London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

Christy42 wrote: »

Curbing immigration will not stop this. The scum will find ways to get in illegally and the people just trying to find a better life will suffer added to this the fact that most terrorists are home grown means it won't stop them. In addition the economy would suffer horribly. The UK has a low birth rate and needs plenty of workers to balance out the number of people retiring every month. Only way to get them is immigration.

Controlled immigration will help. The UK needs to be honest with itself that immigration is something that is deliberately engineered by the host country to achieve a positive result for the host country - not as some sort of global scholarship.

Secondly, its a tangent, but people given the option will always prefer a smaller, greyer population and all the problems that brings than a larger, multicultural population and all the strife, violence and tension that brings. Its not as if open borders immigration is even necessary - youth unemployment is a significant issue across the EU. There is no shortage of labour, and automation means there will be even less demand for unskilled labour in the future. The signature of open borders immigration is heavily armed soldiers and paramilitary police units regularly patrolling the streets of Europe's cities today.

No what is needed (aside from counter terrorism operations which I am presuming are well funded) is to cut off the finance. Everything comes from money. Those that convert more extremists need to eat. Propoganda ads require money and they need weapons to keep up their struggle in the middle east. Any nation supporting them needs to be made a pariah. Instead we seem to just give them more weapons. Cut off the finance and they will fall. Once ISIS stops being a thing. Attacks in their name will stop.

That's not true. This attack was carried out in the UK with 3 knives and a white van. I would imagine the terrorists are nominally British. The propaganda ad were carried by social media.

None of this requires a budget of billions. It just requires bitter, angry fanatics already located in the target countries.

Rekop dog wrote: »

Surprised Canada with its open door policy and huge Muslim community hasn't been targeted yet.

There has been Islamic terrorist attacks in Canada and by Canadians. Its far less common and smaller scale, but its happened.

tigger123 wrote: »

You can't legislate against this kind of attack happening, or do anything to prevent it unfortunately. They took a van and started stabbing people ffs.

It's an unfortunate part of modern life in the West.

Delighted the police took the steps they did to deal with these scumbags.

Capitulation. At least one imminent attack a week is foiled in europe recently. I don't get the mentality of 'nothing can be done'. Something is being done every day by people who would argue otherwise. The fact that multiple attacks are still happening despite this, despite France being in a state of emergeny etc. that should chill anyone as to the scale of this problem. But don't forget, we couldn't possibly do anything different, and don't forget, peanut allergies.

listermint wrote: »

Leaders ?

The leaders are those funding them Saudi Arabia and wealthy Saudi families.

This terrorism isn't actually about religion or god or anything else it's geo politics.

Wealthy individuals whom it assists their goals to have a non cohesive Europe, fear amongst their populace.

There are numerous reasons and whilst the fool on the ground might believe he is doing this for Allah the people who put him their are far more intelligent on what that action does .

Money greed politics.


Result.

The government of Saudi Arabia is funding the Islamic terrorist campaign?

"Nothing can be done!"

As millions enter Europe completely unvetted. It's absurd. Islamic terrorism is a wholly imported problem and the results of Europe's disastrous immigration policies of the past few decades and years.

DeanAustin wrote: »

The government of Saudi Arabia is funding the Islamic terrorist campaign?

The government of Saudi Arabia is funding many terrorists campaigns they are like the US of the 80s and learnt it from the best.
They are also funding opening wahibist mosques across Europe which allow these places to open and a speech of hate to be glued to the more impressionable minds in them.

The Saudis are not friends we take their friendship for the oil but all this comes with it.

This doesn't have religion at its core it's deeper than that.its money and it's geopolitics .

Tomatoheadfred wrote: »

"Nothing can be done!"

Who are you quoting there?

listermint wrote: »

The government of Saudi Arabia is funding many terrorists campaigns they are like the US of the 80s and learnt it from the best.
They are also funding opening wahibist mosques across Europe which allow these places to open and a speech of hate to be glued to the more impressionable minds in them.

The Saudis are not friends we take their friendship for the oil but all this comes with it.

This doesn't have religion at its core it's deeper than that.its money and it's geopolitics .

Is that something you know to be a fact or an assumption on your part?

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Irish nuns are now 2 a penny. There are others taking over.

Other nuns?

Where have you heard this?

Are these new others in the convents or schools

Why haven't I heard about this in the papers

Read all about it read all about it .others taking over

drunkmonkey wrote: »

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

When is enough enough .

The folks in Yemen are probably thinking the same thing. May is finished.

Its Saudi Arabia doing the attacks in Yemen.  OK lets just saw we banned their weapons sales, they would just make homemade weapons like Assad does, and that would make things 100 times worse.

The terrorists with the semtex found the other day are hardly getting a mention.
If they were Islamic rather than Republican terrorists, people would be calling for a state of emergency to be called.

Tomatoheadfred wrote: »

"Nothing can be done!"

As millions enter Europe completely unvetted. It's absurd. Islamic terrorism is a wholly imported problem and the results of Europe's disastrous immigration policies of the past few decades and years.

I don't think any right minded person would disagree with more control over immigration.

However, even if you stopped all immigration, which is not going to happen but for the sake of argument let's say it did, you wouldn't stop these attacks.

No one is saying "nothing can be done". Things can and are being done. But you can't stop every single attack and some of the suggestions on here to "get tough" would just marginalise and radicalise more people.