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Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭statto25


    I'm looking forward to seeing DOC at centre forward. Often last year we seen him receiving kickouts near his own half back line which was an absolute waste as he was gassed by the time he got up the field. The place for him is driving at defenders at pace and causing panic in opposition backlines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    kilns wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/

    An example of what being in limelight brings upon a player


    Embarrassing by Flynn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Mayo Team vs Sligo

    The announced team is: D Clarke; C Barrett, G Cafferkey, K Higgins; C Boyle, L Keegan, P Durcan; S O’Shea, T Parsons, F Boland, D O’Connor, C O’Shea; K McLoughlin, C O’Connor (capt), A Moran.

    No AO'Shea

    Announced on Mayo GAA Facebook Page


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    PressRun wrote: »
    Doesn't mean it won't or shouldn't be tried.

    Oh absolutely. I just wouldn't read too much into the team line up thats all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭PARlance




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Oh ffs egoman is back, im outta here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    Robeman wrote: »
    A bit late maybe commenting on the league but yet another national competition won by someone else. The same as the past 131 league \ all Irelands since 1951 with the exceptions of 1954\70\2001. The latter winning team managed by someone majority of current squad consider not good enough to manage them. A man who also managed an U21 All Ireland winning team.

    I said before the league Mayo would not win it and unfortunately they have once again proved me right. Not a particularly great prediction as 99.99% of GAA followers in the country would have predicted the same. Stephen Rochford stuck with the “Egos” and Mayo lost again. He is doing the same for the championship and Mayo will not win again. 99.99% of GAA followers will be of the same opinion.

    If SR had cleared out the “Egos” and commenced a rebuilding of the team I would have been happy to see his term extended for another couple of years. As he has not seen the big picture with the current squad he has to go at the end of this championship. ( If he does not go then for the sake of consistency the panel should really stage another revolt. If Holmes\Connolly not good enough for them after losing one All Ireland then how could SR be acceptable after losing two.)

    Thus my thoughts are turning to the next Mayo manager. We can expect that nobody of consequence from outside the county will want to take the job at this time. Therefore it will need to be an internal appointment. Holmes \ Connelly should be brought back but this will not be happening as they will not be entering a Mayo changing room again. McStay \ McHale will not feature either as Roscommon has not enhanced their prospects. From talking to various people the name that keeps cropping up is David Brady. When I thought about him my first reaction was why not ?.

    He does not have much experience in management but so what. We have had plenty of managers with experience and they have not succeeded. More importantly he cares about Mayo and he will be in charge. If he is smart enough to surround himself with a good team and will be willing to listen to them and take advice then he gets my vote. I am certain that his panel will contain no “Egos”

    After him I am struggling to come up with other possibilities. Peter Ford comes to mind as a no nonsense individual who again will be in charge. Not sure if he would want the gig but is good enough to do it. Maughan, O Mahoney and Horan have had multiple chances thus I would not consider them again.

    As I wrote this I saw Bernard Flynn’s article re Mayo match with Meath. I also saw reaction to it on this site. People with experience of management (in any sphere but particularly team management) will get the point Bernard was making, hero worshippers will not, as in general they have no experience of people management. There is a consistent message coming from the media re the Mayo team this past year like it or not. Which will it be for you “They are all wrong and we will win all Ireland this year” OR “They are right and once again we will fail to bring sam to Mayo”.

    There are no words :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Oh ffs egoman is back, im outta here.

    Seriously. Take a while away from here and come back to find the same eejit hijacking the thread again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Nice to see Cafferkey back playing. A long time out though so it will be interesting to see if he is still the same player.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Robeman wrote: »
    A bit late maybe commenting on the league but yet another national competition won by someone else. The same as the past 131 league \ all Irelands since 1951 with the exceptions of 1954\70\2001. The latter winning team managed by someone majority of current squad consider not good enough to manage them. A man who also managed an U21 All Ireland winning team.

    I said before the league Mayo would not win it and unfortunately they have once again proved me right. Not a particularly great prediction as 99.99% of GAA followers in the country would have predicted the same. Stephen Rochford stuck with the “Egos” and Mayo lost again. He is doing the same for the championship and Mayo will not win again. 99.99% of GAA followers will be of the same opinion.

    If SR had cleared out the “Egos” and commenced a rebuilding of the team I would have been happy to see his term extended for another couple of years. As he has not seen the big picture with the current squad he has to go at the end of this championship. ( If he does not go then for the sake of consistency the panel should really stage another revolt. If Holmes\Connolly not good enough for them after losing one All Ireland then how could SR be acceptable after losing two.)

    Thus my thoughts are turning to the next Mayo manager. We can expect that nobody of consequence from outside the county will want to take the job at this time. Therefore it will need to be an internal appointment. Holmes \ Connelly should be brought back but this will not be happening as they will not be entering a Mayo changing room again. McStay \ McHale will not feature either as Roscommon has not enhanced their prospects. From talking to various people the name that keeps cropping up is David Brady. When I thought about him my first reaction was why not ?.

    He does not have much experience in management but so what. We have had plenty of managers with experience and they have not succeeded. More importantly he cares about Mayo and he will be in charge. If he is smart enough to surround himself with a good team and will be willing to listen to them and take advice then he gets my vote. I am certain that his panel will contain no “Egos”

    After him I am struggling to come up with other possibilities. Peter Ford comes to mind as a no nonsense individual who again will be in charge. Not sure if he would want the gig but is good enough to do it. Maughan, O Mahoney and Horan have had multiple chances thus I would not consider them again.

    As I wrote this I saw Bernard Flynn’s article re Mayo match with Meath. I also saw reaction to it on this site. People with experience of management (in any sphere but particularly team management) will get the point Bernard was making, hero worshippers will not, as in general they have no experience of people management. There is a consistent message coming from the media re the Mayo team this past year like it or not. Which will it be for you “They are all wrong and we will win all Ireland this year” OR “They are right and once again we will fail to bring sam to Mayo”.


    Bad Comedy Thread is in After Hours Section.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    danganabu wrote: »
    There are no words :rolleyes:

    Absolute nonsense. Ego's is actually what we need & more of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Absolute classic. Let's get rid of the egos by putting their Club Manager in charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Oh ffs egoman is back, im outta here.

    The poster forgot to use the word 'cabal' as well ðŸ˜


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    So any word on AOS omission then? Injury im presuming :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Yes, its a sad day. I couldn't believe it when I heard it this morning. I had the privileged of seen Audioslave way back when they formed in the O2 around 2002/2003. I will never forget it.

    A extremely talented guy with a wonderful voice and such a deep song writer.

    RIP Cornell

    OMG such sad news,he was a wonderful talent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭glack


    So any word on AOS omission then? Injury im presuming :confused:

    He's named in the squad though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,222 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    glack wrote: »
    He's named in the squad though.

    Impact sub


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    all the monaing about giving young lads a chance and when he does everyone is moaning aido is missing out. jesus you cant win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    irishgeo wrote: »
    all the monaing about giving young lads a chance and when he does everyone is moaning aido is missing out. jesus you cant win.

    Where is all the "moaning"??
    :confused:

    Big difference between people wondering or being surprised as to why he wasn't named in the most important game since October and moaning about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Where is all the "moaning"??
    :confused:

    This. Who exactly is moaning?? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Why is the word ego always in quotes? It's a real word...

    re aos not starting. Rochford rarely starts the named team. Id hazard a guess that he will start in place of either boland or conor oshea, and line out at chf. Im hoping boland starts, he tends to go well against more open teams.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    I stopped paying attention to named teams a long time ago

    It's very hard to see what Boland will bring that we don't have, so I'd be amazed to see him barely even feature this summer. Coen or Doherty to start if o 'shea doesn't?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,402 ✭✭✭naughto


    I don't think any one is complaining to be honest impact sub to give some of the young lads a go
    I f things get sticky and I don't see that happening throw him in to put a few sligo lads on there holes.

    Sligo are no where near where we are I can't see it being a great game either

    Any one for London to beat Leitrim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    jr86 wrote: »
    I stopped paying attention to named teams a long time ago

    It's very hard to see what Boland will bring that we don't have, so I'd be amazed to see him barely even feature this summer. Coen or Doherty to start if o 'shea doesn't?

    Really? Id be of the opinion that he brings something we are lacking, i.e. someone who can deliver a well weighted, intelligent final ball.

    I think our delivery of the final ball has been well below average in recent seasons. Some of the passes aos has had put in were brutal. Compare that to what donaghy was getting in limerick and it is chalk and cheese. Boland has a touch of alan dilon about him, it is something we are missing in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Really? Id be of the opinion that he brings something we are lacking, i.e. someone who can deliver a well weighted, intelligent final ball.

    I think our delivery of the final ball has been well below average in recent seasons. Some of the passes aos has had put in were brutal. Compare that to what donaghy was getting in limerick and it is chalk and cheese. Boland has a touch of alan dilon about him, it is something we are missing in my opinion.

    Id be very surprised to see o'shea feature at full this year. The ff line named for Sunday won't change all year barring injury

    We'll play our usual running from deep attacking game and we have plenty of players for that.

    I'd rather see a nally, coen or Kirby given a go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Why is the word ego always in quotes? It's a real word...

    re aos not starting. Rochford rarely starts the named team. Id hazard a guess that he will start in place of either boland or conor oshea, and line out at chf. Im hoping boland starts, he tends to go well against more open teams.


    Often managers name teams that do not start. However, it is rare they leave off a top name from the team they announce. I am finding it hard to understand the rationale behind this one. Is there any advantage to not naming him in the team if he goes on to start? This is Sligo that Mayo are playing. They dont need to be engaging in any mind games. There could be some rationale behind it if it was one of the bigger teams (even the Galway match) where you might think it a good idea to keep them guessing if O'Se will start. Presumably, teams normally have a plan for O'Se so to put doubts in their minds might be worthwhile. But against Sligo? I dont really get it. All you are doing is putting a heap of attention on O'Se with people wondering why he is not starting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Often managers name teams that do not start. However, it is rare they leave off a top name from the team they announce. I am finding it hard to understand the rationale behind this one. Is there any advantage to not naming him in the team if he goes on to start? This is Sligo that Mayo are playing. They dont need to be engaging in any mind games. There could be some rationale behind it if it was one of the bigger teams (even the Galway match) where you might think it a good idea to keep them guessing if O'Se will start. Presumably, teams normally have a plan for O'Se so to put doubts in their minds might be worthwhile. But against Sligo? I dont really get it. All you are doing is putting a heap of attention on O'Se with people wondering why he is not starting.

    Agreed with above but I doubt he will start. It doesn't need to be alarming, he could have picked up a knock or Rochford may just feel that it's worth giving the likes of Boland a run. Rochford picks his team to suit the opposition more often than not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    I don't think he'll start. Boland will be given a go and why not. He's played throughout the league, would be fair to give him a crack of the whip in championship. O'Shea will probably come on later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    PARlance wrote: »
    Agreed with above but I doubt he will start. It doesn't need to be alarming, he could have picked up a knock or Rochford may just feel that it's worth giving the likes of Boland a run. Rochford picks his team to suit the opposition more often than not.

    Yeah, that is my take on it. That he must have some niggle. He didnt play a huge amount during the league so one would imagine, that you would like him to get a good chunk of a game against Sligo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,222 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    naughto wrote: »
    I don't think any one is complaining to be honest impact sub to give some of the young lads a go
    I f things get sticky and I don't see that happening throw him in to put a few sligo lads on there holes.

    Sligo are no where near where we are I can't see it being a great game either

    Any one for London to beat Leitrim

    No

    London only won 1 game in Div 4 and that was a suprise v Carlow

    Leitrim won 4

    I know Mulligan is out would still expect Leitrim


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