Serial litigant gets 40k for chip slip

endacl · 20-05-2017 12:35AM

andekwarhola wrote: »

I'm astounded that any chip in her immediate vicinity remained uneaten long enough for her to slip on.

You should probably delete that before she spots it and sues for emotional distress. If she got the same judge she'd probably win...

:rolleyes:

Atlantic Dawn · 20-05-2017 12:35AM

Each week we are seeing crazy claims like this in the media, it's only encouraging new claims from people who will classify any fall or slip as a cash cow.

Liam McPoyle · 20-05-2017 12:39AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

There is a steady stream of newspaper stories reporting these crazy payouts, this either wasn't happening 15 years ago or it wasn't being reported.

It was happening, there has always been chancers but with the proliferation of internet usage people are imo much more likely to make a claim because it's pretty much a risk free endeavour.

If you Google about having any kind of an accident you are met with injurylawyers4u ads.

Studies in the UK argue that the rise in the "no win no fee" legal firms has directly impacted people's willingness to seek compensation for most anything.

I've no issues with people claiming when genuine injuries occur. Neither do insurers, that is afterall why insurance exists.

If someone misses time from work as a result of an injury then they should be reimbursed, likewise for medical expenses and what not.

But paying someone €40k for something like this is just obscene.

Ultimately it's a matter of personal accountability, there are two types of people imo, those that are perfectly happy to defraud an insurer and those that have actual moral fibre.

Insurance fraud is no different from stealing a handful of cash from a till but until real penalties are put in place for those that are found to be making false claims then nothing will change.

please helpThank YOU · 20-05-2017 12:42AM

40k is not a lot of money today . This Lady could have got a lot more than just 40k from the jurors. if this case was in front of a Jury in a higher court and if she was working she may have got 80k.

TallGlass · 20-05-2017 12:43AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Each week we are seeing crazy claims like this in the media, it's only encouraging new claims from people who will classify any fall or slip as a cash cow.

The way I see it, if I slip I am going for gold at this stage, the amount I am paying for insurance for these clowns, as they say if you can't beat them join them.

As for this, whats the solution? Suspended rubber floors in public places, these slips are getting out of control.

Maybe government legislation to start limiting claim amounts to 500/1000€ unless in extreme cases where someone is left without a body part or without literally the ability to use said body part.

TallGlass · 20-05-2017 12:47AM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

40k is not a lot of money today . This Lady could have got a lot more than just 40k from the jurors. if this case was in front of a Jury in a higher court and if she was working she may have got 80k.

Sounds to me like this is her job, could have sworn I read she had a few car insurance claims, along with the Lidl claim and now this, not a bad little earner, after tax working in my own job I wouldn't come out with near 40K, tax free.

Now in the UK, this women would be under investigation, in Ireland we continue to reward her.

Beyondgone · 20-05-2017 12:48AM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

40k is not a lot of money today . This Lady could have got a lot more than just 40k from the jurors. if this case was in front of a Jury in a higher court and if she was working she may have got 80k.

Go try earn it in one lump. Report back. Trips/slips excluded.

Surreptitious · 20-05-2017 12:48AM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

40k is not a lot of money today . This Lady could have got a lot more than just 40k from the jurors. if this case was in front of a Jury in a higher court and if she was working she may have got 80k.

40k is a lot of money. You could hardly say it's not. Think about how many hours you'd have to work to make that much money while she got it for nothing.

Liam McPoyle · 20-05-2017 12:49AM

allthedoyles wrote: »

If the insurance company had agreed settlement out of court with the Injuries Board the award would have been 14,800e .

Going to court cost them 25k extra .

How do you know the insurer didn't try to settle out of court?

Alot of the claims I see end up in court because the claimant / their solicitor reject the IB recommendation as there are juicier rewards to be gotten from taking it to court.

Maybe they thought they had a good chance of defending the case which is why it ended up in court?

Insurers are damned if they try and settle out of court because people say they should try and defend the claims and they are damned if they try and defend and end up paying more by taking the cases to court.

It's a no win situation.

TallGlass · 20-05-2017 12:52AM

allthedoyles wrote: »

If the insurance company had agreed settlement out of court with the Injuries Board the award would have been 14,800e .

Going to court cost them 25k extra .

The bookies would have but odds on her losing this.

When you are walking, you look where you are going and what your walking on.

What next? People walking off cliffs then putting in a claim, cause there was no warning of a cliff.

The clue for the women is, she's in a restaurant, you look on the floor for food.

We are really seriously reaching the situation when we are going to have to become members of places just to enter them to sign away liability by entering the premises or either having to sign something to enter a shop.

Surreptitious · 20-05-2017 12:56AM

I fell in a nightclub once and I was not sober either. I lost a part of my foot because of it and had various infections afterwards. It actually was due to the fact the steps were wet and steel. I could have lived off that for years but I wouldn't have the audacity to even think about it. I can't stand people trying to squeeze money out of stupid situations. How many fkicng times have chips been all over the gaff in chippers with people maybe slipping on them? It takes someone really bad to take action on it. She already claimed 10 grand from Lidl and oh no, that wasn't enough she saw her opportunity and went for it.

Beyondgone · 20-05-2017 12:58AM

TallGlass wrote: »

The bookies would have but odds on her losing this.

When you are walking, you look where you are going and what your walking on.

What next? People walking off cliffs then putting in a claim, cause there was no warning of a cliff.

The clue for the women is, she's in a restaurant, you look on the floor for food.

We are really seriously reaching the situation when we are going to have to become members of places just to enter them to sign away liability by entering the premises or either having to sign something to enter a shop.

As our law stands, Yes. Mad as that is.

TallGlass · 20-05-2017 12:59AM

Then let's not forget, that lad recently, the lad on Voice of Ireland, still getting a payout, yet completely been found out that he was lying threw his teeth.

You literally cannot lose if you put in a claim.

Judges in Ireland have lost there minds, or are making a complete mockery of how bad our laws are and instead of trying to fix the bad law, they keep on using it.

I'm convinced at this stage, these judges don't even live in Ireland and instead are flying into Ireland when they are due to work. No other reasonable explanation can explain it, these people seriously cannot live amongst us or don't leave there houses, one or the other really.

TallGlass · 20-05-2017 01:01AM

Surreptitious wrote: »

I fell in a nightclub once and I was not sober either. I lost a part of my foot because of it and had various infections afterwards. It actually was due to the fact the steps were wet and steel. I could have lived off that for years but I wouldn't have the audacity to even think about it. I can't stand people trying to squeeze money out of stupid situations. How many fkicng times have chips been all over the gaff in chippers with people maybe slipping on them? It takes someone really bad to take action on it. She already claimed 10 grand from Lidl and oh no, that wasn't enough she saw her opportunity and went for it.

Now, this is a claim that I wouldn't have problem with. You literally lost part of your foot. I think most people would agree with this.

Surreptitious · 20-05-2017 01:05AM

TallGlass wrote: »

Now, this is a claim that I wouldn't have problem with. You literally lost part of your foot. I think most people would agree with this.

I wasn't sober when it happened so I don't even think of doing anything about it. I'm sorry now though reading about these stupid claims about not being able to carry shopping. I was working full time too not some scrounger off the state.

TallGlass · 20-05-2017 01:11AM

allthedoyles wrote: »

The judge is sending out the correct message ........Let the proper authorities (Injuries Board) decide the case ...........or come to the High Court and pay double .

Ah that's okay so. Judge doesn't want to there job then so. How dare someone want there case judged by you guessed it a judge.

I really need to look at moving the phek out of this place.

listermint · 20-05-2017 01:19AM

The problem is with the judiciary here. It lies solely at their door the laws in relation to this is left far to open for interpretation and the judges are taking advantage of that for what end I don't know.

It's starkingly clear that these guys are both out of touch and in a bubble in equal measure.

This has to be tackled via legislation change and the onus is on the government to do so.

There seems to be no reasonably personal responsibility taking into place and it differs depending on the judge

McCrack · 20-05-2017 01:25AM

Reading through this thread...the usual witchhunt ****e and some comments on this womans appearance too.

I expect nothing less from this forum.

2forjoy · 20-05-2017 01:25AM

What I find unusual in this case is that the Judge awards 35k for previous pain and suffering and 5k for future P & S. Its usually the other way around .

Surreptitious · 20-05-2017 01:27AM

Beyondgone wrote: »

I got badly injured at work - I wasn't wearing a hard hat(I was suppose to, under the letter of the law ) so I kinda shrugged and decided it was my own dumb fault(it wasn't). My son fell over a contractors extension lead in Tesco and split his head open - he still has the scar. He bled like a pig. The Tesco staff were hugely dismissive when we asked for help. We trogged off to A&E and hoped son would look where he was walking a bit better in the future...mainly as we aren't brass necked "It's someone else's fault scummers". Probably more fool us. Being decent gets very little thanks.

Too right. It's all to to with the mind set of what you can get for nothing these days. It always seems to be women too making these claims (I'm female) and I just don't get how someone who already was in a car accident and slipped and who obviously had prior injury could get away with this. Anyone as old as me will remember the old clubs the whole place soaked in booze and sweat people spilling drinks and then heading to some half assed chipper with the place crowded and everyone just getting on with things. People fall, it happens and no matter how clean a place is, a kid could very easily drop one chip meaninglessly and you just have to be careful. The way things are going now in snowflake generation we'll have to watch everything around us.

Surreptitious · 20-05-2017 01:33AM

McCrack wrote: »

Reading through this thread...the usual witchhunt ****e and some comments on this womans appearance too.

I expect nothing less from this forum.

The comment about her appearance was wrong but are you justifying someone sucking the country dry the way she is? Can't carry her shopping? Has she ever heard of delivery?

McCrack · 20-05-2017 01:35AM

Beyondgone wrote: »

I got badly injured at work - I wasn't wearing a hard hat(I was suppose to, under the letter of the law ) so I kinda shrugged and decided it was my own dumb fault(it wasn't). My son fell over a contractors extension lead in Tesco and split his head open - he still has the scar. He bled like a pig. The Tesco staff were hugely dismissive when we asked for help. We trogged off to A&E and hoped son would look where he was walking a bit better in the future...mainly as we aren't brass necked "It's someone else's fault scummers". Probably more fool us. Being decent gets very little thanks.

Your choice not to take a claim for what would appear to have been negligence on your employers part and tesco in the case of your son..negligence which caused injury.

I dont really get why you are telling us this, do you want kudos for deciding not to sue?

Santan · 20-05-2017 01:36AM

worked as a barman in a club a while ago, four or five guys and girls went out a fire exit, which was still indoors smoking, as the smoking area was on the other side so was too far away, anyway one of the guys started running up and down the fire escape while on the level above dropped his bottle of beer and it hit a girl on the head. She was given first aid by the head of security, as one of the door men happened to come across them. No blood just a small bump on the head. 35K in court and the owner blamed us in the bar as we didnt see the group go out the fire exit during a crazy busy night. We were pissed off with the owner at the time, but looking back i guess he was just venting at someone

McCrack · 20-05-2017 01:38AM

Surreptitious wrote: »

The comment about her appearance was wrong but are you justifying someone sucking the country dry the way she is? Can't carry her shopping? Has she ever heard of delivery?

Sucking country dry? Really?

She was caused to fall and suffer an injury, an injury you have no idea about because you are not privy to her or her medical reports.

allthedoyles · 20-05-2017 01:39AM

McCrack wrote: »

Your choice not to take a claim for what would appear to have been negligence on your employers part and tesco in the case of your son..negligence which caused injury.

I dont really get why you are telling us this, do you want kudos for deciding not to sue?

If your son was under 18 , then he can claim off you because you did'nt claim for him

Atlantic Dawn · 20-05-2017 01:39AM

I'd love to know the date she got the tatoo on her left leg down near her ankle.

She said her ankle injury cleared up within eight weeks but she was on anti-inflammatories for three months for her knee.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/unlucky-woman-who-slipped-on-chip-in-dublin-shopping-centre-awarded-40k-35734522.html

please helpThank YOU · 20-05-2017 01:41AM

Surreptitious wrote: »

40k is a lot of money. You could hardly say it's not. Think about how many hours you'd have to work to make that much money while she got it for nothing.

The Lady was injured through negligence are you Sir/Madam a qualified doctor to give that opinion?

Surreptitious · 20-05-2017 01:43AM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

The Lady was injured through negligence are you Sir/Madam a qualified doctor to give that opinion?

You said it wasn't a lot of money. I'm saying it is. I never mentioned her injury. 40K is a lot of money for a claim like this.

please helpThank YOU · 20-05-2017 01:44AM

Rod Munch wrote: »

It was happening, there has always been chancers but with the proliferation of internet usage people are imo much more likely to make a claim because it's pretty much a risk free endeavour.

If you Google about having any kind of an accident you are met with injurylawyers4u ads.

Studies in the UK argue that the rise in the "no win no fee" legal firms has directly impacted people's willingness to seek compensation for most anything.

I've no issues with people claiming when genuine injuries occur. Neither do insurers, that is afterall why insurance exists.

If someone misses time from work as a result of an injury then they should be reimbursed, likewise for medical expenses and what not.

But paying someone €40k for something like this is just obscene.

Ultimately it's a matter of personal accountability, there are two types of people imo, those that are perfectly happy to defraud an insurer and those that have actual moral fibre.

Insurance fraud is no different from stealing a handful of cash from a till but until real penalties are put in place for those that are found to be making false claims then nothing will change.

Sir/Madam do you work for a insurance com?

Surreptitious · 20-05-2017 01:47AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I'd love to know the date she got the tatoo on her left leg down near her ankle.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/unlucky-woman-who-slipped-on-chip-in-dublin-shopping-centre-awarded-40k-35734522.html

Three months is nothing. If you are seriously injured it would years to clear up. It's complete fraud.

Serial litigant gets 40k for chip slip

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