Apple Market Roof/canopy?

Road-Hog · 04-06-2017 2:27pm

Sosurface wrote: »

I agree it was/is a ****hole but instead of a fix we got what looks like a brand new eyesore. And can anybody explain why the surface was paved, then sections cut from the paving and patched up with tarmac? Looks bloody disgraceful down there tbh.

Those patches/areas you are taking about are most likely an architectural feature ?

As for your eyesore comment......beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....one mans meat is another mans poison.....etc etc. You think your view is superior than everyone else ? I suggest you do a survey either an online one like you can set up on boards.ie or perhaps a face book one....most parisians abhored the Eiffel Tower initially

JohnC. · 04-06-2017 7:31pm

I don't think the tarmac bits were paved and then cut out. They were never paved to begin with. At least several patches I've witnessed them working one. Because, you may not believe this, they aren't finished yet.

Sosurface · 04-06-2017 7:38pm

Road-Hog wrote: »

Those patches/areas you are taking about are most likely an architectural feature ?

Tarmac as an architectural feature? Is it in honour of our newest ethnic grouping? I think leaving some of the barriers in place and making a cage for them would have been more appropriate tbh.

Max Powers · 04-06-2017 8:30pm

Sosurface wrote: »

Tarmac as an architectural feature? Is it in honour of our newest ethnic grouping? I think leaving some of the barriers in place and making a cage for them would have been more appropriate tbh.

More racist/hate comments from so surface, I don't know what's more pathetic at this stage, the racism or the remarkable lack of any reasonably well thought of points in any of his posts.

In most cases, the tarmac is there to facilitate services points for buildings, gas, water, etc.clearly when relevant supplier gives ok/puts in meter, they'll be paved..can't believe that it has to be said.this is the kind of nonsense you have to deal with when some who are looking for silly things to whinge about.

Gaspode · 05-06-2017 7:21am

OK quit with the personal attacks & stick to the subject at hand

taytobreath · 05-06-2017 7:10pm

I'm assuming there will be seating from the cafes and pubs and and various street furniture under the roof. Maybe even those gas heated lamps for winter.

Max Powers · 05-06-2017 8:20pm

taytobreath wrote: »

I'm assuming there will be seating from the cafes and pubs and and various street furniture under the roof. Maybe even those gas heated lamps for winter.

Think I heard on radio council consulted shops/pubs in area about future arrangements,owner of bodega on wlr few weeks ago.

Chiparus · 05-06-2017 11:44pm

Max Powers wrote: »

Think I heard on radio council consulted shops/pubs in area about future arrangements,owner of bodega on wlr few weeks ago.

I think there will be issue with the traffic access to spring garden alley?

Max Powers · 06-06-2017 6:33am

Chiparus wrote: »

I think there will be issue with the traffic access to spring garden alley?

I don't know why you think that, there's direct access maintained in plan.

Chiparus · 06-06-2017 10:09pm

I think it is a great space now, I could see concerts and other functions occurring there , but part of the space is a road, I think it would be great if they opened the other end of the alley

Luckycharms_74 · 08-06-2017 8:49am

Down there last night and they started the mirror cladding. I though it would be seamless but appears to be gaps/joins at the moment and I hope it's not finished yet

Deiseen · 08-06-2017 9:11am

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Down there last night and they started the mirror cladding. I though it would be seamless but appears to be gaps/joins at the moment and I hope it's not finished yet

Because of its shape, you will have gaps on the side but I'm sure they will have pieces cut and placed in there (I hope!) Are they putting the pieces up fast? As in did they only start that day and was it half through the day when they had those pieces up or the end of the day?

Luckycharms_74 · 08-06-2017 9:15am

Deiseen wrote: »

Because of its shape, you will have gaps on the side but I'm sure they will have pieces cut and placed in there (I hope!) Are they putting the pieces up fast? As in did they only start that day and was it half through the day when they had those pieces up or the end of the day?

That was after 6pm yesterday. They started yesterday morning .

Harry Palmr · 08-06-2017 9:37am

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Down there last night and they started the mirror cladding. I though it would be seamless but appears to be gaps/joins at the moment and I hope it's not finished yet

Check if you are going bald here! Down blouse checks as well :pac:

08-06-2017 3:08pm

Looking good, can't wait to see the finished product. Hopefully the gaps will be filled so it all looks like one panel

buzzinfly83 · 10-06-2017 8:53pm

Progress seems very slow at the moment. The first part of it seemed to fly up. I think it's going to look great when it's finished. Pass by it everday and it's looking good.

TheQuietFella · 13-06-2017 11:08pm

It's an absolute ðisgrace! Only in Waterford would they or could they put up such a monstrosity! Who gave pp or sanctioned spending on same? It's like one of the star cruisers from Star Wars! A long time ago in a City far, far away......

Chiparus · 13-06-2017 11:10pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

It's an absolute ðisgrace! Only in Waterford would they or could they put up such a monstrosity! Who gave pp or sanctioned spending on same? It's like one of the star cruisers from Star Wars! A long time ago in a City far, far away......

Yes but what do you really think?:rolleyes:

TheQuietFella · 13-06-2017 11:15pm

I think Waterford CC got mugged!

Chiparus · 13-06-2017 11:40pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

I think Waterford CC got mugged!

I think it is a wonderful idea and much better that the market selling chinese muck / taxi rank.

Wanderer78 · 14-06-2017 4:58am

TheQuietFella wrote:

It's an absolute Ã°isgrace! Only in Waterford would they or could they put up such a monstrosity! Who gave pp or sanctioned spending on same? It's like one of the star cruisers from Star Wars! A long time ago in a City far, far away......

A spaceship, oh I really wanna see it now!

Chiparus · 14-06-2017 6:11am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

A spaceship, oh I really wanna see it now!

naboo-queens-royal-starship-j-type-327-3d-model-obj-dxf-stl-dwg-sldprt-sldasm-slddrw-ige-igs-iges.jpg

shockwave · 14-06-2017 7:44am

TheQuietFella wrote: »

It's an absolute ?isgrace! Only in Waterford would they or could they put up such a monstrosity! Who gave pp or sanctioned spending on same? It's like one of the star cruisers from Star Wars! A long time ago in a City far, far away......

You're forgetting that carbuncle outside Sam McCauleys chemist in Broad st. the apple market one is a bigger version of it.

ArtVandelay76 · 14-06-2017 8:30am

Don't let the negativity consume you.

Max Powers · 14-06-2017 9:19am

Star cruiser...brilliant, does that make the wacky Apple the mos eisley cantina.I like the place more now and I think with that description you do too quiet fella ;-)

TheQuietFella · 14-06-2017 9:28am

ArtVandelay76 wrote: »

Don't let the negativity consume you.

But what is its purpose? Another improvement like The Quays they'll argue!
It will be torn down within ten years!

TheQuietFella · 14-06-2017 9:36am

Max Powers wrote: »

Star cruiser...brilliant, does that make the wacky Apple the mos eisley cantina.I like the place more now and I think with that description you do too quiet fella ;-)

Sadly not Max! Do they have any concept of good taste within WCC?
The beautiful red brick buildings are now partially covered!
It was an area that needed some investment particularly towards SGA
but it needed investment from private enterprise also. The pub on the corner
could do with some major refurbishment. It'll become nothing more then a
place to take a piss during the winter months!

bullpost · 14-06-2017 10:01am

Got a first look last weekend. Hard to know what to make of it. Could look great when its finished and also if its got inbuilt lighting could look very nice at night. Maybe with some complementary planting to soften the "industrial" look .

kaef · 14-06-2017 10:26am

I was passing by this morning and there were over quarter of mirrored steel sheets installed. I think it will create amazing reflections (if only kept clean in thee future)

Max Powers · 14-06-2017 11:13am

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Sadly not Max! Do they have any concept of good taste within WCC?
The beautiful red brick buildings are now partially covered!
It was an area that needed some investment particularly towards SGA
but it needed investment from private enterprise also. The pub on the corner
could do with some major refurbishment. It'll become nothing more then a
place to take a piss during the winter months!

Clearly not your bag then, others like it.what should be remembered is any new building will by and large have this type of construction modern materials techniques....steel, glass, etc.e.g. Michael street shopping centre will probably complement it, the new car park on old WIT, same.

TheQuietFella · 14-06-2017 11:50am

But therin lies the issue Max!
New buildings do not have to be so bold and brassy in view but
blend into the environment. This along with the new Centre will be
visual eye sores upon the Waterford landscape in my view!

Luckycharms_74 · 14-06-2017 12:14pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Sadly not Max! Do they have any concept of good taste within WCC?
The beautiful red brick buildings are now partially covered!
It was an area that needed some investment particularly towards SGA
but it needed investment from private enterprise also. The pub on the corner
could do with some major refurbishment. It'll become nothing more then a
place to take a piss during the winter months!

So you expect local business to put money which they may not have into their business just to blend in with the roof ??

What kind of refurbishment you suggest

The council have dictated as to what you can and cant do to the exterior of your premises and what seating will be used for the outside areas

Wanderer78 · 14-06-2017 12:17pm

Chiparus wrote: »

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i ll be very disappointed if it doesnt look like this:D

Dunmoreroader · 14-06-2017 12:37pm

Went down for another look this morning and I think it's going to be terrific. Something as big and bold as this is always going to look raw and brash at the beginning but when it's finished and the pubs & restaurants around it put out seating, do themselves up where needed, hang bunting etc, it'll be the dogs boll0x.
Re the Quiet fellas comment about the red brick; there's no point in building something that tries to blend in with older architectural styles and materials from different eras - I think the architects call that pastiche. Better to build something bold and modern to really make a statement, and I think they will achieve that aim. But of course time will tell.
But I say well done to all involved and I'm really looking forward to my first pint of Clonmel's finest in a pint glass full of ice sitting in the shade on a hot summers day outside Geoffs or Heerys listening to some tunes looking up at the reflection of the sun on the icecubes on the roof mirror........aaahhh.......:cool:

Dum_Dum · 14-06-2017 12:47pm

My view is this is just an intelligent solution to Ireland's climate. If this is successful, perhaps a similar (and obviously larger) structure in John Roberts Sq. Additionally, some clever tree planting to attenuate strong winds on exposed sides.

Dum_Dum · 14-06-2017 12:50pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

But therin lies the issue Max!
New buildings do not have to be so bold and brassy in view but
blend into the environment. This along with the new Centre will be
visual eye sores upon the Waterford landscape in my view!

Normally I'd agree; but there is nothing of existing architectural merit in either locations meaning even the most mediocre additions are improvements.

Max Powers · 14-06-2017 1:15pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

But therin lies the issue Max!
New buildings do not have to be so bold and brassy in view but
blend into the environment. This along with the new Centre will be
visual eye sores upon the Waterford landscape in my view!

Fair enough suppose but just because a new structure is a bit incongruous doesn't make it bad.red brick and stuff like that is lovely, granted but people like this modern stuff too, me included in certain circumstances.New stuff can be bold and different, the medieval museum is completely different to other structures but still fantastic, maybe not best example but there are loads.we can't be beholden to keeping things as is,I know that's not what you're saying, but IMO, Apple market is not some architectural gem that we can't alter so it's all down to one's taste.much like any new shopping centre is not going to be a red brick structure in keeping with ginos and an siopa.you don't like it,I do, none of us are 100%

TheQuietFella · 14-06-2017 2:17pm

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

So you expect local business to put money which they may not have into their business just to blend in with the roof ??

What kind of refurbishment you suggest

The council have dictated as to what you can and cant do to the exterior of your premises and what seating will be used for the outside areas

I don't expect them to invest in their premises to suit a roof but I would have
expected some effort by both the council and the premises owners in improving
the look of the area. Compulsory purchase the two houses at the start of SGA
to begin with and demolish them but I'm going around in circles again!

I would demolish the vast majority of this City as that's all it's fit for!
People holding on to premises and doing nothing with them!
Another charity shop in Michael Street I see!

What is Waterford CC doing to attract new business to the City?

aziz · 14-06-2017 2:39pm

[QUOTE=; there's no point in building something that tries to blend in with older architectural styles and materials from different eras - I think the architects call that pastiche. Better to build something bold and modern to really make a statement, and I think they will achieve that aim.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure the architects of the ardree said the same

Max Powers · 14-06-2017 6:59pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

I don't expect them to invest in their premises to suit a roof but I would have
expected some effort by both the council and the premises owners in improving
the look of the area. Compulsory purchase the two houses at the start of SGA
to begin with and demolish them but I'm going around in circles again!

I would demolish the vast majority of this City as that's all it's fit for!
People holding on to premises and doing nothing with them!
Another charity shop in Michael Street I see!

What is Waterford CC doing to attract new business to the City?

Demolish most of city centre...you're dragging that line up again...makes as much sense as build these drumcondra style houses previously mentioned, .a lot of your posts indicate some sort of chip on shoulder vendetta against city council.

Gaspode · 14-06-2017 10:17pm

As an outsiderI think it looks really interesting and I'll be going over to have a look when I'm in Waterford next week.
I know some wont like it and probably never will - When the spire was being built in Dublin, I really liked it from day one whereas most people hated it at first. Now though I think the majority of locals have come to like it, it's just part of the streetscape and they dont really think about it any more.
Once this structure is a few years old it'll be the same for locals.

As for someone claiming that most of Waterford should be demolished - well it will eventually, that's what happens in all cities - pull down the old stuff, build new stuff. Rinse. Repeat. It's been happening in Waterford probably longer than anywhere in Ireland. Just dont expect it all to happen overnight.

mooseknunkle · 14-06-2017 10:38pm

A couple of pics from twitter and a video from instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVSm5mWDr-r/

Road-Hog · 15-06-2017 8:01am

TheQuietFella wrote: »

I don't expect them to invest in their premises to suit a roof but I would have
expected some effort by both the council and the premises owners in improving
the look of the area. Compulsory purchase the two houses at the start of SGA
to begin with and demolish them but I'm going around in circles again!

I would demolish the vast majority of this City as that's all it's fit for!
People holding on to premises and doing nothing with them!
Another charity shop in Michael Street I see!

What is Waterford CC doing to attract new business to the City?

I know this will come across as personal and most likely breach the charter but Your cyber-persona makes you comes across at the archetypal W'ford negative, incapable of dealing with change (apart from demolition works)....whinger....do you really think local authorities have limitless funding or something to allow them to go on a cpo'ing and rebuilding spree as you suggest

BBM77 · 15-06-2017 12:16pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

I don't expect them to invest in their premises to suit a roof but I would have
expected some effort by both the council and the premises owners in improving
the look of the area. Compulsory purchase the two houses at the start of SGA
to begin with and demolish them but I'm going around in circles again!

I would demolish the vast majority of this City as that's all it's fit for!
People holding on to premises and doing nothing with them!
Another charity shop in Michael Street I see!

What is Waterford CC doing to attract new business to the City?

Well they are at least trying things instead of doing nothing and writing a load of Boll**ks on the internet.

longshanks · 15-06-2017 3:13pm

Dunmoreroader wrote: »

Went down for another look this morning and I think it's going to be terrific. Something as big and bold as this is always going to look raw and brash at the beginning but when it's finished and the pubs & restaurants around it put out seating, do themselves up where needed, hang bunting etc, it'll be the dogs boll0x.
Re the Quiet fellas comment about the red brick; there's no point in building something that tries to blend in with older architectural styles and materials from different eras - I think the architects call that pastiche. Better to build something bold and modern to really make a statement, and I think they will achieve that aim. But of course time will tell.
But I say well done to all involved and I'm really looking forward to my first pint of Clonmel's finest in a pint glass full of ice sitting in the shade on a hot summers day outside Geoffs or Heerys listening to some tunes looking up at the reflection of the sun on the icecubes on the roof mirror........aaahhh.......:cool:

Hey Dunmoreroader, you should post more often. It's good to read some positivity in these threads instead of the usual whinging bitches negativity. Good work fella

sillysocks · 16-06-2017 6:13am

Another photo I took last night.... mirrors are progressing....

Max Powers · 16-06-2017 8:49am

Great, fair play to those posting pics...Good to see it moving, looking forward to finish of it next month think.

Luckycharms_74 · 16-06-2017 9:17am

Some more pics from a different perspective I took yesterday. It's taking shape now and lots more light. It will be even better when the lighting is finished

Hope its finished for Spraoi. They will have an outdoor stage on Saturday night of Spraoi from 7-10pm with music from Propellor Palms & Suzan O neill etc

Deiseen · 16-06-2017 9:26am

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Some more pics from a different perspective I took yesterday. It's taking shape now and lots more light. It will be even better when the lighting is finished
Hope its finished for Spraoi. They will have an outdoor stage on Saturday night of Spraoi from 7-10pm with music from Propellor Palms & Suzan O neill etc

Looks sooooo much better with the mirror. Kind of trippy!!!

Max Powers · 16-06-2017 9:37am

Deiseen wrote: »

Looks sooooo much better with the mirror. Kind of trippy!!!

Thought that too

Apple Market Roof/canopy?

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