

100% illegal

SEPT 23 1989 · 11-06-2017 08:00PM

Sounds like a dealer who is using the security job story as a front

sf80 · 11-06-2017 08:01PM

The data protection commissioner expects some reasonable discussion to take place before they need to take action. I'm not sure how this works in a private setting, but you'll have a less stressful time if you try to approach them amicably with a clear mind. Express your concerns calmly rather than via demand and threats.
You will have a stronger case if you are calm and reasonable and receive anger in ressponse

jamesbere · 11-06-2017 08:02PM

People like this need to get a life.

sf80 · 11-06-2017 08:06PM

tecknika wrote: »

sf80 wrote: »

In the interest of fairness, you've called them creepy and said hey have OCD - this would be questionable in Ireland under the defamation act. Don't identify them.
Try to understand that they might have been the victim of crime and this might be their way of dealing with it.

I find it Creepy

I don't like my kids playing games in view of his cameras.
OCD, fair enough but a few neighbours have commented on the behaviour.

I understand that, but putting it in print, if the person is identifiable somehow and it is untrue, is illegal in Ireland.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/act/31
Also, be careful about insulting gods in Ireland since we have that other silly act

tecknika · 11-06-2017 08:08PM

sf80 wrote: »

I understand that, but putting it in print, if the person is identifiable somehow and it is untrue, is illegal in Ireland.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/act/31
Also, be careful about insulting gods in Ireland since we have that other silly act

I am entitled to find being recorded by a neighbour creepy. So stop being ridiculous.

As for the blasphemy law. We all seen how embarrassing that was with the Stephen Fry case for the state. I have science and objections to a clearly written text on my side.

As for saying someone may have OCD...

Joeseph Balls · 11-06-2017 08:14PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Sounds like a dealer who is using the security job story as a front

Easy there Jessica Fletcher

sf80 · 11-06-2017 08:15PM

I'm just trying to point you to some useful information and things you might want to consider. You are entitled to consider that to be ridiculous.

tecknika · 11-06-2017 08:16PM

sf80 wrote: »

I'm just trying to point you to some useful information and things you might want to consider. You are entitled to consider that to be ridiculous.

Under this principle, this Office would expect that a data controller would have carried out detailed assessments as to how the use of such equipment meets with these requirements and would have the following steps carried out and documented:

A Risk Assessment
A Privacy Impact Assessment
A Specific Data Protection policy drawn up for use of the devices in a limited and defined set of circumstances only (this policy should include documented data retention and disposal policy for the footage)
Documentary evidence of previous incidents giving rise to security/health and safety concerns
Clear signage indicating image recording in operation.

THIS WAS USEFUL

SmartinMartin · 11-06-2017 08:20PM

I would take great pleasure in ballying up and spraying his lenses black.

ToddyDoody · 11-06-2017 08:27PM

Is there a residents association you could bring it to?

mikeybrennan · 11-06-2017 08:29PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You seem to know a lot about him...who's the voyeur?

Your daddy

Beyondgone · 11-06-2017 08:31PM

Mint.
I wish I had a neighbour like that. You'd save a fortune on alarms and stuff. He's better than having a security guard.

tecknika · 11-06-2017 08:32PM

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Is there a residents association you could bring it to?

Think he is on it. Might talk to a solicitor and see if they could write to him on my behalf if they agree it has solid basis. I will do a detail of the situation tonight.

AnneFrank · 11-06-2017 08:35PM

It's odd behaviour, but not dangerous, not sure you can do anything tbh

tecknika · 11-06-2017 08:36PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

It's odd behaviour, but not dangerous, not sure you can do anything tbh

I will not let my children play in the front of the house due to being filmed all the time by someone who is clearly sitting and watching in real time. I find it creepy.

greencap · 11-06-2017 08:39PM

So the guy has a bit of the ol ocd.
Some close doors, some wash their hands.

Let him have his feckin space.

Maybe park a tiny dumb n dumber scooter in the sacred space and record what happens.

Yourself isit · 11-06-2017 08:41PM

sf80 wrote: »

In the interest of fairness, you've called them creepy and said hey have OCD - this would be questionable in Ireland under the defamation act. Don't identify them.
Try to understand that they might have been the victim of crime and this might be their way of dealing with it.

You can't defame somebody who isn't named.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 11-06-2017 08:46PM

tecknika wrote: »

I will not let my children play in the front of the house due to being filmed all the time by someone who is clearly sitting and watching in real time. I find it creepy.

So, he's there all day and still watching at 3am????

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 11-06-2017 08:48PM

Yourself isit wrote: »

You can't defame somebody who isn't named.

Read what he said first i.e be careful not to identify the person or location.

gctest50 · 11-06-2017 08:50PM

With all the nice weather you should have a party for the kids

With lasers

Need to be careful with them though

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 11-06-2017 08:52PM

gctest50 wrote: »

With all the nice weather you should have a party for the kids

With lasers

Need to be careful with them though

Nice. Advocating criminal damage. Good one.

Creepy neighbour

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