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Galway mosque attacked last night during prayer.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    I hope those responsible are caught and dealt with quickly.

    Would love to know why they were praying so late at night 11.20 pm and why they had children there at that time. Do these children not have to get up for school?


    Look up 'Ramadan'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    pilly wrote: »
    I would hope there's a hint of sarcasm in your post?

    Otherwise your locals are easily antagonised.

    No there's no sarcasm. The locals are very easily antagonised. So far there has been nothing more than cross words but I wouldn't have much faith in the local thugs leaving it at that unfortunately. They make life hell for tbeir own community, let alone those perceived as outsiders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Like the vandalism on the George was due to the fact it was close to the same sex marriage referendum, the fact Ireland is becoming more homophobic, the rise of Donald Trump, etc etc...

    The fact is most attacks etc in Ireland are done by mentally ill or stupid people. The individual who did this might just be mentally ill

    It was several people, according to witnesses. Perhaps they were on their way to a mentally ill or stupid people's support group meeting when their afflictions overcame them.

    I mean, really I feel more sorry for them than for the Muslims who triggered them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    No there's no sarcasm. The locals are very easily antagonised. So far there has been nothing more than cross words but I wouldn't have much faith in the local thugs leaving it at that unfortunately. They make life hell for tbeir own community, let alone those perceived as outsiders.

    Nice place to live. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    While obviously undesirable, revenge attacks are an inevitable and natural consequence of the terror attacks... particularly when many people feel that there is a lack of a coordinated and robust response from those in authority!

    Just to be clear, I am in no way condoning such behaviour. I just don't see how it can realistically be prevented if the current climate prevails.

    The flip side of such attacks, is possibly that Muslim communities might start taking a more active role in policing their own people. Because currently it's far too easy for the majority of Muslims to just turn a blind eye or shift responsibility elsewhere.

    It is their religion!!

    All Muslims need to recognise that there is something rotten and evil hidden within their ranks... and they need to be more proactive in dealing with it. Talking about peace is one thing, but actions speak louder than words... I think it is time more Muslims showed their commitment to peace, by doing more to prevent radicalisation!

    Your username is a double-shot of ironic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    RustyNut wrote: »
    I dont think thats a Muslim thing. You would want to see my local Catholic church whenever they have mass.

    I'm well aware of that. But it's not an issue here wheras the mosque's parking is and scumbags don't tend to think too deeply about these things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    This type of thing will become common occurrence because of the snowballing amount of terror attacks in the past 18 months. It's unfair on the people who just want to go about their daily lives and aren't harming anyone but imo it's an inevitable anti social consequence. Those responsible are vile but there's many of those people are out there.
    While obviously undesirable, revenge attacks are an inevitable and natural consequence of the terror attacks... particularly when many people feel that there is a lack of a coordinated and robust response from those in authority!

    Just to be clear, I am in no way condoning such behaviour. I just don't see how it can realistically be prevented if the current climate prevails.

    The flip side of such attacks, is possibly that Muslim communities might start taking a more active role in policing their own people. Because currently it's far too easy for the majority of Muslims to just turn a blind eye or shift responsibility elsewhere.

    It is their religion!!

    All Muslims need to recognise that there is something rotten and evil hidden within their ranks... and they need to be more proactive in dealing with it. Talking about peace is one thing, but actions speak louder than words... I think it is time more Muslims showed their commitment to peace, by doing more to prevent radicalisation!

    no, it's not inevitable - it's only inevitable if certain politicians continue to blow their dog whistles.

    I look forward to the Guards catching them and some cranky DJ getting medieval on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    pilly wrote: »
    Nice place to live. :mad:

    No it's not. But it's hardly news that there are antisocial kips out there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭Somedude9


    Worryingly they weren't teenagers but adult men.

    Idiots!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    We could say the very same about rapists.

    All males need to recognise that there is something rotten and evil hidden within their ranks... and they need to be more proactive in dealing with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Cazale


    The flip side of such attacks, is possibly that Muslim communities might start taking a more active role in policing their own people. Because currently it's far too easy for the majority of Muslims to just turn a blind eye or shift responsibility elsewhere.

    It is their religion!!

    Most victims of ISIS are Muslim. Your argument is the same one loyalists used in the North when targeting uninvolved nationalists hoping they would put pressure on the IRA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    There needs to be greater education through the media on the branches of Islam. Attacking this mosque is like vandalizing a Church of Ireland church because of something the Catholic church did. It's dumb, its stupid, its pointless.

    It is Sunni Wahabi's that are causing this. Not Shia, Not Ahmadiya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    A very disappointing display considering this is an Ahmadi mosque. Seems like if anything these "brave" thugs have done nothing the terrorists wouldnt do themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    A very disappointing display considering this is an Ahmadi mosque. Seems like if anything these "brave" thugs have done nothing the terrorists wouldnt do themselves.

    These people couldn't spell Islam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Wouldn't be surprised it this was linked to that Galway 44 neo-nazi group that has popped up lately and run by a Canadian weirdo living in the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭Strong Life in Dublin


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Probably had political motive in light of recent events, so yes

    lol its vandalism not a terror attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Your username is a double-shot of ironic.

    Your reply is single shot of ignorance...

    But more than enough to give a taste of your likely proclivities! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    Is this a terror attack?

    Unlikely. I dont think it was muslims this time, probably just stupid vandals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Nagnata


    So was it one window broken by a stone or was there more damage done?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Jawgap wrote: »
    no, it's not inevitable - it's only inevitable if certain politicians continue to blow their dog whistles.

    I look forward to the Guards catching them and some cranky DJ getting medieval on them.

    Well I disagree. If they can't catch ISIS operatives they're not going to catch three skangers in a car lobbing bricks out the windows in the middle of the night.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    No there's no sarcasm. The locals are very easily antagonised. So far there has been nothing more than cross words but I wouldn't have much faith in the local thugs leaving it at that unfortunately. They make life hell for tbeir own community, let alone those perceived as outsiders.

    Have you ever been to mass or a wedding at the Cladagh? Using your logic I would have expected that place, and all cars around it, to be smashed up on an almost daily basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭NoCrackHaving


    They attacked and Ahmadiyya Muslim mosque, seriously? Idiots. The Ahamdiyya are known for how incredibly peaceful and well integrated they are everywhere they go. In fact they regularly get attacked by Sunni extremists, such as the shopkeeper who was murdered in Glasgow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    All Muslims need to recognise that there is something rotten and evil hidden within their ranks... and they need to be more proactive in dealing with it. Talking about peace is one thing, but actions speak louder than words... I think it is time more Muslims showed their commitment to peace, by doing more to prevent radicalisation!

    Why do people constantly need to refer to Muslims when talking about radicalisation? It's not something solely unique to Muslims.

    In the North there was massive radicalisation of both the Catholics and Protestants during the troubles. Evil is all around us and it isn't restricted to one specific religion.... Islam has 1,5 billion adherents, making up over 22% of the world population.

    This radicalisation is not due to a specific faith, its by people for whatever reasons, have an axe to grind or want to cause mayhem and destruction and are using their faith as the excuse. If religion didn't exist, they would find another reason, religion is just the excuse they are using.

    Some of the actions of the West has helped grow the radicalisation in the same manner as the actions of the British Army during the troubles was the singular biggest driver to IRA recruitment.

    Bottom line is that the likes of ISIS want us to blame Muslims in general and not the specific people or factions - they want a them versus us scenario. They want Muslims to suffer and be castigated as a result, as ironically this will drive more Muslims to their cause. The entire point of their operation is to cause mayhem and terror that will lead to a knee jerk reaction so they can then recruit the disenfranchised Muslims who have been badly treated or accused for no reason other than their faith.

    The only way to curtail this extremism is to work with Muslims and trust them. There is a risk of radicals using this to their advantage but to further isolate them will just bolster the cause of Isis and result a greater threat down the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭NoCrackHaving


    While obviously undesirable, revenge attacks are an inevitable and natural consequence of the terror attacks... particularly when many people feel that there is a lack of a coordinated and robust response from those in authority!

    Just to be clear, I am in no way condoning such behaviour. I just don't see how it can realistically be prevented if the current climate prevails.

    The flip side of such attacks, is possibly that Muslim communities might start taking a more active role in policing their own people. Because currently it's far too easy for the majority of Muslims to just turn a blind eye or shift responsibility elsewhere.

    It is their religion!!

    All Muslims need to recognise that there is something rotten and evil hidden within their ranks... and they need to be more proactive in dealing with it. Talking about peace is one thing, but actions speak louder than words... I think it is time more Muslims showed their commitment to peace, by doing more to prevent radicalisation!

    The Ahmadiyya community are incredibly peaceful and to the best of my knowledge no Ahmadiyya extremism has ever occured. In fact in many ways they're much closer to Christianity than Islam. As a result they're often ostracised by mainstream Sunni Islam.

    I can guarantee you they have no role to play in encouraging extremism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    Have you ever been to mass or a wedding at the Cladagh? Using your logic I would have expected that place, and all cars around it, to be smashed up on an almost daily basis.

    They should also stay away from Portlaoise on a GAA match day... absolute 'car'nage :-P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Have you ever been to mass or a wedding at the Cladagh? Using your logic I would have expected that place, and all cars around it, to be smashed up on an almost daily basis.

    I'm not sure what you think my logic is? I'm not familiar with Claddagh or Galway in general. My concerns are for my local area where scumbags are plentiful and vandalism and antisocial behaviour is rife. Perhaps you have more faith in scumbags than I have but my experience doesn't leave me optimistic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Well I disagree. If they can't catch ISIS operatives they're not going to catch three skangers in a car lobbing bricks out the windows in the middle of the night.

    Yeah, because these geniuses will fade back into their communities and say nothing......of course they won't they'll be out shooting their mouths off about it and in a city the size of Galway it won't be long until they're in custody.

    ISIS operatives!! Really, what lead you to that conclusion - it seems like these terrible events in London, Manchester, Paris etc are only claimed after the fact by ISIS - it's more a case of disturbed and disillusioned young men falling prey to a corruption of a peaceful religion than 'operatives' recruited, trained and despatched on missions.

    But, yes, the idea of 'operatives' and the idea that there is some kind of 'guiding mind' behind these events suits the verbal outpourings of certain politicians on the right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Absolutely disgraceful - this is the last thing we need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭NoCrackHaving


    Wouldn't be surprised it this was linked to that Galway 44 neo-nazi group that has popped up lately and run by a Canadian weirdo living in the city.

    I always find far right bollocks in Ireland an odd one due to our history. Do you remember that antisemitism in Cork (if I remember rightly, definitely Munster anyway) 5-6 years back against Jewish tourists? It was some smallish town that I doubt had ever had any Jewish person ever visit but yet there were a handful of knuckledraggers out protesting.

    Seems something similar here.

    As an aside surely if he's a Canadian he should just be deported as an undesirable?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭Matt.ie


    I would be concerned about the mosque in my area. They already antagonise locals with disgraceful parking and mass abandonment of cars all over the greens and grass verges. It won't take much for the local thugs to feel vindicated in causing trouble for them.

    They're not gaa supporters as well are they? :D


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