How does an area become trendy

Dr Crayfish · 08-05-2017 05:17PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Stoneybatter?

Ringsend?

Stoneybatter still has an element of scum in the place. I used to live there. Lots of heroin addicts etc around.

Floodzie · 08-05-2017 05:24PM

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Has anywhere in Dublin actually been properly gentrified, I mean to the extent of somewhere like Notting Hill? I don't think so.

Well, this is Dublin not London so an exact comparison would be difficult.

I am old enough to remember when Ranelagh and Rathmines were full of laundrettes and flats, and Harold's Cross wasn't a great area either. Portobello has also made an astonishing turnaround in 30 years.

Most areas 45 mins walk from the city centre (at least on the Southside which is where I'm from) are quite pricey now, lots of trendy cafes etc springing up.

A friend of mine got mugged around the corner from the Apache Pizza on Harrington Street in the early 90s. The pizza place has now been replaced by the much more upmarket Brother Hubbards, and 3-bed houses, on the street he got mugged on, sell for 700k+. So I guess that's gentrification, and I'm glad it has happened. I am not nostalgic about South Dublin pre-gentrification at all.

JupiterKid · 08-05-2017 05:43PM

First, a gay couple snap up a lovely old house in the area.

Then all else follows. By the time the Starbucks has opened the area is no longer officially trendy and the homesteaders move on elsewhere.

Hard as it is to believe inner city living in Ireland only became popular just over 20 years ago.

Ubbquittious · 08-05-2017 10:05PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

First, a gay couple snap up a lovely old house in the area.

Then all else follows. By the time the Starbucks has opened the area is no longer officially trendy and the homesteaders move on elsewhere.

Hard as it is to believe inner city living in Ireland only became popular just over 20 years ago.

It was very popular during the TB-ridden tenement building days of old

Richard Hillman · 08-05-2017 10:22PM

I have no idea how gentrification can be deemed as a bad thing. It is generally about places that are cheap to live but are also quite safe. Then supply and demand does its work.

There also seems to be a push to create a theory of gentrification when there isn't any to be seen. People Before Profit seem to be trying to tell everyone that Dun Laoghaire is being Gentrified. Dun Laoghaire, the formerly affluent town, now populated by Heroin addicts and Charity Shops. It's literally the exact opposite of gentrification.

Dr Crayfish · 08-05-2017 10:44PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Hard as it is to believe inner city living in Ireland only became popular just over 20 years ago.

You mean became popular for private renting/owning. Social housing has been there all along, but that lot aren't into flat whites and avocado toast.

Floodzie · 09-05-2017 09:47AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I have no idea how gentrification can be deemed as a bad thing. It is generally about places that are cheap to live but are also quite safe. Then supply and demand does its work.

There also seems to be a push to create a theory of gentrification when there isn't any to be seen. People Before Profit seem to be trying to tell everyone that Dun Laoghaire is being Gentrified. Dun Laoghaire, the formerly affluent town, now populated by Heroin addicts and Charity Shops. It's literally the exact opposite of gentrification.

Yes, Dun Laoghaire has slipped a bit - especially George's Street - but it's still a lovely place to live and visit.

C Montgomery Gurns II · 09-05-2017 10:11PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

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Hard as it is to believe inner city living in Ireland only became popular just over 20 years ago.

Is it?

The only non inner city Dubs I've ever met who live in what you would define as the inner city are either European professionals working in the multinationals with their language skills who refuse to live in the distant suburbs, or South American students crammed to the ceiling in share flats/ houses who live there out of convenience (as most tend to work in bars and restaurants in town). In my experience, if someone has the economic standing to drop 600K on a house they are moe likely to put it on a semi D on the southside, or a mansion in Wicklow, than to spend it on a renovated 2 bed cottage a stones throw away from the flats (obviously some people do buy these properties, but I'd still say they are few and far between and likely buy to let's- the rental income from an overcrowded inner city house is ridiculous)

I'd certainly agree that when you look at the asking prices on some homes in traditionally working class, rough rep areas (Crumlin, Drimnagh etc) that the price tag seems to scream gentrification- whether these are BTL investments largely would be another matter. I'm far from left wing or socialist but it pains me to see ex corpo properties with 380K price tags or 1600 per month rent on them. Certainly a lot of students and young country workers seem to live in those parts now.

09-05-2017 10:19PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

There also seems to be a push to create a theory of gentrification when there isn't any to be seen. People Before Profit seem to be trying to tell everyone that Dun Laoghaire is being Gentrified. Dun Laoghaire, the formerly affluent town, now populated by Heroin addicts and Charity Shops. It's literally the exact opposite of gentrification.

Yea?
Try to buy a 3 bed home around dun laoghaire!

How does an area become trendy

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