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M S E · 10-05-2017 08:56AM

I'm not sure if I have enough posts to post pictures but they are normal polishing cloths. I will have to look out for a brush in future because I don't want it to keep happening. I know a person that might have a spot polisher so I will start with that and hopefully it might reduce the scratches a bit.

Parapara2017 · 10-05-2017 01:09PM

Just received my delivery from paragon microfibre ltd.

Only complaint is the loose cloths came delivered unpackaged just sitting in the cardboard box so have bits of fluff and other minor debris stuck to them.

500gsm 40x40 cloths feel very nice. Same for the 500gsm drying towel and 1000(i think)gsm edgeless drying towel.

300gsm general purpose cloths feel a bit...thin? Like thinner than other standard microfibres. I'm no expert they just don't seem to have any pile.

Microfibre polishing pad is firm and big with a nice insert for your hand, we will see how this goes. Side question do you use microfibre vs sponge for application jobs which do you prefer?

Microfibre wash mitt comes sealed in a bag which is nice. Very large sleeve for your hand.

Would recommend checking them out. Great choice and cheaper than alternatives I think.

Parapara2017 · 10-05-2017 01:25PM

Just received my delivery from paragon microfibre ltd.

Only complaint is the loose cloths came delivered unpackaged just sitting in the cardboard box so have bits of fluff and other minor debris stuck to them.

500gsm 40x40 cloths feel very nice. Same for the 500gsm drying towel and 1000(i think)gsm edgeless drying towel.

300gsm general purpose cloths feel a bit...thin? Like thinner than other standard microfibres. I'm no expert they just don't seem to have any pile.

Microfibre polishing pad is firm and big with a nice insert for your hand, we will see how this goes. Side question do you use microfibre vs sponge for application jobs which do you prefer?

Microfibre wash mitt comes sealed in a bag which is nice. Very large sleeve for your hand.

Would recommend checking them out. Great choice and cheaper than alternatives I think.

Paragon microfibre https://imgur.com/gallery/qYfrl

Curran · 10-05-2017 08:21PM

The first two microfibers dont look too plush, but obviously pictures isnt a fair way to assess.
The mitt looks quite like the Gtechniq Mitt, which is a slightly lower standard* to the Microfiber Madness Incredimitt- *based on feedback from 'Forensic Detailing Channel' on YouTube.....and perhaps this is a slight step below both, perhaps not. Does it have a built in, internal sponge, to hold a large volume of water?
The blue drying towel looks a little rough, but the grey, look like it is potentially good.

ronnie3585 · 10-05-2017 10:23PM

What do people make of BH Autowash?

I used it washing my Mrs' car this evening and I'm not sure if I'm using enough. I put 7ml of it into about 8 litres of water. It created some decent suds (I realise this isn't the most important thing) which quickly died away and didn't feel at all slick when I was washing the car. It felt like there was very little lubrication going on.

I usually used Reset on mine. It produces a lot more suds, feels very, very slick and the mitt just glides over the car.

Do I need to use more Autowash?

MetzgerMeister · 10-05-2017 10:32PM

Curran wrote: »

The mitt looks quite like the Gtechniq Mitt, which is a slightly lower standard* to the Microfiber Madness Incredimitt- *based on feedback from 'Forensic Detailing Channel' on YouTube.

I always thought the Incredimitt and the Gtechniq one were the same thing just different colours and branding. I haven't used the Gtechniq one but I can say that the incredimitt is all you said it was hence why I bought one from ya! It's very good but I'm so used to the lambswool mitt like the Meguiars and BH so can't bring myself to use the incredimitt instead

quadrifoglio verde · 10-05-2017 11:17PM

ronnie3585 wrote: »

What do people make of BH Autowash?

I used it washing my Mrs' car this evening and I'm not sure if I'm using enough. I put 7ml of it into about 8 litres of water. It created some decent suds (I realise this isn't the most important thing) which quickly died away and didn't feel at all slick when I was washing the car. It felt like there was very little lubrication going on.

I usually used Reset on mine. It produces a lot more suds, feels very, very slick and the mitt just glides over the car.

Do I need to use more Autowash?

I love it. Have it ages now and much better than the autoglym, chemical guys or meguiars I used before that. 5 mL in 10L or so of warm water makes OK suds, but it's the ease of washing I like best.
It just glides and lifts the dirt.

Parapara2017 · 10-05-2017 11:20PM

Curran wrote: »

The first two microfibers dont look too plush, but obviously pictures isnt a fair way to assess.
The mitt looks quite like the Gtechniq Mitt, which is a slightly lower standard* to the Microfiber Madness Incredimitt- *based on feedback from 'Forensic Detailing Channel' on YouTube.....and perhaps this is a slight step below both, perhaps not. Does it have a built in, internal sponge, to hold a large volume of water?
The blue drying towel looks a little rough, but the grey, look like it is potentially good.

They're not overly plush, blue is 500gsm and black is 300gsm. Blues will be for buffing off polish and waxes.

Incredimitt seemed to be ot of stock everywhere I checked for some reason. Got a blue sheep one from DS instead. This mitt thought I'd get as a backup / for lower down areas. Will see how we go reviews seemed happy with it.

Blue drying towel is again 500gsm I think, maybe 600. The grey was 1000 I think.

ronnie3585 wrote: »

What do people make of BH Autowash?

I used it washing my Mrs' car this evening and I'm not sure if I'm using enough. I put 7ml of it into about 8 litres of water. It created some decent suds (I realise this isn't the most important thing) which quickly died away and didn't feel at all slick when I was washing the car. It felt like there was very little lubrication going on.

I usually used Reset on mine. It produces a lot more suds, feels very, very slick and the mitt just glides over the car.

Do I need to use more Autowash?

Were you using two buckets and rinsing off the mitt? I've read if the soap bucket is dirty it won't suds up well.

I haven't used it yet but most reviews seem to say that 5ml will create a tonne of suds. A teaspoon (5ml) then fill the bucket up with warm water should apparently be enough for 10/15L.

Curran · 10-05-2017 11:27PM

ronnie3585 wrote: »

What do people make of BH Autowash?

I used it washing my Mrs' car this evening and I'm not sure if I'm using enough. I put 7ml of it into about 8 litres of water. It created some decent suds (I realise this isn't the most important thing) which quickly died away and didn't feel at all slick when I was washing the car. It felt like there was very little lubrication going on.

I usually used Reset on mine. It produces a lot more suds, feels very, very slick and the mitt just glides over the car.

Do I need to use more Autowash?

No, sounds like youve used about the right amount...Id give it another go.
There is a sever amount of dust about, and settling on the car, so any shampoo used in those conditions is going to feel below its usual standard. Coupled with the fact that there may have been some tree sap carried in the air and landed on the car...with the rise in temps, the trees will let off quite a lot.

Parapara2017 wrote: »

Incredimitt seemed to be ot of stock everywhere I checked for some reason.

The Incredimitt are back in stock in Detailing Shed!

Parapara2017 · 10-05-2017 11:33PM

Curran wrote: »

No, sounds like youve used about the right amount...Id give it another go.
There is a sever amount of dust about, and settling on the car, so any shampoo used in those conditions is going to feel below its usual standard. Coupled with the fact that there may have been some tree sap carried in the air and landed on the car...with the rise in temps, the trees will let off quite a lot.

The Incredimitt are back in stock in Detailing Shed!

Ah its not just me then! Car is covered (by my standards not too awful!) in dust, sap and bird ****.

Its breaking my heart, last wash was around the 18th of April. Been holding off collecting my bits and pieces. Snow foam lance should be here tomorrow and then maybe I'll have a day off work and the weather will behave over the weekend for the job!

I've put in what must be over 400e at this stage, gonna have to burn through my mitts before buying more ðŸ˜‹

Question I saw someone say they bought one from you, are you behind DS?

Of course the forecast is for rain for about the next 10 days lol

Parapara2017 · 13-05-2017 07:28PM

So got my lance yesterday and after work today decided to get the first few stages outta the way.

So rinsed the car, then used the snow foam, pretty cool but the lance really drinks the stuff used just over 100ml I think, but was generous with it when applying.

Rinsed it off and think I attacked the wheels. Used kkd tar tastic on the wheels to test.... Didn't really do much. Then coated the car..... Didn't really do much....

After rinsing and letting the car dry and dabbing it with microfibre towels a bit to get the really wet parts I applied korrosol.

The wheels had a tiny bit of a reaction, brake discs lit up like a christmas tree obviously. Note; maybe a tint fee white stains on black trim from tar remover if anyone is wondering. So do test it in an inconspicuous spot.

Then applied korrosol to the car paint. Was pretty underwhelmed... Not much of a reaction, some spots. Interesting that behind the door handles and the edges of the side indicators / reflectors reacted the most. Areas that wouldn't have been clayed well as hard to reach. Car was last clayed a month ago though. Few smalllllllllll reaction spots but seeing as I used almost half a bottle of the stuff and the price I'm pretty disappointed. You can see the car is covered in it. Might revisit it in a year or something idk.

Question about the snow foam lance. Its a detailers united one and came with some water proof tape but no clear instructions... Couldn't make out where to put it. Ended up wrapping some around the exterior of a connection that was leaking but didn't stop the leak. Anyone know where to put it? Pics attached.

Due to the adverse weather conditions didn't do too much had drizzle and a fair bit of wind today during. Hopefully dry and not as windy tomorrow. I got the (chemical) decontaminating done today so tomorrow the plan is hopefully to snowfoam it again first, hand wash, clay, rinse, dry and begin polish then wax.

Pics attached.

https://imgur.com/a/5JpTf

Does it seem like a lot of korrosol and tar remover to use? Its a small car... But completely new with using them all.

E: also in relation to BH auto wash comment above; also ran into this problem when washing tyres. Didn't really last.

edburg · 13-05-2017 08:30PM

Lack of reaction is a good thing, means very little to remove.

Amount used about right for whole car, by sounds of it you could prob just do lower sides and around arch's for next few months. I only spray whole car during full sessions myself (twice a year), sides once a month.

Run out of auto wash a while ago but I did roughly 2 caps in approx 15litres water. Will be buying more once I go through all my left overseas hahaha

Curran · 13-05-2017 10:51PM

Claying will have removed quite a lot of fallout, so I wouldnt have expected a massive amount of fallout to have built up in a month, unless you were doing mega mileage. And you are seeing the normal places for heavy build up; wheels and around the arches, etc.
You should notice a lot of difference between claying without using a fallout remover, and using a fallout remover, the latter being much easier to do, and quicker - however this may not be too obvious, since you clayed only a month ago.

The water proof tape, Id imagine is only if you had a small leak at the conneciton - theys supplied some so you could put more on if needed to get a better seal; probably wouldnt even be needed.

Half a bottle Korrosol for the wheels and car is about right, but again, little reaction due to the recent claying. Also, its not always obvious what a fallout remover is doing...and hard to see on certain colours...you'd see no reaction on black, but all the reaction on white or silver. Also, a fallout remover should never be rated on how much reaction can be seen....there are products on the market that will turn purple and bleed immediately...a slower bleed is often better as the product is actually dwelling on the area before slowly dragging off the surface due to gravity, and thus the appearance of a slow reaction.

When you say TarTastic didnt do much? Didnt remove the tar? Did you apply it to a wet surface?

Parapara2017 · 14-05-2017 09:55AM

Curran wrote: »

Claying will have removed quite a lot of fallout, so I wouldnt have expected a massive amount of fallout to have built up in a month, unless you were doing mega mileage. And you are seeing the normal places for heavy build up; wheels and around the arches, etc.
You should notice a lot of difference between claying without using a fallout remover, and using a fallout remover, the latter being much easier to do, and quicker - however this may not be too obvious, since you clayed only a month ago.

The water proof tape, Id imagine is only if you had a small leak at the conneciton - theys supplied some so you could put more on if needed to get a better seal; probably wouldnt even be needed.

Half a bottle Korrosol for the wheels and car is about right, but again, little reaction due to the recent claying. Also, its not always obvious what a fallout remover is doing...and hard to see on certain colours...you'd see no reaction on black, but all the reaction on white or silver. Also, a fallout remover should never be rated on how much reaction can be seen....there are products on the market that will turn purple and bleed immediately...a slower bleed is often better as the product is actually dwelling on the area before slowly dragging off the surface due to gravity, and thus the appearance of a slow reaction.

When you say TarTastic didnt do much? Didnt remove the tar? Did you apply it to a wet surface?

Yeah I'd say there will be a massive reaction if I sprayed it on the other car thats 5 years old 90,000km and never clayed ðŸ˜±

The TarTastic didn't do anything really visible as far as I cam see. Eg still some tar spots around the bottom. But to be fair it does say to wipe the product off and I just rinsed it. If I rubbed the spots with my finger the tar did seem looser.

Hopefully It stays cloudy and dry now so I can get and and polish etc.

Parapara2017 · 14-05-2017 07:32PM

Question, during use pads got pretty dirty and black.

Can they be reused theyve been washed but discoloured, ie white has turned grey after wash and yellow is darkened with black.

Surprised how dirty they got, then again I was working outside with a lot of dust wind and debris.

Curran · 14-05-2017 10:34PM

The should be fine to use - once they are actually clean.

However, if they are dramatically dirt, I'd question where you might have gone wrong in your process, as a decontaminated car shouldnt have much dirt on it.

Parapara2017 · 14-05-2017 11:20PM

Curran wrote: »

The should be fine to use - once they are actually clean.

However, if they are dramatically dirt, I'd question where you might have gone wrong in your process, as a decontaminated car shouldnt have much dirt on it.

Not dramatically, phone died last time I went to post pictures. But yeah I would think clean car shouldnt be so bad. Perhaps parts of trim and edges that may not have been cleaned properly and bits of debris etc from surroundings.

ronnie3585 · 15-05-2017 01:53PM

I gave BH Autowash another go this weekend. The GTi was filthy, caked in dust and tree sap from the last two weeks’ fine weather. I hit it with Autofoam first which did an impressive job of taking most of the dirt off. Then I used the Autowash. I put about 8ml of it into a 8 litre bucket, but this time I used warm water instead of cold and saw a massive difference. It was incredibly slick and the mitt just glided across the paint work, night and day from my last use with cold water. I can see what all the hype is about now.

It was also my first time washing the car after applying Fusso and I’m blown away by it. I’ve used many different products on my cars, ceramic coatings, waxes, sealants, glazes and hybrids and Fusso is up there at the top of the list. It’s insanely hydrophobic, its water action is similar to ceramic in that it repels absolutely everything you can throw at it. It’s a breeze to wash and you can dry it almost completely with an open hose. Given its cost and ease of application, it hard to beat.

15-05-2017 02:00PM

maybe more of a DIY effort but I've been thinking about swapping the drivers side seat back (not the base because of the controls )with the passenger side to save the bolster ?

doable?

Curran · 15-05-2017 02:16PM

Seen it done with leather seats in a BMW 5 Series, so can't see why not. Lad said it was a bit of effort doing the clips, etc, but we'll worth it to have even wear on the seats for a car with mileage into 150k, at 200k they'd look quite similar.

15-05-2017 02:33PM

Curran wrote: »

Seen it done with leather seats in a BMW 5 Series, so can't see why not. Lad said it was a bit of effort doing the clips, etc, but we'll worth it to have even wear on the seats for a car with mileage into 150k, at 200k they'd look quite similar.

I'll have to look into it.
not leather .mk5 gti

Ardennes1944 · 15-05-2017 03:01PM

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ValetPro Black to the Future - Kunststoffpflege 250ml
3M Scotch Tape 3434 18mm Abklebeband
APS Pro Vertex Poliermaschinenpad Polierschwamm medium 149mm
APS Pro Poliermaschinenpad - Polierschwamm weich 149mm
APS Pro Honeycomb Vertex - Poliermaschinenpad Polierschwamm hart
APS Pro Poliermaschinenpad - Polierschwamm medium 149mm
Liquid Elements IPA 99%-Isopropylalkohol 1000ml
Koch Chemie Micro Cut & Finish P2.02 Hochglanz-Politur 250ml

The latest order, hoping Gyeon wont let me down, Ive read good things!

jay f · 18-05-2017 04:50AM

Hello guys.
i am planning on detailing my car soon when i get the microfibre cutting and finishing pad. I'm going to be using dual action polisher. About the polishing compound i already have the chemical guys v34 and v36.
Now i want to buy finish polishing compund.
Will i get the v38 or the car pro reflect? Any recommendations on this product or advise is welcome?
Thanks

Curran · 18-05-2017 09:28AM

Both are very capable. Reflect is very good but I also like V38 as it can be worked for quite a long time.

Theboinkmaster · 18-05-2017 03:27PM

Curran wrote: »

Seen it done with leather seats in a BMW 5 Series, so can't see why not. Lad said it was a bit of effort doing the clips, etc, but we'll worth it to have even wear on the seats for a car with mileage into 150k, at 200k they'd look quite similar.

I'd love to do that but what about the adjustment controls on the side of the seat? If I swapped the seats around they'd be inaccessible as on wrong side?

MetzgerMeister · 18-05-2017 03:32PM

5 series seat controls are on the base of the seat rather than the back. Swapping the back of the seat is in question, not the base.

Ardennes1944 · 18-05-2017 07:41PM

Hi all,

I am in Switzerland and wish to bring my Kestrel DAS6 machine polisher back with me in my hand luggage from Ireland when I visit family in 3 weeks. If it doesnt work out I will have to pay 50quid to bring it over with me and the hassle of packing it up etc etc.
If anyone is interested in a cheap but very good beginners dual action polisher for cheap PM me and maybe we can sort something out.

Toyotafanboi · 18-05-2017 10:16PM

Picked up this the other week. They were being demo'd at work and I accidentally bought one :pac: I had planned on buying a DAS6 or something like that soon, this blew the budget a little but hopefully it'll serve me well in the long run.

I'm more than a little "all the gear, No idea" at the moment. I've bought it in the anticipation that whatever replaces the Civic i want to keep fairly tidy.

I had a draper rotary years ago that I had ok success with but the max speed on that rotary was 5k rpm and you could run it as low as 500rpm. The lowest speed setting on this is 3200rpm and it goes all the way to 9500.

Got some nice autoglym tat too.

Ron Burgundy II · 18-05-2017 10:20PM

Nice, the new Flex XFE 7-15 150. Have you managed to try it out?

Forensic Detailing did a review on one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uu3xBaTWRg

Toyotafanboi · 18-05-2017 10:52PM

Thanks! Nah, havn't went near anything. I want to watch a lot of YouTube first because I'm pretty sure I'll **** something up otherwise. That and I only have 3 pads and no polishes and no idea what to buy to use with it.

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