Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Degag · 27-05-2017 12:51AM

Django99 wrote: »

Nobody from either sport should care about the outcome, and fans shouldn't either. It's like when Ali fought the wrestler, it was just for show. That was such a disappointment I would have thought people would be more sceptical of McGregor trying to box Mayweather to be honest.

It won't matter what happens on the night in the slightest though, because the money will have been agreed long before. Whether anyone thinks that this is right or wrong, at least we should realise that it's not about the sports at all.

I agree with the vast majority of your post however i do think that if Mayweather loses, it will tarnish his legacy to some degree. He will go down as 49-1 regardless of whether it's a fully sanctioned fight or not.

Mcgregor, unless he is totally embarrassed, will be fine. Indeed if he holds his own, can only do himself the world of favours.

He is 50/1 to win in the first round which is tempting cause you would imagine that if he is going to beat Floyd, it has to be early.

EagererBeaver · 27-05-2017 01:09AM

There is literally no downside to the whole thing for McGregor. He gets to make an absolute fortune and whether he gets knocked out in 13 seconds or beaten up for 36 minutes, he is a 0-0 boxer going up against the best of the last 25/30 years.

Nobody expects anything other than an absolute Mayweather shut out, so there's no way he can fail to meet expectations.

Tigger · 27-05-2017 01:11AM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

There is literally no downside to the whole thing for McGregor. He gets to make an absolute fortune and whether he gets knocked out in 13 seconds or beaten up for 36 minutes, he is a 0-0 boxer going up against the best of the last 25/30 years.

Nobody expects anything other than an absolute Mayweather shut out, so there's no way he can fail to meet expectations.

ah no
hes the best of his time but hes not the best of the last 25 years

wonderfullife · 27-05-2017 01:52AM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

There is literally no downside to the whole thing for McGregor.

Conor has been hit cleanly how many times in his career? I mean any punch that rocked him and/or landed flush?

It can be counted on one hand.

It's very possible that Floyd hits him more in this fight than Conor has been hit in his combined career to date.

There's a huge downside to this for Conor - he might get beaten to a pulp and sustain damage that could keep him out of fighting for 6 months or a year or worse..... Heaven forbid but bad stuff can happen in combat sports.

I can't believe people think there's no risk in this for Conor when there's clearly a huge risk. Floyd might not have hands of stone but there's a very real danger that he hurts Conor badly.

If after the fight we are sat here saying "Jesus Conor has some chin" then it means he just got beaten the fook out of for 36 minutes.

That's a huge risk to take regardless of how many millions he makes.

EagererBeaver · 27-05-2017 02:19AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Conor has been hit cleanly how many times in his career? I mean any punch that rocked him and/or landed flush?

It can be counted on one hand.

It's very possible that Floyd hits him more in this fight than Conor has been hit in his combined career to date.

There's a huge downside to this for Conor - he might get beaten to a pulp and sustain damage that could keep him out of fighting for 6 months or a year or worse..... Heaven forbid but bad stuff can happen in combat sports.

I can't believe people think there's no risk in this for Conor when there's clearly a huge risk. Floyd might not have hands of stone but there's a very real danger that he hurts Conor badly.

If after the fight we are sat here saying "Jesus Conor has some chin" then it means he just got beaten the fook out of for 36 minutes.

That's a huge risk to take regardless of how many millions he makes.

When I say "no downside", I mean in terms of good legitimacy as a fighter not being impacted. It won't be. He simply points to the fact he's a rookie against someone as good as Floyd and then spouts some **** about "win or learn". He either simply resumes his MMA career untarnished or retires on his vast hoard of cash.

As for Floyd being one of the best over the last 25/30 years, who runs him close? The only two I would consider (given the Pacquiao) result are Jones and Pernell Whittaker. Jones could have been the best ever but has ruined his legacy and I think Floyd is right up there with Sweet Pea.

EDIT: Chavez maybe too, but Whitaker outclassed him so I excluded him.

wonderfullife · 27-05-2017 03:41AM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

When I say "no downside", I mean in terms of good legitimacy as a fighter not being impacted. It won't be. He simply points to the fact he's a rookie against someone as good as Floyd and then spouts some **** about "win or learn". He either simply resumes his MMA career untarnished or retires on his vast hoard of cash.

OR Floyd puts him in a hospital or a coma or who the hell knows.

Sure, the risk to his health is present in MMA too but at least MMA is a sport he's a multiple world champion in and less likely to take a sustained 25 minute beating by anybody.

I don't think it's fair on the one hand for people to say "Floyd will destroy him" and then on the other hand not recognize what a huge risk Conor is taking with his health if he does get absolutely demolished.

I don't like the way his detractors seem to cover both sides of the coin. If people believe Floyd will batter him, then it's only fair to highlight the risk Conor's taking in getting in the ring with him.

It's easy to say he fights for the money but he's never backed down from any of the challenges.... Mendes short notice, Aldo, Diaz short notice, Alvarez, now the biggest risk to his health possible - Mayweather.

If Conor is destined to lose, I'd much prefer he was KO'd in the 1st minute than beaten up for 36 minutes.

Too Tough To Die · 27-05-2017 03:52AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

OR Floyd puts him in a hospital or a coma or who the hell knows.

Sure, the risk to his health is present in MMA too but at least MMA is a sport he's a multiple world champion in and less likely to take a sustained 25 minute beating by anybody.

I don't think it's fair on the one hand for people to say "Floyd will destroy him" and then on the other hand not recognize what a huge risk Conor is taking with his health if he does get absolutely demolished.

I don't like the way his detractors seem to cover both sides of the coin. If people believe Floyd will batter him, then it's only fair to highlight the risk Conor's taking in getting in the ring with him.

It's easy to say he fights for the money but he's never backed down from any of the challenges.... Mendes short notice, Aldo, Diaz short notice, Alvarez, now the biggest risk to his health possible - Mayweather.

If Conor is destined to lose, I'd much prefer he was KO'd in the 1st minute than beaten up for 36 minutes.

Floyd has brittle hands, he will not be putting him in a coma, lol. Relax.

wonderfullife · 27-05-2017 04:34AM

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Floyd has brittle hands, he will not be putting him in a coma, lol. Relax.

Either Conor is hopelessly outclassed as a novice and facing a 36-minute beat-down or he isn't? Brittle hands or not, 12 rounds of being punched in the face by an excellent boxer is far riskier than an MMA fight in his own sport where he very rarely gets hit clean.

If people want to say he'll be destroyed by Floyd, that's fine and I won't argue - but acknowledge there's a huge potential downside and risk involved in the fight from a health and career perspective.

Jamiekelly · 27-05-2017 04:55AM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Hilarious I'm sure. McGregor's trash talk got very stale very quickly.

Jesus, everytime I see your name on this thread I feel depressed. You must be fun at parties :pac:

spix · 27-05-2017 05:52AM

Mcgregor going crazy on IG with posts related to his '188' boat. Googled it, he was claiming 188 euro social welfare, mcgregors reach is 188cm.... wtf

EagererBeaver · 27-05-2017 06:40AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

I don't think it's fair on the one hand for people to say "Floyd will destroy him" and then on the other hand not recognize what a huge risk Conor is taking with his health if he does get absolutely demolished.

I don't like the way his detractors seem to cover both sides of the coin. If people believe Floyd will batter him, then it's only fair to highlight the risk Conor's taking in getting in the ring with him.

This isn't anything to do with anyone being a detractor ffs. When people say Floyd is going to batter him, they don't mean he's going to take out a 2x4 and crack him over the head repeatedly with it. They're talking about him being completely outclassed as a boxer for whatever the duration. It's not a street fight, it's a cash cow exhibition under the guise of a sporting contest, that takes place with particular parameters and a specific ruleset. Some of these are designed to protect the fighter. He's taking a risk in the extent that he is getting in the ring against a vastly superior and more experienced opponent. There's a referee who can stop the fight. His corner can stop the fight. Of course accidents happen and boxing has seen its fair share of tragedy over the years, but beyond that, there's no more a "huge risk" than any other fight.

Don't try and paint this as some sort of noble effort where he's going out there risking life and limb.

dulux99 · 27-05-2017 08:15AM

I dont agree with the assessment that conor has nothing to lose. He has plenty to lose. The whole world will watch this fight and a huge percentage of the audience will be watching mcgregor fight for the first time, and given the talk that he'll no doubt talk, people will expect him to put up a good fight. What they will see is going to be an embarrassing affair between a debutant novice and an absolute expert at his craft. People will laugh at how poorly Conor does.

EagererBeaver · 27-05-2017 09:55AM

dulux99 wrote: »

I dont agree with the assessment that conor has nothing to lose. He has plenty to lose. The whole world will watch this fight and a huge percentage of the audience will be watching mcgregor fight for the first time, and given the talk that he'll no doubt talk, people will expect him to put up a good fight. What they will see is going to be an embarrassing affair between a debutant novice and an absolute expert at his craft. People will laugh at how poorly Conor does.

That's the whole point though in my view - this is precisely what people expect to see, so there'll be no underwhelming feeling.

dulux99 · 27-05-2017 10:34AM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

That's the whole point though in my view - this is precisely what people expect to see, so there'll be no underwhelming feeling.

For anyone even slightly in the know, yes, that is the case. If this fight gets shown on Sky it will be opened up to a whole new audience, it'll be a whole new ballgame. You will have people who've never seen an MMA fight before, watching sky sports news and the countdown shows, expecting it to be somewhat compelling. Conor will keep saying about how he's going to KO Floyd, and when conor speaks he is very convincing.

For anyone with event a small interest in combat sports, it won't be a surprise. I wrote earlier in the thread how Hatton v Mayweather did 1.3m buys in the UK + Ireland. At the time, literally everyone I knew was intrigued in the fight, most of whom had never seen a Hatton fight before, due to the huge push sky gave it. This fight will get the same treatment and Conors first exposure to a huge new audience is going to be an embarrassing one. He will look like a fraud.

Ultimate Seduction · 27-05-2017 10:49AM

I seriously can't wait for Conor to pull the Mic off Kellerman after Floyd is slept, "Doubt me now mother****ers!!"

It would be the greatest moment in the history of boxing and mma if Conor knocks Floyd out. How can you not be exited for that, as slim as his chances are..

dulux99 · 27-05-2017 11:08AM

wrote:

"Ultimate Seduction;103636048". How can you not be exited for that, as slim as his chances are..

For the same reason that I won't be on the edge of my seat to see the lotion results tonight, despite owning a ticket.

Swashbuckler · 27-05-2017 11:30AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote:

It would be the greatest moment in the history of boxing and mma if Conor knocks Floyd out. How can you not be exited for that, as slim as his chances are..

Because all this time wasted on this farce of a "boxing match" is time McGregor spends away from the cage. His MMA fights are a spectacle and this Mayweather crap is cheating us out of seeing him in the cage. There is zero chance he KOs Floyd. Nothing about this saga is exciting.

Burial. · 27-05-2017 11:39AM

How is it good for any sport if some loud mouth casual comes in and luck boxes his way to victory against one of the all time greats? Would it have been good if James Toney KO'd Randy those years ago? It would be tragic. Randy taught him a lesson, and rightly so. It's like the Olympic ping pong champion coming over and beating Roger Federer at Wimbledon. Absolutely embarrassing. If this fight materialises it's a huge embarrassment, and a truly dominant beat down is the only thing that will save a little face.

EagererBeaver · 27-05-2017 11:50AM

Burial. wrote: »

How is it good for any sport if some loud mouth casual comes in and luck boxes his way to victory against one of the all time greats? Would it have been good if James Toney KO'd Randy those years ago? It would be tragic. Randy taught him a lesson, and rightly so. It's like the Olympic ping pong champion coming over and beating Roger Federer at Wimbledon. Absolutely embarrassing. If this fight materialises it's a huge embarrassment, and a truly dominant beat down is the only thing that will save a little face.

Alright there Paulie Malignaggi.

Gamebred · 27-05-2017 02:49PM

http://www.thejournal.ie/jot-ski-water-safety-3412123-May2017/

I see a certain double champ made the papers today.

wonderfullife · 27-05-2017 03:32PM

Burial. wrote: »

How is it good for any sport if some loud mouth casual comes in and luck boxes his way to victory against one of the all time greats? Would it have been good if James Toney KO'd Randy those years ago? It would be tragic.

Brock Lesnar did pretty much exactly that - Came in from a different sport and became UFC champion.

It wasn't tragic.

It equally wouldn't be tragic if Anthony Joshua was a naturally amazing grappler and came in to the UFC and started destroying people.

People keep going on about Federer with analogies - If Federer was just naturally amazing at badminton and went straight over and beat the world champion, it says very little about badminton and a lot about how brilliant Roger is.

If Conor KO's Floyd or WORSE - Conor beats Floyd on points - it should speak to how brilliant Conor is.

All things being equal, it won't go down like that. The odds suggest Floyd will comfortably dispatch him.

Ultimate Seduction · 27-05-2017 04:51PM

wonderfullife wrote:

If Conor KO's Floyd or WORSE - Conor beats Floyd on points - it should speak to how brilliant Conor is.

But it won't, you see already people are saying he will "luck box" (never heard that one) or catch him with a fluke shot. I'm sure we'd get the "but Floyd is old and retired" too.

Mellor · 27-05-2017 05:18PM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

But it won't, you see already people are saying he will "luck box" (never heard that one) or catch him with a fluke shot. I'm sure we'd get the "but Floyd is old and retired" too.

I'll be too drunk on salty tears to give a shit what people are saying tbh

LastLagoon · 27-05-2017 05:37PM

Gamebred wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/jot-ski-water-safety-3412123-May2017/

I see a certain double champ made the papers today.

What a bell end

raze_them_all_ · 27-05-2017 05:40PM

LastLagoon wrote: »

What a bell end

happens at every beach over the country, never makes news anywhere else it's only there cos of who he is.

And I'm not a big fan of his in anyway but it's a lazy piece to sell ****e purely off his name

zuutroy · 27-05-2017 05:44PM

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

happens at every beach over the country, never makes news anywhere else it's only there cos of who he is.

And I'm not a big fan of his in anyway but it's a lazy piece to sell ****e purely off his name

His name isn't mentioned.

Gamebred · 27-05-2017 05:53PM

zuutroy wrote: »

His name isn't mentioned.

One of the other rags will soon, they have reports up if one of his sisters as much as get a haircut he's a page filler for the rags now.

LastLagoon · 27-05-2017 05:58PM

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

happens at every beach over the country, never makes news anywhere else it's only there cos of who he is.

And when it happens at other beaches it's usually attention seeking belle ends also.
We have a big coastline,no excuse for ending up around a swimming area with these yokes,lethal in the wrong hands

sonofenoch · 27-05-2017 09:11PM

Can we have a show of hands, those of you saying he'll get destroyed by Mayweather ......how many had him getting beat against Alvarez and probably every other fight going back to Mendez (or further) ......I know this is somewhat different but it's also somewhat the same

CatFromHue · 27-05-2017 09:15PM

No, it's completely different

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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