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Who's your favourite Bond villain ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Xania Onatop.

    Not particularly interesting as a character, but when goldeneye came out I was in my teens.

    Thus Xania is etched in the old bank. The secret gadget was used.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    There are so many class ones to think of. I am discounting characters such as Mr White, Jaws, Magda and MayDay from things as they ultimately became good. Other characters such as Pussy Galore, Octopussy and Tiffany Case may have been initially on the side of the bad guys who were not telling them they were bad guys but are clearly Bond girls. Here's my top 10 Bond villains in no particular order as I think they all are equally vicious in different ways (not including henchmen):

    1- Max Zorin: insane, cruel, unloyal, egotistical, greedy and devious are just some of the words to describe Zorin. As with so many villains in the series, he hides behind respectability and friends in high places.
    2. Ernst Stavro Blofeld: as seen in You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Diamonds Are Forever. Global terrorist and archrival of Bond. He was directly involved in these 3 mentioned films as the main baddie but he was also the power behind such villains as Red Grant, Dr No and Emilio Largo too. Blofeld could unleash a tonne of villains.
    3. Franz Sanchez: definitely, the most violent and sadistic villain, Sanchez was an evil drug dealer, terrorist and extortionist. His aims were realistic too and his attempt to use terrorism to extort money or amnesty from a government is exactly what ISIS, etc. do. Definitely the most realistic villain.
    4. Auric Goldfinger: While on one hand, he can be the most humorous of villains and can be quite charming but he is ruthless, mean, greedy and was the template for a lot of future Bond villains. No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die is an immortal (forgive the pun!) line.
    5. Kamal Khan: definitely, one of the more sophisticated villains but don't be fooled. He is very devious, does not care for others' lives including his supposed friends and has a powerful dissident Russian ally to do a lot of his dirty work.
    6. Hugo Drax: like Kamal Khan, do not be fooled by his sophisticated ways such as playing Chopin on the piano. Drax is a Max Zorin who hides it and like Zorin has fooled governments for years. He may well have the most evil plot of all.
    7. Karl Stromberg: As for Drax. Similar guy.
    8. Emilio Largo: The Italian Mafia of course were a major part of Ian Fleming's original description of the composition of global terror group SPECTRE. Largo is of course proof of that. Like all mafia types, he is charming one minute but would show no mercy the next.
    9. Dr Kananga/Mr Big: dictator of the fictional Afro-Caribbean country San Monique and American drug dealer are one and the same. He has good lines like Names is for tombstones and shows the viciousness of Largo when it comes to using sharks. He is the only head of state to be a Bond villain unless one considers SPECTRE a country.
    10. Brad Whitaker: I'm sure if you were to pay him a visit, he would be the nicest man one could meet. He comes across as a man who likes to live well and is chatty and brash. He also is obsessed with war and makes his money from it. He probably has killed more people than any other villain with what he sells and what he aids.

    Notable mentions also to Alec Trevelyan (the best of the Bond allies that become enemies), Elliot Carver (as bonkers as Zorin in his own way), Red Grant (almost like a secret agent mirror image working against Bond), Dr No (the first film Bond villaiin who sets the persona in motion) and Electra King (the victim who became the villain). Last but not least, Blofeld's girlfriend Irma Bunt deserves mention as the person who killed Bond's wife and caused him most pain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Fatima Blush.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Scorpion toting gay lads & the little fella


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Alec Trevelyn.

    Most Bond bad lads are over the top cartoonish evil, so having a bad guy that was a doppelganger of Bond himself; like if something bad happened to Bond himself which made him go nuts kind of thing, was a great idea. Same kind of concept for The Man with the Golden Gun and Spectre as well, but those two movies were kind of bum to be fair.

    Goldeneye is bloody class out though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,419 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Jaws.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    May Day - A view to a kill
    The voodoo guy from Live and Let Die


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Grant in From Russia with love.

    AKA Quint from Jaws, or Robert Shaw.

    He was actually quite friendly with Richard Kiel, Jaws in the Bond movies, which is kinda nicely ironic :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    maudgonner wrote: »
    AKA Quint from Jaws, or Robert Shaw.

    He was actually quite friendly with Richard Kiel, Jaws in the Bond movies, which is kinda nicely ironic :)

    ...and Jaws ate him in the end, which is doubly ironic. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    ...and Jaws ate him in the end, which is doubly ironic. :pac:

    That's kinda what I meant :)

    But actually Shaw saved Kiel's life in a way. They used to be drinking buddies, both had issues with alcohol. But when Shaw died prematurely (in Co Mayo, where he lived) it was the wakeup call that made Kiel give up the boozing.

    So Jaws killed Quint, but Quint saved Jaws :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭valoren


    Hank Scorpio.

    He'll sting you with his dreams of power and wealth....beware of....Scorpio!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Alec Trevelyn.

    Most Bond bad lads are over the top cartoonish evil, so having a bad guy that was a doppelganger of Bond himself; like if something bad happened to Bond himself which made him go nuts kind of thing, was a great idea. Same kind of concept for The Man with the Golden Gun and Spectre as well, but those two movies were kind of bum to be fair.

    Goldeneye is bloody class out though.

    Alec Trevelyan aka Yanus aka 006 is a great Bond villain. He is initially Bond's friend and secret service ally. We first see he and Bond in A View To A Kill-style snowy shootout pretitle in Russia set in 1986 pitting them against Ouromov and his men. Ouromov is a typical hardline Soviet and later Russian general who disagrees with official Russian policy akin to Octopussy's Orlov and The Living Daylights' Koskov. As with Blofeld in the Diamonds Are Forever pretitle, we are left to presume Trevelyan/006 is dead. Little is known of what happens him during the the 1986-1995 period but he and Ouromov are friends and allies. We don't know if Trevelyan was always working for and with Ouromov but he clearly has aligned himself with him by 1995 and is also Yanus, the leader of a Russian mafia type outfit allied to Ouromov.

    It was the first time Bond had to deal with an ex-British secret service agent gone bad. Of course, the concept was copied for Skyfall. Goldeneye, which I am actually going to watch this weekend, is a great film and Martin Campbell is a great director who also did another great film in Casino Royale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭unknownlegend


    Mads Mikkelsen as Le Chiffre gets my vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    Dr. No.

    "East, West, just points on a compass, each as stupid as the other"

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Max Zorin - he had the right amount of psychotic/sociopathic tendencies mixed with charm.

    He was like a negative Roger Moore - perfect for this film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Blofeld


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,004 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Another vote for Alec Trevelyan. Their verbal spars are some of the best insights we get into Bond's personality behind the cool, calm exterior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Another vote for Alec Trevelyan. Their verbal spars are some of the best insights we get into Bond's personality behind the cool, calm exterior.
    +1. Even the physical combat was close to an even match. Quite a jarring difference, to say the evil French man in Quantum of Solace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    +1. Even the physical combat was close to an even match. Quite a jarring difference, to say the evil French man in Quantum of Solace.

    Was watching Goldeneye with a bottle of wine last night as an alternative to going down to the pub. It is a great film and Alec Trevelyan is a great villain and the perfect rogue agent type. The Skyfall guy was a copy of him but was not a patch on Tevelyan.

    While I love the Daniel Craig films, I think the bad guys in them are not memorable and don't stand out. Dominic Greene from Quantum of Solace is an example. If it was a Mad Max film, this plot to hoard water would be ideal but it does not work in a Bond film. Apart from the plot, these villains were rather forgettable and nothing out of the ordinary. I feel a Bond villain has to be crazy or eccentric in some way and also have an interesting backstory. The likes of the original Blofeld, Zorin, Trevelyan and Carver are examples of crazed, determined bad guys who tend to be remembered. The 1960s-1990s era from Dr No to Elliot Carver produced the best Bond villains.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Another vote for Alec Trevelyan. Their verbal spars are some of the best insights we get into Bond's personality behind the cool, calm exterior.

    Half of everything is luck James.

    And the other half?

    Fate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Jaws..... The only villain to appear twice.

    Blofeld was in loads. Although he's in more than two so technically you're right when you say that Jaws was the only one to appear twice.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,663 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    While I love the Daniel Craig films, I think the bad guys in them are not memorable and don't stand out. Dominic Greene from Quantum of Solace is an example. If it was a Mad Max film, this plot to hoard water would be ideal but it does not work in a Bond film. Apart from the plot, these villains were rather forgettable and nothing out of the ordinary. I feel a Bond villain has to be crazy or eccentric in some way and also have an interesting backstory. The likes of the original Blofeld, Zorin, Trevelyan and Carver are examples of crazed, determined bad guys who tend to be remembered. The 1960s-1990s era from Dr No to Elliot Carver produced the best Bond villains.
    Bolivia has half the worlds lithium. It's the new oil. Needed for everything from mobile phones to cars. Far more important than local water.

    And besides a proper Bond villain would try to corner the market by blowing up Silicon Valley or Fort Knox or the oil wells of the Middle East or Istanbul or starting a war between China and the UK

    But the two tons of drugs in Live And Let Die looks like Dr Evil asking for a ransom. But it was a fun film and he had a monorail :cool:
    In 2014, 7,554 tons of raw opium were produced worldwide, including 6,400 tons in US-occupied Afghanistan and 173 tons from Mexico and Colombia.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Surprised to see Zorin being mention so much, though Walken was great in the film, a lot of people seem to rate it as one of the worst bond films for some reason.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Grayson wrote: »
    Blofeld was in loads. Although he's in more than two so technically you're right when you say that Jaws was the only one to appear twice.

    He was portrayed by different actors though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Pizzle


    Surprised to see Zorin being mention so much, though Walken was great in the film, a lot of people seem to rate it as one of the worst bond films for some reason.

    I've probably seen this more than any other Bond film, but can never quite but my finger on why I like it so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Scaramanga.

    Classy. Assassin. Golden Gun. Christopher Lee.

    Scaramanga - A duel between titans. My golden gun against your Walther PPK. Each of us with a 50-50 chance.
    Bond - Six bullets to your one?
    Scaramanga - I only need one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭MillField


    These two creeps from Diamonds are Forever, Mr Wint and Mr Kidd.

    "If at first you don't succeed, Mr. Kidd.."

    "Try, try again, Mr. Wint."

    diamonds-are-forever-bruce-glover-putter-smith.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Pizzle wrote: »
    I've probably seen this more than any other Bond film, but can never quite but my finger on why I like it so much.

    I love the theme for it..



    Starts at 1.03


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Surprised to see Zorin being mention so much, though Walken was great in the film, a lot of people seem to rate it as one of the worst bond films for some reason.

    A View To A Kill is one of the many underrated Bond films that exist. A lot of the criticism would be about Roger Moore being 'too old' and also that Roger Moore said it was his least favourite. It is a great film I think with lots of good action, the best pretitle sequence as of then and arguably the best villain of all in Zorin.
    Pizzle wrote: »
    I've probably seen this more than any other Bond film, but can never quite but my finger on why I like it so much.

    I think that a lot of the Bond films of this time like this need to be and are being re-evaluated. For the critics, it is the films like Skyfall that have attracted their praise. While Skyfall is good, not many seem to realise that the villain is a direct copy of Alec Trevelyan and that there is no major world domination plan and the like.

    As said, A View To A Kill is entertaining and has good action and a good villain. It has all the elements the people came to expect from a Bond film. I'd like to see a return to this sort of a film with a real villain.

    Watched Tomorrow Never Dies last night and it is once again another totally underrated film with a great villain. Like Zorin, Elliot Carver is insane and is arguably the last of the classic Bond villains.


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