London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

The_Kew_Tour · 05-06-2017 02:18PM

neverever1 wrote: »

So exactly as I said.

No you were questioning if there even was protests

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-06-2017 02:18PM

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

Roll your eyes all you like but they are not in any way an accurate representation of what you were trying to portray.

A muslim is a Muslim Same as a Christian who believes in creation and thinks the world is only 6000 years old is as much of a Christian as one who believes in evolution and that the earth is billions of years old.

neverever1 · 05-06-2017 02:18PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

ISIS dont claim that at all, why do you think you speak for ISIS and these attackers? Are you involved?

They do.

Will I Am Not · 05-06-2017 02:19PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

They are Muslims wether you like it or not.

If only this would be accepted when talking about the terrorists...

#nothingtodowithislam

testaccount123 · 05-06-2017 02:19PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

They are Muslims wether you like it or not.

Please show one single post of mine where I have either defended or apologised Islamic terrorists when you cannot find one then please withdraw your scurrilous accusation.

Their religion is illegal in many of the countries you idolise, sorry mate you cant have it both ways.

testaccount123 · 05-06-2017 02:21PM

neverever1 wrote: »

They do.

No they dont, you need to go and read what the lads you are defending on here actually believe

Help!!!! · 05-06-2017 02:21PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

A muslim is a Muslim Same as a Christian who believes in creation and thinks the world is only 6000 years old is as much of a Christian as one who believes in evolution and that the earth is billions of years old.

Tell that to Sunni's when they are killing the other sects:rolleyes:

neverever1 · 05-06-2017 02:21PM

gitzy16v wrote: »

I didnt say nothing...I said fcuk all to do with it.

Hundreds of thousands of innocents?
Get a grip the west is fighting ISIS in the ME and if you want the other side of the coin in Syria they are helping ISIS...depends which version of events you like to believe.
My point still stand its got fcuk all to do with bombing the ME and the sooner the likes of you pull your head out of your arse and look at the real reasons of why this is happening,maybe then something can be done about it.

Isis and the like were created a long, long time ago.

Dude89 · 05-06-2017 02:21PM

Anyone just hear that on sky news "That Ireland and Finland have the highest % of Muslim's going to jihad"
That is absolutely shocking I'm not surprised really it's quite obvious they see Ireland as an easy target because we're an absolute joke.

Help!!!! · 05-06-2017 02:22PM

neverever1 wrote: »

They do.

Have you ever read the Quran??

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-06-2017 02:22PM

ligerdub wrote: »

"But the usual "Lock em up/kill em all" brigade arent happy with that they feel every single muslim in the uk should go out and apologise personally for the actions of a few"

so we agree that i never used the words highlighted below and you just threw those in for dramatic effect.

ligerdub wrote: »

All those of Islamic faith? That's the accusation here! Was that said? By more than one person?!

Trump_Wall · 05-06-2017 02:22PM

Also, bear in mind that most of the victims of Islamic terror are Muslims (almost a cliche at this stage). This isn't a question of Muslims versus Western civilization. Rather, it's a question of political Islam versus civilization itself (whether you're Muslim or non-Muslim. After all, you have to be "the right type of Muslim" in order to avoid radical Islamic persecution).

namloc1980 · 05-06-2017 02:23PM

neverever1 wrote: »

I'm showing the reason for the attacks. Some people want us all to believe that a large group of mad men just woke up one day and decided they want to kill everyone. They want us to believe that a century of bombs that have flattened countries has nothing to do with any of this. That it's some crazy book that is causing it all.
That is nonsense. This kind of thing doesn't come from nowhere. We should be angry with anyone who have put us all in danger.

Do you know that the history of Islamic violence goes back longer than a few decades? Mohammed himself spread his faith and the Koran at the tip of a sword and through savage bloodshed. Islam spread fear and death throughout North Africa and the Middle East in the centuries after Mohammed. They invaded Spain and slaughtered Christians there for centuries before being removed by the Spanish kingdoms in the 1500s. This is besides the Ottomans who spread Islam through violence. You have a very rose tinted viee of the history of Islamic violence.

neverever1 · 05-06-2017 02:23PM

Trump_Wall wrote: »

ISIS have repeatedly stated that, even if there were no bombing in the Middle East, they would still exist and seek to destroy our way of life.

Political Islam has waxed and waned over the past 80 years or so; it's not a modern phenomenon. Western foreign policy has often been wrong, opening up power vacuums etc. without any real long-term plan in place.

The reality is, though, that ISIS - and their affiliates - would exist independent of Western foreign policy. Don't take my word for it. Just ask ISIS.

There's a huge difference between these groups existing and the level at which they exist. They would not gain any support without the wests bombing campaign. These attackers in London, Manchester etc could not be radicalised without it. These groups would be tiny.

wakka12 · 05-06-2017 02:24PM

neverever1 wrote: »

Where are the protests? There's a long history of these bombing campaigns by British forces, why haven't the British public demanded that the people responsible be imprisoned?

Probably because everyones more worried about ISIS who are actively and deliberately attempting to slaughter local populations in the area

neverever1 · 05-06-2017 02:24PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

No you were questioning if there even was protests

No I wasn't. That was people questioning if there was Muslim protests.

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-06-2017 02:24PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

Their religion is illegal in many of the countries you idolise, sorry mate you cant have it both ways.

You're losing the plot here chief, Care to explain this next batch of nonsense?

neverever1 · 05-06-2017 02:27PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Have you ever read the Quran??

Oh yes, that's the silly book I was referring to. It's all the fault of that silly book and not a century of bombing campaigns over the Middle East.

testaccount123 · 05-06-2017 02:27PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You're losing the plot here chief, Care to explain this next batch of nonsense?

Im losing the plot. Every time Islamists kill more people in Europe you take it as your cue to get on the internet to defend Islam. A useful idiot for Islamists.

Mod: Banned

Help!!!! · 05-06-2017 02:27PM

neverever1 wrote: »

There's a huge difference between these groups existing and the level at which they exist. They would not gain any support without the wests bombing campaign. These attackers in London, Manchester etc could not be radicalised without it. These groups would be tiny.

Again Islam is a religion of war going back centuries. They are taught from a young age to kill the infidels. The M.E was not the start of the terrorism

Danzy · 05-06-2017 02:28PM

It is an awful pity that so many on the left have destroyed their credibility on this issue, you know it is bad when the Tories are viewed as solid on this, they have a desperate track record as well.

People have seen too many times where the most virulent and militant hate against Jews, Gays, Women, Ahmadi, Shia, and lots of others have been spread and preached and no protests from the UAF, Labour MPs attending segregated meetings !!!!, sharing platforms with people who would be on off the charts far right in Neo Nazi cell.

Being one sided for so long has destroyed credibility.

Trump_Wall · 05-06-2017 02:29PM

neverever1 wrote: »

There's a huge difference between these groups existing and the level at which they exist. They would not gain any support without the wests bombing campaign. These attackers in London, Manchester etc could not be radicalised without it. These groups would be tiny.

So, Saudi and Qatari funding of Wahhabist and Salafist Islam has a negligible impact?

It's one thing opposing Western foreign policy, quite another to hack innocent people on the streets in the hope of going to heaven. That link can only be made by extremist preachers and the above funding. It's the latter we need to condemn. Let's not get so masochistic and blame ourselves for the world's problems.

neverever1 · 05-06-2017 02:29PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Do you know that the history of Islamic violence goes back longer than a few decades? Mohammed himself spread his faith and the Koran at the tip of a sword and through savage bloodshed. Islam spread fear and death throughout North Africa and the Middle East in the centuries after Mohammed. They invaded Spain and slaughtered Christians there for centuries before being removed by the Spanish kingdoms in the 1500s. This is besides the Ottomans who spread Islam through violence. You have a very rose tinted viee of the history of Islamic violence.

I know all that, it has little to do with Europeans attacking Europe though.

Dude89 · 05-06-2017 02:29PM

We're are liberal, PC joke of a country and I worry about
our future security. One of the attackers from Saturday
spent time in Ireland recently no doubt planning
terrorism related as Scotland yard are investigating it.

Really Interested · 05-06-2017 02:29PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You're losing the plot here chief, Care to explain this next batch of nonsense?

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/08/pakistan-ahmadiyya-an-absence-justice-20148616414279536.html

"Since 1974, Ahmadis have been declared "non-Muslim" under Pakistani law, after a constitutional amendment was passed under the government of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto."

"The law imposes three-year jail terms on Ahmadis "who directly or indirectly, poses himself as a Muslim, or calls, or refers to, his faith as Islam, or preaches or propagates his faith, or invites others to accept his faith, by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representations, or in any manner whatsoever outrages the religious feelings of Muslims"."

neverever1 · 05-06-2017 02:29PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Probably because everyones more worried about ISIS who are actively and deliberately attempting to slaughter local populations in the area

Isis, created by America/Britain.

ligerdub · 05-06-2017 02:31PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

so we agree that i never used the words highlighted below and you just threw those in for dramatic effect.

It is what you said, you implied it. You're ridiculous.

take everything · 05-06-2017 02:31PM

Someone else might be able to post the link but a good letter to the independent today from the Imam in Galway calling for Mosques in Ireland and their links to figures abroad to be looked at more closely and if in any way sympathetic to hate/Jihad to be kicked out of here.

Not speaking for him but i'm guessing he's talking about the likes of Clonskeagh and Dr Ali Selim.

Also, yet again Isis claims this attack to be linked to Islam and some of its teaching in their statement.
Yet the average libtard here will insist otherwise.

wakka12 · 05-06-2017 02:31PM

neverever1 wrote: »

Oh yes, that's the silly book I was referring to. It's all the fault of that silly book and not a century of bombing campaigns over the Middle East.

When the terrorists in London shouted this is for allah while hacking innocent people to death does that not make you think they were doing this more so in the name of god than anything else? Would they not have shouted this is for syria (insert other bombed country) while carrying out the attack if it was for the reasons you suggest?

neverever1 · 05-06-2017 02:31PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Again Islam is a religion of war going back centuries. They are taught from a young age to kill the infidels. The M.E was not the start of the terrorism

We can talk about the history of Christianity as well but it has nothing to do with this modern situation. The fact is that if the West had not flattened many Middle Eastern countries for the past century then these groups like Isis would be minuscule and very easy to control.

London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

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