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DCM 2017 Mentored Novices Thread
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Hi all
I finally took the plunge after wanting to do a marathon for years. Now I've no choice but to follow.
I've been working on my technique lately, having done the ChiRunning course with Caitriona McKieran and also a heart rate test to make sure I won't drop dead. Apparently I'm in very good nick or so I'm told.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
No running events to talk about but did Gael Force West a few years ago so I understand what's involved in long distances. Also learned some very valuable lessons never to be repeated.
7km: 45:02
7.75km: 47:24
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
3-4 days a week combination of running/cycling/core work/stretching. I have few weddings so I've a plan which starts a few weeks earlier than the one suggested here.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
1. Get to start line
2. Finish
3. Sub 6hrs
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
Plan to train 4 days a week.
Why are you running this marathon?
For me0 -
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I'm a total novice here, having only run 5km for the first time last weekend! I've no idea of time goals or anything else for the marathon, just that I want to complete it. Will be doing lots of research for the next while, and I'm sure I'll be back with millions of questions, too! Just wanted to pop in to say hi for now.
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Hi I'm not sure whether I'm a Novice or not as I've already ran 2 marathons and have been quite a 'consistent' runner for 6 or 7 years. But this is my first Dublin marathon and that will be a new experience.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
5k - 21'09- (2016)
Half Marathon - 1'44'00 (2017)
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? 2 training runs and 1 long Sunday run. Recently started 'fitness classes' in a gym, my upper body, my core is quite weak.
What do you want to achieve? To enjoy the experience of staying in Dublin for the weekend and running a 'big' marathon' with large numbers of spectators and runners. I'd like to finish in 3'40 or 3'50 at worst.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow? I'll up the mileage from July on, on all runs,probably add a 4th day, depending on how I'm feeling,
Why are you running this marathon?
To maintain variety in my running, to hopefully meet club members and family there, to 'experience Dublin'. It could be the only Dublin marathon I do as I'm not from there staying the night before in a hotel etc, It'll be quite a different experience to the 2 'home' marathons I did . 0 -
Can I join in, even if I'm only a maybe (and a doubtful maybe at that) for actually running the marathon? If not, or if my form is so poor, then please feel free to tell me to feck off out of here - I won't be offended
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
No, never entered a race. The only official time I have is for Parkruns which gives me a 5km time of 34:11. But I'm improving that time all the time, and my ultimate aim is to get to 30:00
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No, not at the distances I'm running. But at the moment that's only a little over 7km. I think I have it in me to do 10km though, if not now, then soon. Anything longer than that, and yes, I'd probably need walking breaks at the moment, but maybe by end-October I'll not?
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
3 solo runs a week (2 x 7km, 1 x 5km) and one Parkrun. Sometimes two 5km+ brisk walks too. And one rest day. I am still relatively unfit, and am a couple of stone overweight too.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
I checked out my expected marathon time based on my current 5km time, and that's about 5.5 hours. Dream time would be under 5 hours. Realistic time would be under 6 hours. But to complete it at all would be fantastic. I only started running last September with C25K, and once I got the running bug I had in mind to do a marathon but it was something I was thinking of in the distant future when I could do it "properly". But when I saw this thread, this year's was on my mind, and I figured I might try it this year anyway, before I got too old (I'm early 40s, female, btw), even if I end up walking a good portion of it.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
I do four days at the moment anyway, so I'd be happy to commit to that as a minimum, with another two days training a very real possibility. I'd probably be sticking to the HH plan.
Why are you running this marathon?
"Running" might be stretching it a bit. But you never know. I'd like to attempt the training and even if I fail to enter the marathon, I'll be increasing my fitness and it should stand to me in the future. But you never know, I might surprise myself and enter and actually complete it too. I'll have a LOT of questions though, so be warned if I'm allowed to stay on-thread.0 -
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michael031987 wrote: »Hi
I've just started running of January this year with a goal of 2017 being the year for the DCM. And it is safe to say that I'm hooked. I turned 30 this year so it was a now or never sort of thing. I'm not a fast runner but hopefully this year the goal is to complete the challenges in front of me and then next year to focus on PB's
Don't do parkruns as times don't suit me with work so largely all of my running is just me, headphones and open road. The goal at the start of the year was to do the 10k at the roayal canal marathon but training was just going perfect so I'm proud to say that I completed the half marathon instead and a sub 2hr to boot
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
I'm not great for keeping a track of PB's but a few that I've noted
5k - 25m23s in training this week
10k- 51m57s the ros run 2nd April
Half- 1hr 58m 57s royal canal run 22april
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
I run 4 days a week 2 5k 1 8k and 1 LSR
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
The dream is sub 4h30m but just to finish would be amazing
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
Because of work I'm restricted to 4days max training. I'm currently following the ASICS run app
Why are you running this marathon?
My son was born last year and I want to try to set an example from early days
Hi Michael031987,
Welcome! Completing a half marathon just a few short months after starting off is a fine achievement. It might be a while before we discover what you're truly capable of
Don't worry too much about pace just yet. Training for your first marathon is a very gradual process, but one which you should feel confident about getting through. Hopefully you can show your son some great finisher photos in the future. Thanks for signing up, and best of luck!0 -
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brownbinman wrote: »Hi all
I finally took the plunge after wanting to do a marathon for years. Now I've no choice but to follow.
I've been working on my technique lately, having done the ChiRunning course with Caitriona McKieran and also a heart rate test to make sure I won't drop dead. Apparently I'm in very good nick or so I'm told.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
No running events to talk about but did Gael Force West a few years ago so I understand what's involved in long distances. Also learned some very valuable lessons never to be repeated.
7km: 45:02
7.75km: 47:24
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
3-4 days a week combination of running/cycling/core work/stretching. I have few weddings so I've a plan which starts a few weeks earlier than the one suggested here.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
1. Get to start line
2. Finish
3. Sub 6hrs
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
Plan to train 4 days a week.
Why are you running this marathon?
For me
Hi brownbinman,
Welcome aboard! I know a few people who completed GFW. The fact that you've got through that shows you should have the endurance once you build up the mileage.
By the way, nowadays we normally put triathletes in a dark corner of Boards well away from here
But since we're talking about the marathon, you can stay
Don't worry too much about weddings affecting your preparation. Everyone here is going to have something or other which impacts on the schedules over the next 5 1/2 months.....so they're not as rigid as some other plans may be. All in all, (1) and (2) of your goals above seem more than achievable. Don't worry about finishing times too much for now. That 6 hours may yet turn out to be highly conservative.
Thanks for signing up, and best of luck!0 -
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Lady is a tramp wrote: »I'm a total novice here, having only run 5km for the first time last weekend! I've no idea of time goals or anything else for the marathon, just that I want to complete it. Will be doing lots of research for the next while, and I'm sure I'll be back with millions of questions, too! Just wanted to pop in to say hi for now.
Hi Lady is a tramp,
Welcome on board! No harm in not having a time goal yet. That's something we'll be able to get a better idea of as time goes by. Feel free to ask questions sure that's why we're here..... Hopefully after the marathon, you'll be able to say that 2017 was a very good year. Thanks for signing up, best of luck! 0 -
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Hi I'm not sure whether I'm a Novice or not as I've already ran 2 marathons and have been quite a 'consistent' runner for 6 or 7 years. But this is my first Dublin marathon and that will be a new experience.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
5k - 21'09- (2016)
Half Marathon - 1'44'00 (2017)
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? 2 training runs and 1 long Sunday run. Recently started 'fitness classes' in a gym, my upper body, my core is quite weak.
What do you want to achieve? To enjoy the experience of staying in Dublin for the weekend and running a 'big' marathon' with large numbers of spectators and runners. I'd like to finish in 3'40 or 3'50 at worst.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow? I'll up the mileage from July on, on all runs,probably add a 4th day, depending on how I'm feeling,
Why are you running this marathon?
To maintain variety in my running, to hopefully meet club members and family there, to 'experience Dublin'. It could be the only Dublin marathon I do as I'm not from there staying the night before in a hotel etc, It'll be quite a different experience to the 2 'home' marathons I did .
Hi Spirogyra,
Welcome aboard! You're a DCM Novice, as I was last year, so of course you can join
With plenty of experience, including two previous marathons, and some impressive times listed, this one should hold no fears for you. Believe me, running DCM is a very special experience, even if you're not from around these parts and even if it's not your first marathon. My wife has amazing patience, putting up with all my ramblings in the build up last year! Adding the 4th day should be easy for you in terms of running fitness, provided everything else is going well. Thanks for signing up, and best of luck! 0 -
Can I join in, even if I'm only a maybe (and a doubtful maybe at that) for actually running the marathon? If not, or if my form is so poor, then please feel free to tell me to feck off out of here - I won't be offended
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
No, never entered a race. The only official time I have is for Parkruns which gives me a 5km time of 34:11. But I'm improving that time all the time, and my ultimate aim is to get to 30:00
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No, not at the distances I'm running. But at the moment that's only a little over 7km. I think I have it in me to do 10km though, if not now, then soon. Anything longer than that, and yes, I'd probably need walking breaks at the moment, but maybe by end-October I'll not?
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
3 solo runs a week (2 x 7km, 1 x 5km) and one Parkrun. Sometimes two 5km+ brisk walks too. And one rest day. I am still relatively unfit, and am a couple of stone overweight too.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
I checked out my expected marathon time based on my current 5km time, and that's about 5.5 hours. Dream time would be under 5 hours. Realistic time would be under 6 hours. But to complete it at all would be fantastic. I only started running last September with C25K, and once I got the running bug I had in mind to do a marathon but it was something I was thinking of in the distant future when I could do it "properly". But when I saw this thread, this year's was on my mind, and I figured I might try it this year anyway, before I got too old (I'm early 40s, female, btw), even if I end up walking a good portion of it.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
I do four days at the moment anyway, so I'd be happy to commit to that as a minimum, with another two days training a very real possibility. I'd probably be sticking to the HH plan.
Why are you running this marathon?
"Running" might be stretching it a bit. But you never know. I'd like to attempt the training and even if I fail to enter the marathon, I'll be increasing my fitness and it should stand to me in the future. But you never know, I might surprise myself and enter and actually complete it too. I'll have a LOT of questions though, so be warned if I'm allowed to stay on-thread.
Hi quickbeam,
Welcome aboard! To the best of my knowledge, we've never excluded anyone due to "poor form" or results, and I don't intend to start that this year
Don't be afraid of the distances you read in looking at the plans. They're structured in such a way that a gradual progression should make it possible for you to complete them at a pace that suits you. Towards the end you'll be thinking "only 14 miles today?" and if so, you won't be the first
Just a note in relation to "expected marathon time based on my current 5km time" (this applies to all here)
For our purposes, I don't think they will have a lot of relevance. These are usually only applicable to runners with a lot more experience than us, and whose training, race times etc should therefore be a lot more consistent.
In addition, the bigger the gap in distances, by definition the less correlation you're going to have anyway. Most of us will only get a clearer picture of what we can do on the day as our training progresses.
This is why I highly recommend taking on one or more of the Race Series events (or similar). They are very enjoyable races, and they will all have very big numbers, so you'll always have someone to chase
Anyway, apologies for going slightly off course. Thanks again quickbeam for signing up, and best of luck!0 -
Hi, tentatively stepping aboard
Started C25K in Nov 2013. Took a rather long break in 2015 during which i welcomed my youngest baby, got back into in early in 2016.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
5k 24:53 (June 2016)
8k 42:09 (Jan 2017)
10k 55:53 (Sept 2016)
Half 2:09:xx (Oct 2016)
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
3 runs averaging 15-20 mpw. 1 spinning class.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
4:29:xx would be the dream time.
4:59:xx more realistic.
Main goal would be to arrive at both the start & the finish lines knowing i could have done no more
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
Plan would be to run 4 days and replace my spinning class with a yoga/pilates class.
Cross training will be limited to running after my kids i'm afraid as i can't ask any more of them or their dad.
Boards as i like the idea of 2 x 20 miles :eek:
Why are you running this marathon?
Because i can and many can't.
I'm healthy, i'm fit, i'm alive, i have family support and if i put in the work then i can do it
I want my children to see that if they put their mind to anything in life & put in the work (within reason - obviously i can't win it) then they can do it too 0 -
I'm also going to tentatively dip my toe into this thread for now as I'm not entirely sure I'd be able for a marathon. I completed 2 half-marathons last year but, for various reasons including moving house (getting my excuses in early), I haven't been running as regularly lately but I intend to change that.
I've signed up to the Clontarf Half-Marathon at the start of July and once that's over I'm going to start the Marathon training and see how I progress with it before making a definitive decision.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
10km: 55:10 (September 2015)
Half-marathon: 2:04:30 (Great Limerick Run - May 2016).
Also ran 2:05 in Dublin Race Series Half last year, so that seems to be my pace. Even though it was slower, it felt like a much easier race as I paced it a lot better.
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
7 miles last weekend for the long run, and it's back to 3 runs per week from this week (though that had been down to 2 runs of late).
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
I'd love to aim for sub 4:30 if that would be achievable, but I'd be delighted just to finish it.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
Intend to train 4 days a week. I like the idea of getting longer LSR's in on the Boards plan, but realistically, I think the Hal Higdon one may suit my level better. I may wait til after Clontarf to decide, but if any of last years grads had advice on this, it'd be much appreciated.
Why are you running this marathon?
Long story short, I got incredibly sick back in 2011. Prior to that, I was the fittest I had ever been, loved running and was considering training for a marathon.
It took me 2 years to get back to good health and to start running again. From there it took me about 6 months to get up to 10k (I'll never forget that 10k run, felt like such an achievement). Right now, I'm feeling fit and healthy so I think this could be the year to aim for the marathon! Would mean a lot to me to be able to finish it!
My "Long story short" has turned into a bit of a ramble, so I'll finish by saying thanks for taking this on Wubble Wubble, and best of luck to all the novices!! 0 -
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Hi, tentatively stepping aboard
Started C25K in Nov 2013. Took a rather long break in 2015 during which i welcomed my youngest baby, got back into in early in 2016.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
5k 24:53 (June 2016)
8k 42:09 (Jan 2017)
10k 55:53 (Sept 2016)
Half 2:09:xx (Oct 2016)
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
3 runs averaging 15-20 mpw. 1 spinning class.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
4:29:xx would be the dream time.
4:59:xx more realistic.
Main goal would be to arrive at both the start & the finish lines knowing i could have done no more
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
Plan would be to run 4 days and replace my spinning class with a yoga/pilates class.
Cross training will be limited to running after my kids i'm afraid as i can't ask any more of them or their dad.
Boards as i like the idea of 2 x 20 miles :eek:
Why are you running this marathon?
Because i can and many can't.
I'm healthy, i'm fit, i'm alive, i have family support and if i put in the work then i can do it
I want my children to see that if they put their mind to anything in life & put in the work (within reason - obviously i can't win it) then they can do it too
Hi ariana`,
Welcome! No need to be tentative stepping aboard here
You're keeping up a reasonable level of mileage as it is, with some good race times too. Trust me, that 2 x 20 miles won't be anywhere nearly as scary in a few months Great attitude as well. Thanks for signing up, and best of luck! 0 -
I'm also going to tentatively dip my toe into this thread for now as I'm not entirely sure I'd be able for a marathon. I completed 2 half-marathons last year but, for various reasons including moving house (getting my excuses in early), I haven't been running as regularly lately but I intend to change that.
I've signed up to the Clontarf Half-Marathon at the start of July and once that's over I'm going to start the Marathon training and see how I progress with it before making a definitive decision.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
10km: 55:10 (September 2015)
Half-marathon: 2:04:30 (Great Limerick Run - May 2016).
Also ran 2:05 in Dublin Race Series Half last year, so that seems to be my pace. Even though it was slower, it felt like a much easier race as I paced it a lot better.
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
7 miles last weekend for the long run, and it's back to 3 runs per week from this week (though that had been down to 2 runs of late).
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
I'd love to aim for sub 4:30 if that would be achievable, but I'd be delighted just to finish it.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
Intend to train 4 days a week. I like the idea of getting longer LSR's in on the Boards plan, but realistically, I think the Hal Higdon one may suit my level better. I may wait til after Clontarf to decide, but if any of last years grads had advice on this, it'd be much appreciated.
Why are you running this marathon?
Long story short, I got incredibly sick back in 2011. Prior to that, I was the fittest I had ever been, loved running and was considering training for a marathon.
It took me 2 years to get back to good health and to start running again. From there it took me about 6 months to get up to 10k (I'll never forget that 10k run, felt like such an achievement). Right now, I'm feeling fit and healthy so I think this could be the year to aim for the marathon! Would mean a lot to me to be able to finish it!
My "Long story short" has turned into a bit of a ramble, so I'll finish by saying thanks for taking this on Wubble Wubble, and best of luck to all the novices!!
Hi alooof,
Welcome to the thread! (checks to make sure he counted the "o"s correctly)
Looking at what you've sent us here, it seems like you would be more than able for a marathon. There's some very good times in there. And especially for longer distances, getting your pacing right is one of the most important things you can do.
I've run Clontarf HM five times over the years; it's one I like, and it was my first, although lots of others I know hate it. Back to our training plans, I was a Boards plan man, although a lot of the DCM Graduates from last year (and other years) have popped in here already, and I'm sure one or more will be able to comment on how HH helped them. Of course, you don't have to decide right now
Don't worry about long stories. It seems like you've made a great recovery already to get to where you are. Hopefully we can help take you to the DCM finish line as well Thanks for signing up, and best of luck! 0 -
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Obviously I don't need a running watch if I'm doing this training (people have been running marathons for years before such things were available), but I presume it would greatly assist me if I had one, right? At the moment I use the free version of MapMyRun on my phone, worn in a running belt, which tells me distance, pace, intervals, etc - grand for analysing a run when you get home, but not much use to me during the course of the run. I think I'd especially need something that will continously tell me my pace, because I have a tendancy to run as fast as I can (which, admittedly) isn't that fast), instead of sticking to a slower pace with the aim of going further.
So, my question is, if I was to get a running watch, what would be the recommendation? As an aside, I see AIB Rewards has a 15% discount in Elvery's for spend over €50, so I was checking their site, and like the look of the Forerunner 35 at €225, which I could then get for €191.25. Would that be a good watch, and good value to go for?
Hi quickbeam,
You're right in that many marathons were run before all these fancy gadgets. I'm in that category twice over sure even though I've had Map My Run on the phone for ages, I haven't set it up properly yet #setinmyways
In relation to running watches, there's so many different models out there that even if I made regular use of one, I wouldn't try to give a definitive answer. Different strokes for different folks and all that.
So in this case, I'll redirect you to the "Gear and Equipment" forum just over there on the right. Plus a few here might be able to help you out 0 -
Hi I'm hoping to bite the bullet this year and run a marathon so hoping to get motivation here.
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
A few 5ks all approx 28 mins
10ks approx 58 mins
1 half Oct 16 2hr 6 mins
These times are over a fee years. Slower than most on here I notice but I never seem to improve, maybe im just meant to be slow or maybe due to my avoidance of intervals training.
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
Have fallen off the wagon with running lately so just doing about 2 6ks per week.
Also do 2 circuit classes and a boxfit class at lunch time.
Started back this week with 1x8k and 2x6k and will do 5k tomorrow.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
To run it all and finish is ultimate goal but really love to be under 5hrs or absolute dream 4hr40ish
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
Plan to run 4 days and do circuit class and boxfit on two other days.
Have just done a plan of my own on excel based mainly on HHnovice1.
Am single mum of 2 with fulltime job so time is precious but I've a few family members on alert that I'll be needing babysitting!
Why are you running this marathon?
Running a marathon is something I've thought about for years and really just want to prove to myself I can. Said I'd do it before turning 40 so only 2 chances left at dublin!
Hi henrietta,
Welcome to the thread! Don't mind comparing your times to others here, it's what you can do that's important. In any event, those times are nothing to be ashamed of
I've done plenty of circuit training over the years, and in ways it's tougher than a long run. As you build up your mileage, that S&C work will help you along too. Hope you can find enough hours in your week for everything. You're certainly more than capable of making the step up in distance from half marathon to full. Thanks for signing up, best of luck!0 -
Obviously I don't need a running watch if I'm doing this training (people have been running marathons for years before such things were available), but I presume it would greatly assist me if I had one, right?
I don't think it will greatly assist you. I was in the novices thread a couple of years ago, and got along just fine using the Nike+ app on my iPhone. A couple of months after the marathon I bought a proper running watch, and I'm still using it, and I really like it. It's definitely a better experience, however is in no way necessary for most marathon novices, unless you're obsessive about paces, or really like gadgets or have loads of money to spend.
I'm not alone in this opinion: checkout what The Wirecutter has to say about whether phones are good enough here: http://thesweethome.com/reviews/best-running-watch/
That said, I did feel like more of a runner once I had a real running watch 0 -
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