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London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Exactly like I said.

    Why didnt he blow up ISIS over there for killing all his innocent Muslim brothers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    neverever1 wrote: »
    I'll be angry at the attackers and angry at those who put us in danger.

    & why would we be attacked??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,498 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    neverever1 wrote: »
    See above.

    See what above? Are you running out of justifications for these animals? Seems so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    & why would we be attacked??

    Well Shannon obviously. Also some of these nutters would attack because we're part of 'the West'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    See what above? Are you running out of justifications for these animals? Seems so.

    I'll quote it for you to make it easier.

    "Because they are radicalised idiots. Please stop making me repeat myself."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,498 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    neverever1 wrote: »
    I'll quote it for you to make it easier.

    "Because they are radicalised idiots. Please stop making me repeat myself."

    Religiously radicalised yes? Therefore their motivation is religion. It clearly isn't some misplaced sense of injustice about the deaths of innocents in the ME. If it was they would be fighting the single biggest killers of Muslims in the world....ISIS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Trump_Wall


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Well Shannon obviously. Also some of these nutters would attack because we're part of 'the West'.

    So, in future, we need to consult ISIS when determining our foreign policy? Whatever they want, we deliver - otherwise we'll get bombed.

    To give in is to appease.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Religiously radicalised yes? Therefore their motivation is religion. It clearly isn't some misplaced sense of injustice about the deaths of innocents in the ME. If it was they would be fighting the single biggest killers of Muslims in the world....ISIS.

    There would be no cause for radicalisation without the bombing campaigns. How can people ignore that fact? These groups would still exist but they'd be tiny. It's time people woke up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Because they are radicalised idiots. Please stop making me repeat myself.

    Good! So they're not radicalised by the thousands killed.
    neverever1 wrote: »
    Am no, the main motivation is the thousands killed. These can't be ignored.
    neverever1 wrote: »
    There would be no cause for radicalisation without the bombing campaigns. How can people ignore that fact? These groups would still exist but they'd be tiny. It's time people woke up.

    I hate to be quoting myself...but

    "the GIA in Algeria were radicalised without one bomb falling on Algeria. They were radicalised enough to murder 100 000 (there are higher estimates) people:men, women, infants....."

    A lot of dead people. Hardly "Tiny". They nearly brought Algeria to it's knees.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    Trump_Wall wrote: »
    So, in future, we need to consult ISIS when determining our foreign policy? Whatever they want, we deliver - otherwise we'll get bombed.

    To give in is to appease.

    No, don't support bombing campaigns that kill thousands of innocents. I think that's a good policy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Because they are radicalised idiots. Please stop making me repeat myself.

    Yes, they are. So why are you claiming it is the west's fault that they exist? Is it black people's fault the KKK exist? The other 99.9% of muslims are able to not be terrorists just fine so why are you giving any legitimacy to ISIS's campaign whatsoever


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    ilkhanid wrote: »
    Good! So they're not radicalised by the thousands killed.

    Of course they are. You seriously think they can be radicalised because of some book? They would actually go out and kill themselves and others because a crazy man told them that a book said they had to? Is this what you believe?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Yes, they are. So why are you claiming it is the west's fault that they exist? Is it black people's fault the KKK exist? The other 99.9% of muslims are able to not be terrorists just fine so why are you giving any legitimacy to ISIS's campaign whatsoever

    Did black people bomb white countries? What sort of comparison is that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Of course they are. You seriously think they can be radicalised because of some book? They would actually go out and kill themselves and others because a crazy man told them that a book said they had to? Is this what you believe?

    Crying Allahu Akbar while they go about killing people should really be giving you a hint;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Of course they are. You seriously think they can be radicalised because of some book? They would actually go out and kill themselves and others because a crazy man told them that a book said they had to? Is this what you believe?

    the mist is beginning to clear...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    neverever1 wrote: »
    There would be no cause for radicalisation without the bombing campaigns. How can people ignore that fact? These groups would still exist but they'd be tiny. It's time people woke up.

    Care to give your explanation as to why terrorist attacks in the West are exclsuively carried out by Sunnis. Shia attacks are unknown in recent times.

    You say the West's bombing and wars caused all this... Huge numbers from both groups were killed... well, where are the Shia attacks then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,498 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    neverever1 wrote: »
    There would be no cause for radicalisation without the bombing campaigns. How can people ignore that fact? These groups would still exist but they'd be tiny. It's time people woke up.

    I'll ask again. Why aren't these guys fighting ISIS? They kill more Muslims than any other entity by many factors over. Why not fight the people killing fellow Muslims??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Crying Allahu Akbar while they go about killing people should really be giving you a hint;)

    Religion is used but it's not the root cause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Did black people bomb white countries? What sort of comparison is that?

    My point was that neither terror group had legitimate reasons for forming. Again you are giving legitimacy to ISIS cause


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I'll ask again. Why aren't these guys fighting ISIS? They kill more Muslims than any other entity by many factors over. Why not fight the people killing fellow Muslims??

    only Muslims killed by the West count or something.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    the mist is beginning to clear...

    :D Seriously? People actually believe that?
    Thousand upon thousand of dead Muslims in the Middle East has nothing to with Isis and groups like it growing so big, it's all because of a book.
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Religion is used but it's not the root cause.

    OK so.....
    Terrorists cry Allahu Akbar while killing people
    ISIS come out & say its about religion
    Terrorist get radicalised in Mosques by Imams

    but religion is not the root cause:eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    c_man wrote: »
    Care to give your explanation as to why terrorist attacks in the West are exclsuively carried out by Sunnis. Shia attacks are unknown in recent times.

    You say the West's bombing and wars caused all this... Huge numbers from both groups were killed... well, where are the Shia attacks then?

    Maybe they haven't got the capability or the other side got their hands on superior weaponry somehow from some place....?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I'll ask again. Why aren't these guys fighting ISIS? They kill more Muslims than any other entity by many factors over. Why not fight the people killing fellow Muslims??

    I'll answer again. These guys are radicalised idiots. They've barely set foot in these countries.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    wakka12 wrote: »
    My point was that neither terror group had legitimate reasons for forming. Again you are giving legitimacy to ISIS cause

    No I'm not, I'm just pointing out where they came from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Religion is used but it's not the root cause.

    You're having a laugh. These people are laying their lives down because they believe in their religion so much. They think it's worth it for the afterlife their religion promises.

    Look, I'm a long way from the "deport all Muslims or lock them up" school of thought but you're living in fantasyland if you think religion isn't playing a big part in this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Maybe they haven't got the capability or the other side got their hands on superior weaponry somehow from some place....?

    Capability? Superior weaponry? So Shias in the west, haven't the capability to get a van and mow down some people... Right, gotcha. That definitely explains it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    only Muslims killed by the West count or something.

    No, the attacks in the West are because of Muslims killed by the West.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    neverever1 wrote: »
    :D Seriously? People actually believe that?
    Thousand upon thousand of dead Muslims in the Middle East has nothing to with Isis and groups like it growing so big, it's all because of a book.
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

    OK do you know many Muslims??
    Have you seen Muslims during Ramadan fasting while its scorching outside, not being able to drink water, not being able to swallow their spit all the while having to work.
    I cant see many ( if any ) Irish Catholics doing it


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    OK so.....
    Terrorists cry Allahu Akbar while killing people
    ISIS come out & say its about religion
    Terrorist get radicalised in Mosques by Imams

    but religion is not the root cause:eek:

    No.


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