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Why are we not allowed to defend ourselves

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  • #32
    jamesbere
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    Wear a hi-vis and a hard hat and you'll be fine


  • #33
    I love Sean nos
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    Synthol wrote: »
    You realize they carry a knife anyway?
    The criminals or the Germans?

    This woman definitely does. She's thinking about stabbing that fella right now.

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  • #34
    sbsquarepants
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    What makes a weapon a defence weapon?

    Surely banging someone on the head with a stick is banging someone on the head with a stick. What makes it a defence stick? What stops a wiley old criminal from buying a defence stick and putting it to nefarious use?


  • #35
    I love Sean nos
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    can you give me examples of people in Ireland dying because they didn't have a self defence weapon?
    This woman's children might have been able to defend themselves when she threw them off cliffs.

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  • #36
    Mena
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    I was (still am) licensed to carry a concealed firearm in a certain country. And I was always armed.

    The thing is, it gives you a sense of invincibility. Even minor scuffles (think road rage or some twat pushing you in a pub) where normally, you as a reasonable adult would brush it off and walk away, very quickly can become something else entirely.

    It took me a few years after moving to Ireland to get used to not carrying while going out, however I feel the very rare (very rare) instances where harm could have been prevented by being armed are a small price to pay for not allowing every jackass in the country to carry some sort of weapon, that in the heat of the moment, could be pulled and turn a somewhat tense moment into a life altering event for all concerned.


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  • #37
    ScumLord
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    Synthol wrote: »
    Why can't we just take an example from Germany? They have incredibly low crime rates and allow self defense weapons.
    I was surprised by just how lax German laws are around self defence. Insulting a German is considered assault and they can defend themselves using force.




    When it comes to defending the home, yeah, use weapons. As far as I'm concerned breaking into a humans home should be like walking into a bear's cave. It's not going to end well.

    On the street there are a lot of issues with carrying weapons. Getting drunk being a major one in Ireland. You might carry a weapon all week, then go out of Friday for a few and then acting the tool with the weapon later in the night.

    If you do get attacked on the street you'll probably be outnumbered and there's a good chance you're weapon will be taken and used against you. Weapons are an escalation, being beat up isn't as bad as getting stabbed.


  • #38
    OldNotWIse
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    I see your point OP. But to have a weapon on you, you have to be willing (and able) to use it.

    I was assaulted some time ago on public transport. It was in full daylight, the place was packed and the only people who tried to intervene were two homeless guys. Everyone else sat/stood staring ahead in their fancy suits pretending that a woman wasn't being assaulted beside them. I had no weapon on me, but even if I had, I would not have had a chance to react and use it, it all happened so fast :(


  • #39
    I love Sean nos
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    can you give me examples of people in Ireland dying because they didn't have a self defence weapon?
    Bambi's mother getting shot in a mugging gone wrong just outside Mullingar in the winter of 1982.

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