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Most underrated Cities in Ireland and why?

  • 29-04-2017 4:50am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭


    Most underrated Cities in Ireland and why?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,643 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Most underrated Cities in Ireland and why?

    Too many to choose from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Newry


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Limerick.

    It got a terrible reputation due to certain scumbag families.

    I spent time down there in UL (late 00s) and I loved every minute of it, great people and a great nightlife scene in the city.

    It's a place I'd love to live in again if the chance arose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    There are about 11 "cities" in Ireland as a whole and only 6 in the Republic OP......is that what you really want to know or are you extending it to other locations?

    Its going to be a mighty short thread if you only mean cities.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Waterford. Great location, great potential and nice people but held back for decades by a lack of real political clout.

    Galway is great but is a bit over-rated.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Limerick.

    It got a terrible reputation due to certain scumbag families.

    I spent time down there in UL (late 00s) and I loved every minute of it, great people and a great nightlife scene in the city.

    It's a place I'd love to live in again if the chance arose.
    Limerick is one of the most underrated Cities in Ireland by far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    Limerick is one of the most underrated Cities in Ireland by far.

    Always liked living in Limerick, great pubs and the people are great in general.

    It doesn't look great though, which is a crime given it's location on the banks of the Shannon. It always looked to me like it has its back turned to the river.

    Viewed from Treaty bridge or Courthouse the river is a fantastic setting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Aglomerado


    Limerick for me too. Good pub scene, lovely Riverside setting, beautiful university campus. Shame the city centre's gone downhill due to the proliferation of retail parks...(doughnut effect).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Limerick here also, beautiful city.

    Agree with other posters, has suffered in the past with the reputation of its two dodgy suburbs.... (Tipperary and Clare)... but is kicking on now. Impassioned people, and very welcoming. Open for business, top quality University, great parks, nature trails, the arts, culture, and some of the best roundabouts you'll see in Ireland, beautiful roundabouts. Lovely cod in Donkey Fords. Shannon airport neighbours, 2 hours to Dublin, little over an hour to Galway.

    Great place, truly is.

    Also a shout out to the medeival city of Kilkenny, only there two times, but nice spot.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Chain Smoker


    Jesus, didn't expect it to be so unanimous but yeah. I was never in Limerick before about 22 years of age but I was really quite surprised by how nice it was. Kind of regret not going to college there for sure.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    Major hard on for Limerick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭atticu


    OP, are you doing a school project on cities and counties in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭johndaman66


    Maybe I'm a wee bit biased but have to agree with the sentiment of the thread. The city did have a problem at one point with fueding families, and gained a bad reputation as a result, no doubt about that. Unfortunately and unfairly the reputation has stuck with some people but thankfully the more astute among us realise its no longer a problem of the same scale as before and I would suggest Limerick no longer has a crime problem any worse than any other city or densely populated area in Ireland. Odd its only Dublin people I have heard still calling Limerick stab city....might be an eye opener for those if they pulled their head out of the sand and compared the murder and knife attack rate in Limerick versus the capital over the past 5 years...


    Pity that certain parts in particular of centre of the city has to an extent being forgotten in recent years.... Wouldn't necessarily take much to turn that around but the emphasis on building and investing in retail park after retail park outside the city centre hasn't helped. On the plus there is a good ring road around the city, well signposted and easy to navigate which is a lot more than I could say for other cities and large towns in the Republic.


    City residents are for the very most part a very friendly and sociable people and also rightly so very proud of their city and its heritage. The bad element is small relative to the population and even in the "bad estates" the vast majority of the people are honest and decent. A very good and vibrant night life helped in no small part by the large student population no doubt. In all my time drinking in the city I never seen any trouble or fights apart from the usual guy who had too much to drink which you will get anywhere (In the British Isles for certain).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Newry

    Newry is a city only in name and was only given city status as some sort of prank that got out of hand I presume. The same with Lisburn. In fact in Northern Ireland Belfast is the only one that actually feels like a proper city.

    I've no idea if it's the same in the republic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Kilkenny... and don't say it's not a city.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    Yea, why the fluck do the nordies think that their mid-sized towns should be called cities? Dundalk is bigger than every one of their "cities", except Belfast. And we only count Dundalk as a town.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Yea, why the fluck do the nordies think that their mid-sized towns should be called cities? Dundalk is bigger than every one of their "cities", except Belfast. And we only count Dundalk as a town.

    Lisburn is a lot bigger than Dundalk. There are a lot of big towns up in NI -Bangor, Ballymena and Coleraine being a few.

    Newry being granted city status was done for political reasons. Basically to appease the Nationalists and Rebublicans after Lisburn got city status. In truth, neither deserve to be called cities. Derry is the only city in NI outside of Belfast.

    Armagh is a historical "city" too. Because of its two cathedrals. It is basically the Kilkenny of the North.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    Kilkenny... and don't say it's not a city.

    kilkenny may have some decent landmarks and history but socially it's the most over rated kip in ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Get my spoke in for Derry.

    Really has been transformed over the past decade or so.

    If you have never been, worth a visit. And although a little late, try to be there for the annual jazz and music festival which is currently running, there's a fantastic buzz around the city.

    Another bonus, it's cheap to visit, and eat and drink in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    I am surprised at the love for limerick. It has enormous potential but the city centre needs major renovation. It's ugly and it is getting worse, almost get the sense of an area in decay walking down O'Connell street. That said it would be worth doing a major renovation of the river front and the centre of limerick as it could be special.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    I'm going to say Dublin, because it's the only thing even remotely resembling a real international city on this island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Waterford. Great location, great potential and nice people but held back for decades by a lack of real political clout.

    Galway is great but is a bit over-rated.

    Waterford is great for a single man,the mother of my first born and I split up for good a few years ago. The break up wasn't an amicable one and my head was wrecked,wallowing in self pity.A few of my pals had set up shop down there so I fecked off out of Dublin and went down to join them. I spent the whole summer partying, out every night and coming home with college birds most nights,despite me being 31 at the time. The women were just falling from the trees. Like shooting ducks in a barrel. When I finally came back to Dublin, my confidence was fully intact again,and I was back to my own self again. And it didn't take long before I met the mother of my little daughter. She was/is way out of my league and before I had my stint in Waterford I never would have approached her. So yeah Waterford always holds a special place in my heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Imo Dublin 5 is pretty nice, close to City Centre Howth and Sutton. Great bus route 17a and the Malahide road which has a heap of buses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Rabbo


    I'm going to say Dublin, because it's the only thing even remotely resembling a real international city on this island.

    Do regale us more about your travels to foreign lands


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    Wexford referred to as a city in 1609 but quickly forgotten. ;)


  • Site Banned Posts: 6 smug_dude


    well no other city in ireland is close to qualifying as large

    for the population we have , we have remarkably few cities with over fifty thousand people

    new zealand has slightly less of a population than us yet seven of their cities are bigger than limerick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    I'm going to say Dublin, because it's the only thing even remotely resembling a real international city on this island.

    Agreed.Well about Dublin being underrated,but I'd regard Cork as a proper city too. Cork is also underrated. Especially if your into your music. Pubs are great,women are sexy and plentiful.But for some reason the stags and hens overlook the place in favour of Galway, Kilkenny or Waterford. Those places are just big towns,not cities.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,180 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Tuam. It's got a cathedral, so it must be a city, right. Never rated at all!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    Rabbo wrote: »
    Do regale us more about your travels to foreign lands

    I've never left Dublin 5, my spiritual and physical home


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    smug_dude wrote: »
    well no other city in ireland is close to qualifying as large

    for the population we have , we have remarkably few cities with over fifty thousand people

    new zealand has slightly less of a population than us yet seven of their cities are bigger than limerick

    Probably due to poor planning. Thanks to a crazy property boom and fairly lax planning laws and corrupt politicians and brown envelopes, on a recent drive from Dublin down to Kerry it seemed like pretty much the whole country is one big dispersed housing estate. Even around the peninsulas in the south-west there are god-awful American-style bungalows every hundred yards or so, most of which look empty. Yes the sprawl in American cities may be worse on many measures but at least they've still got vast spaces between the cities. A trip to 'rural' Ireland would be quite instructive to people who blithely suggest allowing people to build what they want where they want in the other countries such as the UK - that approach does have its merits but it could also quickly ruin many prized landscapes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    Agreed.Well about Dublin being underrated,but I'd regard Cork as a proper city too. Cork is also underrated. Especially if your into your music. Pubs are great,women are sexy and plentiful.But for some reason the stags and hens overlook the place in favour of Galway, Kilkenny or Waterford. Those places are just big towns,not cities.

    One of my best friends is from Cork but I've only ever passed through the place. Honestly I never really went to Cork City because I always had this unfounded belief deep down that people there didn't like people from Dublin and we weren't particularly welcome! This must be from stereotypes and anecdotes. Anyway I plan to visit at some stage this year, my mate promised me a good time down there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Limerick City has one the best most modern universities in Ireland campus and the grounds and the river walkways are stunning beautiful. it has one the biggest and best shopping centre in Ireland .and there is sum Great pubs like Nancy Blakes pub etc. plus a lot of People are very down to earth.so Limerick is the most underrated Cities by far .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Perhaps it's fair to say there is really only two cities on the island. Four half-cities, and four or five largish towns.
    The view from the ISS could confirm that. The 2nd largest city has the majority of the tallest buildings.

    VC island has around the same population as Dublin (city) within a very compact space, high rise could be the way to go.
    Would be nice to see a brand new ultra-modern eco-city built somewhere in the geographical center of the island, it wouldn't be cheap though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Get my spoke in for Derry.

    Really has been transformed over the past decade or so.

    If you have never been, worth a visit. And although a little late, try to be there for the annual jazz and music festival which is currently running, there's a fantastic buzz around the city.

    Another bonus, it's cheap to visit, and eat and drink in.

    Yeah, I'm going to second this.

    Derry is a great place, that new Ebrington Square is a great space, and well used for a variety of events, from funfairs, right through to large club/festival style music events.

    They have some solid people with a bit of vision in the planning area of the council.

    The quality of food/places to eat is punching well above it's weight, especially for the prices.

    And the people are friendly, fewer of the "chip on their shoulder/permanently pissed off" people I normally associate with Norn Ironers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Thebe


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    Kilkenny... and don't say it's not a city.

    Agree


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    Kilkenny is like two streets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    One of my best friends is from Cork but I've only ever passed through the place. Honestly I never really went to Cork City because I always had this unfounded belief deep down that people there didn't like people from Dublin and we weren't particularly welcome! This must be from stereotypes and anecdotes. Anyway I plan to visit at some stage this year, my mate promised me a good time down there.
    I find corkonians to have the same dry humour you get in Dublin,you just have to learn the lingo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Cashel is by far the most underrated city. Many people don't even acknowledge its city status.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Why was Waterford city left neglect since the 1980s and left behind when i went to school in the 1980s it was Dublin Cork Limerick Waterford Galway what happened?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    When you consider that Michael D Higgins, Mary Harney, Robert Molloy, Pat Rabbitte and Eamonn Gilmore have Galway origins then it could be said that political influence at ministerial level had a part to play in this faster growth of Galway when compared to Waterford.

    Waterford still has its Airport which Galway lost and both cities have motorway access to Irelands economic Ground Zero, Dublin.

    Waterford needs a University urgently in order to attract future industry south east.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    doolox wrote: »
    When you consider that Michael D Higgins, Mary Harney, Robert Molloy, Pat Rabbitte and Eamonn Gilmore have Galway origins then it could be said that political influence at ministerial level had a part to play in this faster growth of Galway when compared to Waterford.

    Waterford still has its Airport which Galway lost and both cities have motorway access to Irelands economic Ground Zero, Dublin.

    Waterford needs a University urgently in order to attract future industry south east.
    100 per cent agree Waterford city deserves a break and new Waterford City University now not tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    There are about 11 "cities" in Ireland as a whole and only 6 in the Republic OP......is that what you really want to know or are you extending it to other locations?

    Its going to be a mighty short thread if you only mean cities.

    There's only one city in Ireland according to the Indo :

    http://www.independent.ie

    "BREAKING Murder investigation launched after woman (30s) found dead in city apartment"

    'City'. The city. No precision needed. There are no more cities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Newry is a city only in name and was only given city status as some sort of prank that got out of hand I presume. The same with Lisburn. In fact in Northern Ireland Belfast is the only one that actually feels like a proper city.

    I've no idea if it's the same in the republic.

    I'm not joking here, Lisburn and Newry got city status in a raffle of some sort.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Stonedpilot


    Gets bad rap but Like all cities in Ireland Waterford is run down but has its spots, decent pubs and cheaper than over rated cities like Galway.
    Id say its under rated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    Gets bad rap but Like all cities in Ireland Waterford is run down but has its spots, decent pubs and cheaper than over rated cities like Galway.
    Id say its under rated.

    There's something about Waterford which puts it in a different category to other "cities" in Ireland but I can't put my finger on it. I don't know if that's due to infrastructure, lack of investment or some other factor but I think its a nicer place to live as a commuter, offering quality of living rather than say what's available in terms of commerce and industry in other cities. It's very sleepy and laid back and has an olde worlde feel about it, maybe Waterford should embrace that quality instead of trying to clamber up the lacking city status tree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    koumi wrote: »
    There's something about Waterford which puts it in a different category to other "cities" in Ireland but I can't put my finger on it. I don't know if that's due to infrastructure, lack of investment or some other factor but I think its a nicer place to live as a commuter, offering quality of living rather than say what's available in terms of commerce and industry in other cities. It's very sleepy and laid back and has an olde worlde feel about it, maybe Waterford should embrace that quality instead of trying to clamber up the lacking city status tree.

    The something that you are tying to put your finger on, is that it is a town, not a city. Which a lot of people, you included, clearly like. There is nothing wrong with being a town.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    The something that you are tying to put your finger on, is that it is a town, not a city. Which a lot of people, you included, clearly like. There is nothing wrong with being a town.
    yeah that would be it I guess and yep it is a perfect town size as there's enough of everything to make it comfortable yet not too claustrophobic like many small towns can be. :)


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