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London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

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  • #1952
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    neverever1 wrote: »
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/more-than-30000-ahmadiyya-muslims-from-across-the-world-meet-in-the-uk-to-reject-isis-and-islamic-a7191306.html

    This didn't stop Britain continuing to bomb innocents in the Middle East.

    Do you not understand when a country rightly or wrongly bombs a country to get rid of a dictator & terrorism??


  • #1953
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Whatever the issue. We have to find an non inflammatory way of discussing it.

    We don't have an issue with extremists here. Our Muslim community is warm and we take few refugees. And it is actually hard to get into Ireland from outside the EU.

    Of course we must take precautions. But speaking in the way some are has little to do with those precautions.

    And in fact will divide us more.

    Integration is the key thing. Don't curse the darkness be the light.

    Others have already answered this,I just want to point out that your claim is in contradiction of the facts. And it contradicts what Dr. Al Qadri has been saying for years. You are in fact helping ''the darkness'' by getting in the way of people who want to shine a light on it.


  • #1954
    Yourself isit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    neverever1 wrote: »
    What are you talking about?

    You asked who opposed the bombing of syria. The British parliament did.

    Not that isis care about the bombing of the Assad regime.


  • #1955
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    threeball wrote: »
    The war was waged. You cant turn back the clock on that. Protesting now does f all good as now they are dealing with the largest and most extreme terrorist theat the world has ever seen. Theres a billion muslims in the world. Theyre very quite about condemning anything if all thet can muster is a march in manchester.

    You are ignoring the fact that Britain/America created the threat!


  • #1956
    [Deleted User]
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    testaccount123 wrote: »
    Dunno if 'terrible' is the word, but it has turned into the sort of Islamic ghetto we are constantly told by people from Sligo or Blackrock we dont have in Ireland. Groups of men in Pakistani style dresses standing around on the streets, women led around in Burkas the odd time you see them outside, shops run by people who dont speak English. Zero integration with the rest of the community. Presumably one mosque is Shia and the other Sunni. We are told that our Islamic population are all doctors, what a laugh.

    Ironically our dysfunctional property market and gentrification are the only things pushing back against Islamification

    And whats wrong with this exactly? I honestly don't understand why people seem to mind foreign nationals standing around


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  • #1957
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    This is a fairly accurate description of South Circular Road

    Im amazed these doctors can all do 16 hour shifts in the hospital while also spending all day at the mosque


  • #1958
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    But people protested!!!!
    You said they didint.

    No, people said that Muslims are not protesting. You're getting confused, I asked where is the British protests every day.


  • #1959
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,769 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Where's their protests? Isn't the lack of protests proof that they support the murder of innocents?

    Sweden provided support to armies that have attacked the Middle East. Developing weapons for them.

    In most big UK cities. They have started since February 2003.

    Last July we had thousand voice their concerns over ME..

    EVENFLOW



  • #1960
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,499 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    neverever1 wrote: »

    Sweden provided support to armies that have attacked the Middle East. Developing weapons for them.

    So has Ireland.


  • #1961
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    threeball wrote: »
    It didnt but at least people let it be known it wasnt done with public consent which is all anyone could do

    Did you read the link?


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  • #1962
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And every other bomb that was planted by them?

    Here's Muslims after the Westminster attack

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-women-stand-solidarity-london-terror-attack-victims-westminster-bridge-khalid-masood-a7651361.html%3Famp

    And after the Manchester attack

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/metro.co.uk/2017/05/27/hundreds-of-muslim-children-march-to-manchester-arena-to-pay-tribute-to-22-victims-6665632/amp/

    But the usual "Lock em up/kill em all" brigade arent happy with that they feel every single muslim in the uk should go out and apologise personally for the actions of a few, these terrorists do not act on behalf of the entire muslim population in the same way the IRA did not act on behalf of the entire Irish population.

    Those women in your first link are Ahmadiyya Muslims. Not your regular Muslim.

    "Described by rights organisations as one of the most relentlessly persecuted communities in Pakistan, the Ahmadiyya have seen their personal and political rights erode steadily over the years under pressure from orthodox Muslim groups."


  • #1963
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    neverever1 wrote: »
    No, people said that Muslims are not protesting. You're getting confused, I asked where is the British protests every day.

    Stop playing dumb....There have been British protests...and well you know it.


  • #1964
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    OK people who say that Islam is not the problem, watch these videos of an Imam explaining what Islam & Muslims are really like. Ok he is based in Australia but the same can apply to Ireland

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRPzkB5mr1U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax_-cN2l8y4


  • #1965
    Yourself isit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    neverever1 wrote: »
    No, people said that Muslims are not protesting. You're getting confused, I asked where is the British protests every day.

    Once again. Britain voted against involvement in the syrian war. It wasn't until isis took over vast areas that the British started bombing isis. Therefore isis was not caused by British involvement in the syrian war as they appeared before the UK got involved.

    If you want people to protest bombing isis - good luck.


  • #1966
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Do you not understand when a country rightly or wrongly bombs a country to get rid of a dictator & terrorism??

    Oh right, the killing of innocents in the Middle East is understandable but the disgusting reprisal attacks are not?


  • #1967
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    If Saddam and the libyan dictator Gadaffi was still there the hippies would be crying for the west to help the citizens you cannot win with the left.


  • #1968
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    Yourself isit wrote: »
    You asked who opposed the bombing of syria. The British parliament did.

    Not that isis care about the bombing of the Assad regime.

    I never mentioned Syria! British bombs in the Middle East have been widespread.


  • #1969
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    So because the Labour Party in Britain decided to kill a million Iraqis in conjunction with America, North Africans are killing people in Sweden and France, countries that were strident in opposition.

    It isn't washing anymore.

    The Iraq war was wrong, Gadaffi should have been helped rather than his enemies helped, yet that would probably have been a bloodier route. Intervention in Syria against Isis saves 50k alone on Sinjar Mountain and probably prevented the entire Middle East from sinking in to war.

    We keep hearing that these people are often British or French, so why do they do this when a country they often have no knowledge of family relation to is bombed.

    Did the Iraq make things worse, certainly.

    Would we still be dealing with an ever growing problem in Europe if it had not happened, certainly. Just a slower escalation.


  • #1970
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,886 ✭✭✭threeball


    neverever1 wrote: »
    You are ignoring the fact that Britain/America created the threat!

    Correction the American and british powers that be created the threat. The average brit wanted nothing to do with it. Of course spain, belgium, germany, sweden etc. are all legitimate targets in your world. Us too i'd I imagine as we didnt join hands to form a ring round shannon


  • #1971
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,499 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Oh right, the killing of innocents in the Middle East is understandable but the disgusting reprisal attacks are not?

    The vast vast majority of innocents killed in the Middle East are being killed by fellow Muslims...the vast majority.


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  • #1972
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    In most big UK cities. They have started since February 2003.

    Last July we had thousand voice their concerns over ME..

    The murder is happening all the time, shouldn't protests be daily? Irregular Muslim protests don't seem to be enough for people.


  • #1973
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    bubblypop wrote: »
    And whats wrong with this exactly? I honestly don't understand why people seem to mind foreign nationals standing around

    Who mentioned nationality? We are talking about religious ideology. If the Brazilian beach volleyball society start hanging around the streets instead I think Ill start to relax a bit.


  • #1974
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    So has Ireland.

    Yes. These people should be disgusted with themselves.


  • #1975
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,769 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    neverever1 wrote: »
    The murder is happening all the time, shouldn't protests be daily? Irregular Muslim protests don't seem to be enough for people.

    Well people do protest every day. Your protesting now.

    People have jobs to go to too.

    EVENFLOW



  • #1976
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    Stop playing dumb....There have been British protests...and well you know it.

    And there has been Muslim protests.


  • #1977
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    neverever1 wrote: »
    The murder is happening all the time, shouldn't protests be daily? Irregular Muslim protests don't seem to be enough for people.

    Dunno where all these doctors are supposed to find the time alright


  • #1978
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    Yourself isit wrote: »
    Once again. Britain voted against involvement in the syrian war. It wasn't until isis took over vast areas that the British started bombing isis. Therefore isis was not caused by British involvement in the syrian war as they appeared before the UK got involved.

    If you want people to protest bombing isis - good luck.

    Again I never mentioned Syria, was that the first time Britain bombed the Middle East?


  • #1979
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Oh right, the killing of innocents in the Middle East is understandable but the disgusting reprisal attacks are not?

    When Saddam & Gaddafi were in power there were loads of people from those countries asking for help, so should the west have left those innocent people to die??


  • #1980
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,872 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    neverever1 wrote: »
    And there has been Muslim protests.

    Yeah but apparently it's the wrong type of Muslim:rolleyes:
    The Fake Sheikh wrote: »
    Those women in your first link are Ahmadiyya Muslims. Not your regular Muslim.

    "Described by rights organisations as one of the most relentlessly persecuted communities in Pakistan, the Ahmadiyya have seen their personal and political rights erode steadily over the years under pressure from orthodox Muslim groups."


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  • #1981
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Again I never mentioned Syria, was that the first time Britain bombed the Middle East?

    Do they offer lessons for being an ISIS apologist somewhere?, you're very good at it


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