Terrorist Assassination Plot in Germany

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 11:41AM

Billy86 wrote: »

Is that a Le Pen quote?

again you may have not been quoting me

but I googled in "See you in September" and "See you in September Le Pen" and got nothing about quotes from Le Pen. Best I got was about some song that has those lyrics on the former.

NinjaKirby · 11-05-2017 12:02PM

wes wrote: »

Some on here have lost the run of themselves imo.

Its pretty nutty in a thread about Neo-Nazis plotting terrorism, we have people calling Merkel Hitler, as opposed to the bloody Neo-Nazis. The boardsie far right have lost the plot on this one, when they defacto side with Neo-Nazis, the people who actually share Hitlers ideology.

Do you do this on every single thread?

Amazing!

So I think we've gone from an article about a planned terrorist attack to a debate over whether or not it's terrorism to one poster saying Merkel is Hitler to a rant about the "boardsie far right".

What the hell, and who the hell, is the boardsie far right? One poster?

So I think where we are at now is...

BBC Article: Assassination Plot
Billy86: Terrorist Assassination Plot
551: Isn't this just an assassination plot?
Peregrinus: No. It's terrorism and anyone who says otherwise is an apologist for terrorism
The_Kew_Tour: Merkel is Hitler!
Wes: The Boardsie Far Right is defacto siding with Neo-Nazis.
Me: WTF??

NinjaKirby · 11-05-2017 12:12PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Is that a Le Pen quote?

Hahahahaha!

Are you for real?

Yes, that famous Le Pen quote. "See you in September."

Wonderful!

*Googles "le pen see you in september"*

Actually, See You In September is a song written by Sid Wayne and Sherman Edwards and performed by The Tempos. Released in 1959 it peaked at number 23.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/See_You_in_September

wes · 11-05-2017 01:23PM

NinjaKirby wrote: »

Do you do this on every single thread?

Amazing!

Same could be said of you :P.

NinjaKirby wrote: »

So I think we've gone from an article about a planned terrorist attack to a debate over whether or not it's terrorism to one poster saying Merkel is Hitler to a rant about the "boardsie far right".

What the hell, and who the hell, is the boardsie far right? One poster?

Yeah, we should totally ignore people calling Merkel Hitler, instead of the Neo-Nazis....... Sure nothing to see here, and no need for anyone to point out how silly such a statement like that is.

Also, look at the post above mine for an example of what I am talking about. You can choose to ignore them and more power to you if you choose to do so, but its a bit much to expect others to follow suit.

NinjaKirby wrote: »

So I think where we are at now is...

BBC Article: Assassination Plot
Billy86: Terrorist Assassination Plot
551: Isn't this just an assassination plot?
Peregrinus: No. It's terrorism and anyone who says otherwise is an apologist for terrorism
The_Kew_Tour: Merkel is Hitler!
Wes: The Boardsie Far Right is defacto siding with Neo-Nazis.
Me: WTF??

Now me, WTH?

What exactly is wrong with point out how absurd some people are being, by calling Merkel Hitler as opposed to the Neo-Nazi terrorist? Also, calling such views far right, is perfectly valid, whether you like it or not.

I don't know which is funnier, the people screaming Hitler at Merkel, or the guy complaining about people point out how bloody absurd such a statement is.

Billy86 · 11-05-2017 01:47PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

again you may have not been quoting me

but I googled in "See you in September" and "See you in September Le Pen" and got nothing about quotes from Le Pen. Best I got was about some song that has those lyrics on the former.

I'm fully aware of what you were referencing. It sounds awful similar to the "see you in April/May" comments we were hearing a few months ago about Le Pen supposedly winning the French election being a foregone conclusion, and the same for Wilders in the Netherlands before her.

So yeah, see you in September.

NinjaKirby · 11-05-2017 01:53PM

wes wrote: »

Same could be said of you :P.

Yeah, we should totally ignore people calling Merkel Hitler, instead of the Neo-Nazis....... Sure nothing to see here, and no need for anyone to point out how silly such a statement like that is.

Also, look at the post above mine for an example of what I am talking about. You can choose to ignore them and more power to you if you choose to do so, but its a bit much to expect others to follow suit.

Now me, WTH?

What exactly is wrong with point out how absurd some people are being, by calling Merkel Hitler as opposed to the Neo-Nazi terrorist? Also, calling such views far right, is perfectly valid, whether you like it or not.

I don't know which is funnier, the people screaming Hitler at Merkel, or the guy complaining about people point out how bloody absurd such a statement is.

Honestly I thought the post that was saying Merkel is Hitler was not exactly meant to be taken seriously.

Now, maybe it was but for me the comparison seems so absurd that I simply CAN'T take it seriously and so it seems like more of a joke than an honest opinion.

I guess for me I'm just not seeing this alt-right boogie man that you seem to be finding around every corner.

I mean, as far as I can tell "alt-right" kind of just seems like a re-branding of far-right and in online circles it genuinely feels like alt-right just means American-right.

I'm just feeling like there are certain topic now where "SJW" and "Alt-Right" are the only options and anyone with even a different opinion is likely to find themselves snarkily branded one or the other.

The far-right is certainly on the rise and eventually that will be a serious concern but it comes across like you are just chomping at the bit to connect any kind of disagreement to Neo-Nazis, Alt-Right in some way.

NinjaKirby · 11-05-2017 01:56PM

Billy86 wrote: »

It sounds awful similar to the "see you in April/May" comments we were hearing a few months ago about Le Pen supposedly winning the French election being a foregone conclusion, and the same for Wilders in the Netherlands before her.

OR you are looking for something that isn't there?

Just, it seems like you are really reaching there and I reckon you don't reach like that unless you REALLY want to make a specific connection.
Why though? To prove the poster is right wing?

It's weird. The original article here was about a right wing plot. Nobody can argue with that. I didn't see anyone supporting these actions.

The thread really became about branding people posting opinions or ideas in the thread as right wing. That's the obsession now, it seems. Finding the right wing, alt-right, Neo-Nazi, Fascist behind every avatar.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 02:03PM

Billy86 wrote: »

I'm fully aware of what you were referencing. It sounds awful similar to the "see you in April/May" comments we were hearing a few months ago about Le Pen supposedly winning the French election being a foregone conclusion, and the same for Wilders in the Netherlands before her.

So yeah, see you in September.

Ah ffs are you serious?

Jesus talk about low balling.

So was Roy Keane a racist now too when he told Viera "see you out there"

**** me I have heard it all now

wes · 11-05-2017 02:05PM

NinjaKirby wrote: »

Honestly I thought the post that was saying Merkel is Hitler was not exactly meant to be taken seriously.

Now, maybe it was but for me the comparison seems so absurd that I simply CAN'T take it seriously and so it seems like more of a joke than an honest opinion.

I take you haven't been on the Internet that long or something. Look at the new posters that have come on this thread, calling Neo-Nazis the resistance. Go read stormfront or thedonald subreddit on reddit (which actually started out as a joke). These guys are actually serious.

NinjaKirby wrote: »

I guess for me I'm just not seeing this alt-right boogie man that you seem to be finding around every corner.

I mean, as far as I can tell "alt-right" kind of just seems like a re-branding of far-right and in online circles it genuinely feels like alt-right just means American-right.

2 new posters in this thread already supporting Neo-Nazis. They seem to show up pretty quick to these kind of threads.

NinjaKirby wrote: »

I'm just feeling like there are certain topic now where "SJW" and "Alt-Right" are the only options and anyone with even a different opinion is likely to find themselves snarkily branded one or the other.

The far-right is certainly on the rise and eventually that will be a serious concern but it comes across like you are just chomping at the bit to connect any kind of disagreement to Neo-Nazis, Alt-Right in some way.

And it seems to me that, you are happy to ignore the obvious, even while acknowledging that it will eventually be a problem. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Again, 2 new posters referring to Neo-Nazi terrorists as the resistance, and its what 5/6 pages into the thread. I think your being rather naive, considering the thread is about Neo-Nazis plotting to kill people, how is that not already a serious concern exactly?

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 02:05PM

Googled what you said and got nothing.

Link this please

Billy86 · 11-05-2017 02:11PM

NinjaKirby wrote: »

Billy86 wrote: »

It sounds awful similar to the "see you in April/May" comments we were hearing a few months ago about Le Pen supposedly winning the French election being a foregone conclusion, and the same for Wilders in the Netherlands before her.

OR you are looking for something that isn't there?

Just, it seems like you are really reaching there and I reckon you don't reach like that unless you REALLY want to make a specific connection.
Why though? To prove the poster is right wing?

It's weird. The original article here was about a right wing plot. Nobody can argue with that. I didn't see anyone supporting these actions.

The thread really became about branding people posting opinions or ideas in the thread as right wing. That's the obsession now, it seems. Finding the right wing, alt-right, Neo-Nazi, Fascist behind every avatar.

The irony of you calling that a reach! :pac:

At no point did I call him anything of the sort. I said we heard the exact same about wilders and Le Pen. Or are you denying that.

But may Kew tour can let us know which party he was referring to as winning the election in a Germany he claims is due civil unrest due to immigration? And if he wasn't referring to immigration, what was he referring to as causing civil unrest that is relevant to the story in the op?

Billy86 · 11-05-2017 02:12PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Billy86 wrote: »

I'm fully aware of what you were referencing. It sounds awful similar to the "see you in April/May" comments we were hearing a few months ago about Le Pen supposedly winning the French election being a foregone conclusion, and the same for Wilders in the Netherlands before her.

So yeah, see you in September.

Ah ffs are you serious?

Jesus talk about low balling.

So was Roy Keane a racist now too when he told Viera "see you out there"

**** me I have heard it all now

Where did I call you a racist?

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 02:27PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Where did I call you a racist?

You said I made a quote from Le Pen.

Dont start pretending now, you know exactly what you were trying to say. Now show me where this is their Big Slogan

Sonics2k · 11-05-2017 02:28PM

So, a group of soldiers have been arrested under charges of assassination/terrorism and possibly instigating a full blown war, and yet people are coming in here calling Merkel the new Hitler.

Is this Europe's version of "What about her emails!?"?

Sonics2k · 11-05-2017 02:30PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

You said I made a quote from Le Pen.

Dont start pretending now, you know exactly what you were trying to say. Now show me where this is their Big Slogan

No, he made a sarcastic comment about your post.

Loads of the alt-right fools on Reddit were saying things like "See you in May" to people who did not support Le Pen and her politics.

Not everything is a personal attack.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 02:32PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

No, he made a sarcastic comment about your post.

Loads of the alt-right fools on Reddit were saying things like "See you in May" to people who did not support Le Pen and her politics.

Not everything is a personal attack.

Lol

Billy86 · 11-05-2017 02:34PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Billy86 wrote: »

Where did I call you a racist?

You said I made a quote from Le Pen.

Dont start pretending now, you know exactly what you were trying to say. Now show me where this is their Big Slogan

I pointed out that we were hearing all about le pen winning the French election being a supposedly foregone conclusion. So no, I did not call you a racist in any way shape or form, no matter how eager you seem to be to twist logic into playing the victim and offended snowflake.

wes · 11-05-2017 02:42PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

So, a group of soldiers have been arrested under charges of assassination/terrorism and possibly instigating a full blown war, and yet people are coming in here calling Merkel the new Hitler.

Is this Europe's version of "What about her emails!?"?

Except even dumber!!!

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 02:50PM

Billy86 wrote: »

I pointed out that we were hearing all about le pen winning the French election being a supposedly foregone conclusion. So no, I did not call you a racist in any way shape or form, no matter how eager you seem to be to twist logic into playing the victim and offended snowflake.

Link please

Billy86 · 11-05-2017 02:55PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Link please

Link for what?

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 02:56PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Link for what?

It being "Le Pen Quote"

Your words not mine

Jelle1880 · 11-05-2017 03:05PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

So, a group of soldiers have been arrested under charges of assassination/terrorism and possibly instigating a full blown war, and yet people are coming in here calling Merkel the new Hitler.

Is this Europe's version of "What about her emails!?"?

More like Europe's version of Pizzagate.

Billy86 · 11-05-2017 03:09PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

It being "Le Pen Quote"

Your words not mine

OK, now you go and link to where I said it was a Le Pen quote first. Because right now it seems like you're making stuff up as you go.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 03:10PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Is that a Le Pen quote?

Ok here it is look

Billy86 · 11-05-2017 03:12PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ok here it is look

That's not me saying it is a Le Pen quote. You should read more carefully in future.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 03:12PM

Billy86 wrote: »

That's not me saying it is a Le Pen quote. You should read more carefully in future.

Lol. So whats it saying? Sorry thought we were speaking in English

Billy86 · 11-05-2017 03:17PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Lol. So whats it saying? Sorry thought we were speaking in English

It's me sarcastically asking if that is a Le Pen quote. You do know the difference between a sarcastic question and an actual statement of fact, correct?

So no, you cannot show me claiming what you said I claimed. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you couldn't tell the difference and weren't actively and purposefully trying to twist words in order to misrepresent my post, because the latter is generally frowned upon.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 03:20PM

Billy86 wrote: »

It's me sarcastically asking if that is a Le Pen quote. You do know the difference between a sarcastic question and an actual statement of fact, correct?

We could all say we are being Sarcastic.

A old wink or symbol might have helped.

I will do that sometime im pushed into corner

Billy86 · 11-05-2017 03:21PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We could all say we are being Sarcastic.

A old wink or symbol might have helped.

I will do that sometime im pushed into corner

I thought the question mark itself would have been a hint enough that it was not a statement of fact. That's what their function tends to be.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-05-2017 03:29PM

It can mean quiet few things when its suits people.

Lets move on

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