12 years for ex-shinner

Persephone kindness · 02-06-2017 12:10AM

FTA69 wrote: »

It's simple enough like, they're two different organisations. You can be in one without the other.

You know what you are doing when you join sinn fein.

John_Rambo · 02-06-2017 12:23AM

end of the road wrote: »

it shows nothing of the sort. this is nothing to do with sinn fein. sinn fein are still a very credible party and are the only ones who can now be trusted to run the country.

Sinn Fein can't run a bath.

They certainly don't want to run the country.

They're perfectly aware they can't run a country.

They're perfectly aware they can't be trusted to run a country.

They're giggling away at anyone that thinks they can run a country.

They're very comfortable where they are. Bitching and sniping from the sidelines.

And that is where they will stay.

Annasopra · 02-06-2017 12:35AM

happywithlife wrote: »

Don't know the it's and our's but caught snippets on the news in the car on the way home from work.
What made me think were the quotes from the judge re the demeaning nature ....intimidation....holding someone against their will....using a weapon. .threatening them....I was left thinking they could be describing any rape and yet look at how tlmany rapists get away with lenient sentences.
I sincerely hope the next time a rape victim is giving an impact statement before sentencing they can refer to this judges summary and the same sentence be imposed on them

Yeah. And Sinn Feins history on that with Mairia Cahill and others isn't good either.

flatty · 02-06-2017 12:49AM

dreamers75 wrote: »

Did not read the last 5 pages.

This chap is a scumbag and gets 12 years, there are scumbags with 100+ convictions not getting jail time, WTF is wrong with this country?

I reckon we should label all scumbags with 100+ convictions as shinners...

boom crime problem and reoffending problem solved.....

This may have been mentioned already, but iirc, 12 years is what Larry Murphy received.
The video must have been pretty awful.

end of the road · 02-06-2017 01:48AM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

You know what you are doing when you join sinn fein.

indeed. you are standing up and fighting to make the country better.
sinn fein have nothing but the countries best interests at heart. always have always will.

John_Rambo wrote: »

Sinn Fein can't run a bath.

They certainly don't want to run the country.

They're perfectly aware they can't run a country.

They're perfectly aware they can't be trusted to run a country.

They're giggling away at anyone that thinks they can run a country.

They're very comfortable where they are. Bitching and sniping from the sidelines.

And that is where they will stay.

they can run a country. they will run this country north and south. they are trusted, will be trusted, can be trusted. it's only a matter of time. it's going to happen.

Persephone kindness · 02-06-2017 02:04AM

end of the road wrote: »

sinn fein have nothing but the countries best interests at heart. always have always will.

Why is murder and rape in my best interest? Why is scaring me in my best interest?

tomwaterford · 02-06-2017 02:07AM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

You know what you are doing when you join sinn fein.

Youd do well to tell that to college students up and down the country?

end of the road · 02-06-2017 02:14AM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

Why is murder and rape in my best interest? Why is scaring me in my best interest?

that wasn't sinn fein. that was the ira. the actions of the ira had nothing to do with sinn fein.

Persephone kindness · 02-06-2017 02:25AM

end of the road wrote: »

that wasn't sinn fein. that was the ira. the actions of the ira had nothing to do with sinn fein.

Fifteen of Sinn Féin's 35 MPs, TDs, MEPs, and Assembly members have a history of IRA involvement or have convictions.

Martin McGuinness – Sinn Féin's chief negotiator was twice convicted of IRA membership in the Republic. In 1973, he was arrested in Donegal close to a car filled with 250lbs of explosives and 5,000 rounds of ammunition. He was sentenced to six months. He told the Dublin court: "I am a member of the Derry brigade of Oglaigh na hÉireann and am very, very proud of it."

Notice he was convicted HERE in the republic. Not in the North.

Martin Ferris – Twice convicted of IRA membership,

Barry McElduff – A Queen's University graduate, he was given an 18-month suspended sentence in 1992 for helping in the false imprisonment of a Protestant whom the IRA suspected of being an informer. The victim was interrogated by three masked IRA men in Sinn Féin's Dungannon offices. The court heard that McElduff had saved the victim from execution.

http://politico.ie/archive/who-sinn-f%C3%A9in-was-ira

They ARE the IRA.

Persephone kindness · 02-06-2017 02:27AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Youd do well to tell that to college students up and down the country?

It's not worth my life.

I am not 'Irish enough' and they will gas me when the revolution comes. And then the far right will take a pee on my grave. Happy days. :pac:

...__... · 02-06-2017 02:29AM

He should be charged with membership of an illegal organisation as well
anyone who votes for these wannabe dictators needs there head examined

end of the road · 02-06-2017 02:37AM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

Fifteen of Sinn Féin's 35 MPs, TDs, MEPs, and Assembly members have a history of IRA involvement or have convictions.

Notice he was convicted HERE in the republic. Not in the North.

http://politico.ie/archive/who-sinn-f%C3%A9in-was-ira

They ARE the IRA.

the actions of the ira have nothing to do with sinn fein.

Persephone kindness wrote: »

It's not worth my life.

I am not 'Irish enough' and they will gas me when the revolution comes. And then the far right will take a pee on my grave. Happy days.

that won't happen as the far right will not be allowed to get a grip in this country. there are plenty of people who will insure it.

...__... wrote: »

He should be charged with membership of an illegal organisation as well
anyone who votes for these wannabe dictators needs there head examined

can't be done. it would be against democracy to charge him with something that it would be impossible for him to be guilty of. sinn fein are a legitimate political party and the ira were gone before he would have been old enough to be trusted to have anything to do with it. anyone who would vote for sinn fein will be making a good choice.

Persephone kindness · 02-06-2017 02:42AM

Scary people I don't like them.:( Bad energy. You can sense it. Aura...

Persephone kindness · 02-06-2017 02:44AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

If you honestly believe this....id suggest get professional help and set away frpm the internet for a bit

I think you need to re read the OP.

...__... · 02-06-2017 03:10AM

end of the road wrote: »

the actions of the ira have nothing to do with sinn fein.

that won't happen as the far right will not be allowed to get a grip in this country. there are plenty of people who will insure it.

can't be done. it would be against democracy to charge him with something that it would be impossible for him to be guilty of. sinn fein are a legitimate political party and the ira were gone before he would have been old enough to be trusted to have anything to do with it. anyone who would vote for sinn fein will be making a good choice.

oh I'm sorry but I must be mistaken like the rest of the nation he said he was part of the IRA in fact didn't he admit he was with the head of the Ira or at the very least as an innocent man might interpret representing them and the provisional movement?? given his links with mary lou it seems he was speaking the truth!
Once a shinbot always a shinbot 12 years is 12 years too short we tried to get rid of your type in 1994 seems the normal decent people missed a few anti peace process wanna keep the ballad session going type guys who post the shiner propaganda in my letterbox to walk off a hangover type guys away

...__... · 02-06-2017 03:15AM

I love that saying the actions of the ira have nothing to do with sin fein 1982 is a long time passed wake up and stop trying to play the sensible people of the nation your trying to drag into a war we don't want any part of it and hope you disappear like the innocent victims the ira butchered.

02-06-2017 05:46AM

end of the road wrote: »

that wasn't sinn fein. that was the ira. the actions of the ira had nothing to do with sinn fein.

I'm trying to figure out, are you trying to separate the IRA from SF and the child rape angle, or separate SF from the IRA and the child killing angle?

tomwaterford · 02-06-2017 06:09AM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

I think you need to re read the OP.

It deosnt reference any present sinn fein members??

Tbf this lad deserves 20 years for the stupididy of recording it

Persephone kindness · 02-06-2017 06:24AM

Our politics has hit a new low.

02-06-2017 06:32AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

It deosnt reference any present sinn fein members??

Ach, mud sticks, sure some people still bang on about FF and Bertie Ahern whereas, as you would argue, he's not a current member...

BalcombeSt4 · 02-06-2017 06:40AM

More Free State attacks on Republicans.

Phoebas · 02-06-2017 06:46AM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

More Free State attacks on Republicans.

:pac:
These threads are hilarious - watching the usual handful of SF posters contort themselves.

tomwaterford · 02-06-2017 06:47AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ach, mud sticks, sure some people still bang on about FF and Bertie Ahern whereas, as you would argue, he's not a current member...

This is pretty much what irish politic amounts to....mud slinging matches and an example of why nothing ever gets done/changes here

But it geos down a treat with anyone who the hardest taught they have to do each day is tie their laces

02-06-2017 07:01AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

But it geos down a treat with anyone who the hardest taught they have to do each day is tie their laces

We can all agree that it's good to see we are now merely murdering the English language...

ChikiChiki · 02-06-2017 07:02AM

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

We should be proud to see the Irish justice system at its finest.

Yes we should but unfortunately it fails us all too often. This sentence is severe compared to far worse crimes that have been committed. Where is the consistency.

I think if he was a member of another party it wouldn't be as severe. Sure what happened to a certain ex FG TD for glassing someone?

A conviction and a €750 fine. http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2017/0208/851000-sean-conlan/

Its a political sentencing and it leaves a sour taste to be honest. Before anyone accuses me of being a Shinner I most certainly detest the party.

tomwaterford · 02-06-2017 07:03AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We can all agree that it's good to see we are now merely murdering the English language...

Quality discussion point there :rolleyes:

02-06-2017 07:07AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Quality discussion point there :rolleyes:

Ah, the "hardest taught peepil to do to the shoelace tie taught" was a "discussion point"? Really?

Expand on it so.

tomwaterford · 02-06-2017 07:28AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah, the "hardest taught peepil to do to the shoelace tie taught" was a "discussion point"? Really?

Expand on it so.

Basically large portions of the irish electorate are like trump supporters

Mud slinging and lowest bass debating skills are what appeals to them....

this can be the only logical conlusion on the farce that is debate in the dail??

**pretty low to exagerate my poor spelling in an effort to undermine my point though....#lowbrowtechniques

Annasopra · 02-06-2017 07:28AM

end of the road wrote: »

that wasn't sinn fein. that was the ira. the actions of the ira had nothing to do with sinn fein.

Ah here. That is seriously seriously deluded. In fact its worse than deluded.

ceegee · 02-06-2017 07:32AM

FTA69 wrote: »

He wasn't a serving councillor, he wasn't even a party member,

http://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-jonathan-dowdall-resigns-1937189-Feb2015/

The kidnapping happened January 2015

12 years for ex-shinner

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