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2017 UK General Election - 8th June

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Partionist tweet he made long before he was in charge so this accusation isn't the "new narrative"

    https://twitter.com/campaignforleo/status/702523651082551298

    Read the replies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,861 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    seamus wrote: »
    True, but money trumps everything. People who have lost money feel personally betrayed.

    FF collapsed the Irish economy and you saw (hundreds of) thousands of die-hard FF voters switch sides.

    If the DUP oversee the establishment of a hard border within the Republic, the resultant damage to NI exports will destroy them.

    Agreed, but the same logic applies to Sinn Fein. They are standing idly wringing their hands and crying for someone else to do something while they refuse to go into government in Dublin, refuse to elect Arlene Foster and refuse to take their seats in London. All very well keeping their election promises, but if the country suffers as a result, they will suffer too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,861 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Jayop wrote: »
    Partionist tweet he made long before he was in charge so this accusation isn't the "new narrative"

    https://twitter.com/campaignforleo/status/702523651082551298

    Read the replies.


    I wouldn't call that a partitionist tweet. All he is doing there is pointing out the economic mess that is West Belfast and the fact that it's MPs have done little or nothing to alleviate it.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,832 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    I've just heard MayBot's speech.

    Looks like her programmer has loaded the wrong speech into her, it was almost like she had a massive majority apart from the mentions of the DUP.

    It's the MayBot in a Nutshell, completely detached from reality and the public, just like the campaign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    May seems to be in complete denial over what has just happened. The opposition benches are going to rip her apart.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    May seems to be in complete denial over what has just happened. The opposition benches are going to have a field day with her.

    It could all come apart very quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Hard to see it lasting the summer. She has no legitimacy as leader anymore - the electorate basically gave her the two fingers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,220 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    So will one of the DUP MPs get a Ministerial position in return for their support I wonder?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    blanch152 wrote: »
    I wouldn't call that a partitionist tweet. All he is doing there is pointing out the economic mess that is West Belfast and the fact that it's MPs have done little or nothing to alleviate it.

    lol, yeah your impartiality in this matter would make your view totally independent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    So will one of the DUP MPs get a Ministerial position in return for their support I wonder?

    Nope, it's not a classic coalition. No cabinet posts.

    They may demand a seat at the brexit table though. That'll go great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Sky News: Donald Tusk congratulates Theresa May.

    Lol!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Sky News: Donald Tusk congratulates Theresa May.

    Lol!

    Well you can hardly expect him to point and laugh :D.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,832 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    May seems to be in complete denial over what has just happened. The opposition benches are going to rip her apart.

    She's been in denial for the whole campaign, that's why she lost so many seats.

    She seemed to be living in a fantasy world and still is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Jayop wrote: »
    Part one of post - Varadkar is being wrongly labeled a partitionist by people trying to blacken him.

    Part two of post - Unionists welcome comments by Varadkar.


    You don't see how the two could contradict each other?

    Ask the ones doing the labelling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I have never seen social media exploding in the way it has since this announcement.

    Post and tweet after one another explaining who the DUP really are.
    I wonder how much of it is impacting in Britain, if it's getting the traction it is here this neat little arrangement could all go pear shaped for the Tories yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Jayop wrote: »
    lol, yeah your impartiality in this matter would make your view totally independent.

    Likewise you :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,753 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    I have never seen social media exploding in the way it has since this announcement.

    Post and tweet after one another explaining who the DUP really are.
    I wonder how much of it is impacting in Britain, if it's getting the traction it is here this neat little arrangement could all go pear shaped for the Tories yet.

    Goes to highlight a wider problem of general ignorance in Britain towards NI.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Ask the ones doing the labelling.
    Likewise you :confused:

    Hang on, I was responding to this specific claim...
    It's the new narrative from a certain section lately, try blacken him by labelling him as a Thatcherite partionist.

    I said read the comments. They go back almost a year and a half ago and he was being called a partitionist then. This isn't a new accusation or something just thought of since he got the FG leadership. My post was proving that that accusation has been around a long time.

    Whether you want to accept that him putting down areas of the north for his own political gain is in fact partitionist behavior is a whole other argument.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Hard to see it lasting the summer. She has no legitimacy as leader anymore - the electorate basically gave her the two fingers.

    So who has them, if she hasn't?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,814 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Mod: Normal service has been resumed. If we could be done with the name calling, one-liners, digs and other nonsense I would be grateful.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,861 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I have never seen social media exploding in the way it has since this announcement.

    Post and tweet after one another explaining who the DUP really are.
    I wonder how much of it is impacting in Britain, if it's getting the traction it is here this neat little arrangement could all go pear shaped for the Tories yet.

    Social media is a very difficult medium to analyse. Most of the time, an individual is fed news stories, tweets and posts that align with their pre-existing views.

    One person's explosive day on Twitter is another user's quiet day.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,832 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Adam Boulton has just broke on Sky News that there will be no cabinet reshuffle or announcements today from the Tories despite the fact it was said that it would happen earlier this afternoon.

    Now whispers that the Tory party are not giving May enough support in order to announce a new cabinet and are making demands and conditions for their continued support for their leader.

    May appears that already she is coming under severe pressure from her own wafer thin majority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Social media is a very difficult medium to analyse. Most of the time, an individual is fed news stories, tweets and posts that align with their pre-existing views.

    One person's explosive day on Twitter is another user's quiet day.

    That is just it, I don't express any political views on FB or Twitter.

    I would be interested in other posters experiences.
    They are coming from people who would not normally be posting political stuff.
    Strong element of revulsion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Jayop wrote: »
    Whether you want to accept that him putting down areas of the north for his own political gain is in fact partitionist behavior is a whole other argument.

    Weren't they official stats he posted? And it's certainly not partionist. Are you going to call everyone who say parts of the north are ****holes partionists?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Social media is a very difficult medium to analyse. Most of the time, an individual is fed news stories, tweets and posts that align with their pre-existing views.

    One person's explosive day on Twitter is another user's quiet day.

    Not really. On twitter if you're following hashtags like #GE17 or today #DUP you're seeing what everyone is posting, not just people who you follow. If you only look at your own time line then it's an echo chamber.

    https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=news&q=%23DUP&src=tyah

    That's the actual reaction to the DUP news from all over twitter, but just what someone wants to see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Weren't they official stats he posted? And it's certainly not partionist. Are you going to call everyone who say parts of the north are ****holes partionists?

    If they're doing it purely for selfish political gains then yes.

    When someone who's supposed to be a leader of all the people of Ireland posts something like that without any acceptance of the circumstances that led up to that for his own gain then yes, he's an absolute...........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    As mentioned, people's eyes on the 'mainland' are certainly being opened​ to the DUP if Twitter is anything to go by.

    And I'm basing this on a variety of GE tags as opposed to anyone who I may be following


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,670 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    As mentioned, people's eyes on the 'mainland' are certainly being opened​ to the DUP if Twitter is anything to go by.

    And I'm basing this on a variety of GE tags as opposed to anyone who I may be following

    Clearly the 'new alliance' is making a few Tories nervous if Adam Boulton is right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Theresa May's arrogance should match up well with the DUP. She has just made one of the greatest political cock ups in tory history-and that's saying something-and yet came out at lunchtime with a 'now lets's get to work' speech as if she hadn't royally f****d up!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Jayop wrote: »
    And besides, fuk the hundreds of thousands of your fellow citizens, right? Typical.

    We don't all feel like that, for what it's worth.


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