BREAKING, Well done Gardai

Little CuChulainn · 08-05-2017 10:11PM

infogiver wrote: »

Guy on RTÉ radio the other morning said Interpol is basically MI5

It isn't. Neither is Europol. He probably watched too many Bond movies.

snowflaker · 08-05-2017 10:11PM

MikeenRonanJr wrote: »

If they tried any of that Solidarity/AAA/PPP whatever they're called would be marching on the streets against the RACIST FASCIST GOVERNMENT and Colm O'Gorman would be weeping on Claire Byrne so quick your head would spin.

It is lacking things like due process and a fair hearing etc

koumi · 08-05-2017 10:15PM

Olive Acidic Stove wrote: »

Nice diversion there. Never saw that coming.

I'm sorry, I realise it might not be the right place to ask I was just genuinely curious, I forgot about it until I opened this thread, there are a few garda threads in AH tonight and it just got me thinking.

end of the road · 08-05-2017 10:24PM

Gatling wrote: »

If they happen to hold citizenships ,revoke and expel from the country with no right to appeal or leagal aid ,show evidence in the special criminal court and straight on to a flight,

I'm sure a few other countries would be happy to interrogate them at proper facilities

can't be done as it's against due process. the special criminal court deprives them of a proper jury trial, and it's our job to interrogate them in a fair and just manner to insure any information is accurate.

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

Water board the living sh1t out of them. We can't afford to go easy on any of these savages.

can't be done, it's against their human rights and it's asalt and breaks international law.

Beyondgone · 08-05-2017 10:27PM

end of the road wrote: »

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can't be done, it's against their human rights and it's asalt and breaks international law.

The Gards have pepper spray. Use that instead.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 08-05-2017 10:30PM

end of the road wrote: »

can't be done as it's against due process. the special criminal court deprives them of a proper jury trial, and it's our job to interrogate them in a fair and just manner to insure any information is accurate.

can't be done, it's against their human rights and it's asalt and breaks international law.

Fair and just manner? Human rights? What about everyone else's human rights not to be killed by terrorists, or the reasonable expectation of safety? Those ****ets should be shot on sight

learn_more · 08-05-2017 10:32PM

Details are scant on this at the moment but surely they got a tip-off from one of the European intelligence agencies and the Guards simply located and arrested them.

As for the points about europol and MI5 they all effectively do the same thing now which is largely computer/internet/phone surveillance.

Joeseph Balls · 08-05-2017 10:34PM

We all critisize the Gardai, sometimes justified and I'm probably one of the first to do it, but they deserve credit where it's due. Fair play to them for it today.

listermint · 08-05-2017 10:37PM

Terrorists charges can be anything from planning some attacks to promoting terrorism online to fund raising.

Judging on comments alot on here assumes some form of local attack.

No evidence of that.

The_Valeyard · 08-05-2017 10:41PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why, did people think they'd just randomly raided a gaff and happened to get lucky?.

Ah, ya git!!! I read that, burst out laughing and woke herself up.

AnMuinteoirOg · 08-05-2017 10:41PM

snowflaker wrote: »

How can we trust the figures???

You can verify them yourself. You could google the case and check was somebody convicted in court

Johngoose · 08-05-2017 10:45PM

Nourin O' Sullivan keeping her job!:-)

CPTM · 08-05-2017 10:46PM

ygolometsipe wrote:

Hmmm... which one are you? A. A Garda? B. Married to a Garda? C. A criminal looking for props? D. All of the above? E. Drunk

F. Sarcastic?

end of the road · 08-05-2017 10:55PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Fair and just manner? Human rights? What about everyone else's human rights not to be killed by terrorists, or the reasonable expectation of safety?

those human rights have been upheld by people being arrested, and due process will now take place which will mean said rights will continue to be upheld. rights can only be upheld via due process.

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Those ****ets should be shot on sight

can't be done as murder is illegal. unless they are armed with weapons when confronted then the normal process of arrest has to take place.

infogiver · 08-05-2017 11:06PM

snowflaker wrote: »

prob Jacob Rhys Mogg or somesuch... I'm are the French/Germans etc have pretty good intelligence ops

JRM wouldn't be anyone RTE would be interested in interviewing

uck51js9zml2yt · 08-05-2017 11:17PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Surprised we don't have a terrorist lives matter group here.

Will you show a little patience...give it a few more hours to form;)

hatrickpatrick · 08-05-2017 11:23PM

MikeenRonanJr wrote: »

If they tried any of that Solidarity/AAA/PPP whatever they're called would be marching on the streets against the RACIST FASCIST GOVERNMENT and Colm O'Gorman would be weeping on Claire Byrne so quick your head would spin.

I don't know where the allegation that the hard left supports ISIS comes from, but it's baseless and moronic in the extreme to say the least. Can you cite a single source for your allegation? Bonus points if you can specifically relate it to the parties you referenced above.

If these people are proven in a fair trial to be the scumbags they are alleged to be, I for one will not just support but demand either their imprisonment for a long, long time if they're Irish citizens, or their deportment if they are not.

Beanntraigheach · 08-05-2017 11:29PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I don't know where the allegation that the hard left supports ISIS comes from, but it's baseless and moronic in the extreme to say the least. Can you cite a single source for your allegation? Bonus points if you can specifically relate it to the parties you referenced above.

If these people are proven in a fair trial to be the scumbags they are alleged to be, I for one will not just support but demand either their imprisonment for a long, long time if they're Irish citizens, or their deportment if they are not.

One's a Moroccan, the other's Algerian.
Send them home.

hatrickpatrick · 08-05-2017 11:45PM

Beanntraigheach wrote: »

One's a Moroccan, the other's Algerian.
Send them home.

Well then if they are found guilty, by all means revoke their citizenship and get them the f*ck out of our country.

Now that's coming from a far left poster, again I'd like to ask where exactly the evidence is for the far left's supposed support of Isis?

dublinman1990 · 08-05-2017 11:52PM

Brilliant news; Well done to the Gardaí & for anyone tasked with providing their intelligence.

Hope they will get deported soon.

Roger Hassenforder · 09-05-2017 01:38AM

They've been realised without charge and a file is being sent to the DPP...

Kristopherus · 09-05-2017 01:51AM

Source???

McDermotX · 09-05-2017 02:14AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

They've been realised without charge and a file is being sent to the DPP...

Good job by the Guards. Efficiency at it's finest.

hatrickpatrick · 09-05-2017 02:28AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

They've been realised without charge and a file is being sent to the DPP...

IMO one of the most moronic aspects of the Irish justice system - for particular crimes, the Gardaí should be able to remand people in custody until the DPP makes a recommendation, and should be able to therefore mark that case as requiring the DPP's urgent consideration. This would apply to essentially all serious violent crime, particularly organised violent crime. It's absurd that somebody suspected of a dangerous, violent crime and with the potential for re-offending cannot be instantly remanded in custody at the discretion of their arresting Gardaí, and that their cases to the DPP cannot be fast tracked in this manner.

Your Face · 09-05-2017 02:36AM

The Gardai have plenty of experience catching terrorists only to have them walk after a short sentence.

eurasian · 09-05-2017 02:39AM

Completely against revoking anyone's citizenship unless they lied in the application (and this is the only legitimate reason for revoking a citizenship of a Citizen.)
This whole hysteria of revoking citizenship for this for that is very dangerous and could potentially devalue citizenship and turn it into something that ultimately belongs to authorities/government and not to the people.

Any criminal,no matter what crime is, must stand before law as a citizen and face consequences as a citizen.

I read the article. They're foreigners. But even if they weren't, the subject of citizenship is very sensitive and have to be dealt with carefully.

09-05-2017 05:31AM

eurasian wrote: »

I read the article. They're foreigners. But even if they weren't, the subject of citizenship is very sensitive and have to be dealt with carefully.

Under UN law, it's illegal to make someone stateless. Citizenship, for me, is very straight forward. You commit a serious offence, you're gone, even if you have kids and your wife was born here. Stop them from further contaminating the gene pool.

Phoebas · 09-05-2017 07:20AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

If these people are proven in a fair trial to be the scumbags they are alleged to be, I for one will not just support but demand either their imprisonment for a long, long time if they're Irish citizens, or their deportment if they are not.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Well then if they are found guilty, by all means revoke their citizenship and get them the f*ck out of our country.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Now that's coming from a far left poster, again I'd like to ask where exactly the evidence is for the far left's supposed support of Isis?

You want to let them go if they're not originally Irish, with what basically amounts to a slap on the wrist.

CalamariFritti · 09-05-2017 07:30AM

Am I missing something? Cos there isn't a single word on what those guys supposedly did.

Suckler · 09-05-2017 07:36AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Fair and just manner? Human rights? What about everyone else's human rights not to be killed by terrorists, or the reasonable expectation of safety? Those ****ets should be shot on sight

Sounds exactly like the impromptu tabloid/bar stool verdicts that were deemed suitable for the Birmingham Six/Guildford Four/McGuire Seven etc. It wasn't long ago statements like that would be levelled at Irish people. I'd prefer a world with fair legal process.

BREAKING, Well done Gardai

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