Cork GAA Discussion Thread

danganabu · 19-04-2017 10:35AM

Mahony0509 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/officialcorkgaa/status/854413234253836288
Brilliant win.

Absolutely, unfortunately I couldn't make it last night but talking to one of the Tipp players father this morning and he was saying that only for the Tipp goalkeeper it would have been a masacare, he was very impressed with the Cork midfield.

DuffleBag · 19-04-2017 11:11AM

Correct me if i'm wrong but havent we always been strong at u16/u17 grade and the step up is where the issue is

D'Agger · 19-04-2017 11:44AM

DuffleBag wrote: »

Correct me if i'm wrong but havent we always been strong at u16/u17 grade and the step up is where the issue is

Last year you had a very strong minor team underperform two years ago from what I can tell, lost out to the eventual champs in Killarney which is a tough place to go & got caught on the hop by a Kildare team that were average from what I could see when they played Kerry in Croker.

U21 - you've had some very good teams come through in recent years, this year probably being the weakest for a while, but there's definitely talent to bring through there to the senior setup. I don't think the u21 team last year has many world beaters, but there's raw materials to work with there.

Cork has a decent underage structure with good coaching, this doesn't translate up to the senior setups, which, to me, is a poor reflection of the coaching at those levels. Additionally, Junior is taken for granted in Cork in a big way. Junior & u21 should be seen as feeder teams for the senior & guys should be brought in from here to train with the seniors to be looked at, but also to encourage young players & fellas togging for junior, that they could be brought through. I think Kerry have used this to good effect the past few years - I believe Jordan Kiely from Crokes (who's u21 this year) togged with the juniors last year - more minutes in a Kerry jersey for him, more experience - things like that help players at u21 & senior level.

As has been mentioned a few times on this thread - there was a development plan brought out for Cork GAA that went nowhere which is a huge pity. I'm banging the same old drum - but having good players, good coaches or good facilities isn't enough anymore - you need a structured plan to make use of what you have & build on that. This is where the county board comes in and unfortunately for Cork GAA supporters - you've been massively let down by that body for many years now.

DuffleBag · 19-04-2017 11:52AM

I was more talking about hurling. I think it was two years ago we wont u14/15/16 and 17 comps in the hurling but i understand your point. It still stands.

danganabu · 19-04-2017 12:23PM

DuffleBag wrote: »

I was more talking about hurling. I think it was two years ago we wont u14/15/16 and 17 comps in the hurling but i understand your point. It still stands.

Couple of factors here to be considered though, last years Minor Hurlers were in all probability the second best team in the country, were desperately unlucky to have to play Tipp in the Munster Semi which if effectively the only knock out game in Munster!

The U14/15/16 competitions are a bit of a red herring to be honest, the entire competitions are played over one weekend, sometimes one day and are not a true reflection, Cork from what I seen the last few years have been fitter and managed their panels better that the opposition, that said there is obviously some very good talent there.

Interestingly not one single county has ever won the Tony Forristal All Ireland and went on to win the corresponding minor All Ireland which says it all really.

willietherock · 19-04-2017 01:39PM

DuffleBag wrote: »

I was more talking about hurling. I think it was two years ago we wont u14/15/16 and 17 comps in the hurling but i understand your point. It still stands.

this yrs minors are the 1st of the proper development squads. They are strong from there down. The U16 Arrabawn is good predictor of who is strong at minor. Cork have been repeatedly poxed with Munster minor semi final draws recently which hasn't helped. A change in fortune is due.

The_Kew_Tour · 19-04-2017 03:00PM

Great to hear that result last night.

Never a guarantee, but always gives you hope for the future. Cause we ain't going get much in short term in either code. Will be another quiet year.

pakie ed · 20-04-2017 11:53PM

Maybe it is the same in every county, but so few make the senior team from minor. Cork won a all Ireland minor football in 2000. Only 1 player was on the 2010 All Ireland senior, that was Noel O Leary. Do players just get too much of it.

zetecescort · 22-04-2017 04:08PM

Ladies footbal league semifinal Cork 1-10 Dublin 0-6 HT

zetecescort · 22-04-2017 04:56PM

Cork 1-16 Dublin 0-13 FT

zetecescort · 23-04-2017 08:24AM

Camogie league final v Kilkenny live on TG4 at 1:30 today

zetecescort · 23-04-2017 02:04PM

Cork 0-4 Kilkenny 1-6 HT. Fowards finding it very hard to win any ball.

The White Feather · 23-04-2017 02:31PM

Regardless of the result, handpassing it into the net should be banned in the womens game as well. Impossible to stop.

Kiilkenny player just ran with it in her hand to get a goal!

zetecescort · 23-04-2017 02:48PM

Cork 0-9 KK 2-7 FT. Never looked like getting a badly needed goal.

ShamoBuc · 23-04-2017 04:08PM

Kk second goal was a bit of a joke. Thought there was a foul first, but the kk player certainly over carried. Big turning point as Cork were coming into it at the time and there was only a goal in it at the end.
Thought we aided the congestion of players around the kk goal throughout the second half. We should have pulled a few players outside the 21 and shot for points instead of briging it so close to where kk had the numbers. Plenty of blocked shots could have been points if we didn't try working it so close for a goal. Our subs did well and probably should have started. Kk will be the team to beat for sure but this Cork team will push them close.

The White Feather · 23-04-2017 05:14PM

Yeah it was a strange game as I thought Cork were the way better team but Kilkenny got goals at the right times. Cork started well and KK got a goal straight away. Then Cork were coming on strong again and they got another goal and that one was ridiculous.

Like ShamoBuc said, I couldn't understand why Cork kept running into the centre going for goal. 10 mins left and we were 4 points down.Cork were charging straight at groups of players like it was the final seconds.Just pop them over and it would have been almost a draw with a few mins left.

After the second goal went in, Cork switched things at the back as before that it always seemed to end up 2 v 2.

Kilkenny defend in massive bunches and work hard to close off any attempts at goal. To me they are perfect for defending a lead but if Cork were in front they would have been in big trouble.

Paudie should have been saying go down the wings and take your points. Too heavy traffic in the centre.Cork had a lot of wides and shots dropping short too.

D'Agger · 23-04-2017 08:40PM

The Barrs took a bit of a tonking last night, having been in front at half time, although it was a lead that massively flattered them. Nemo with an 11 point win seem fairly impressive. Clyda unlucky to lose to Douglas by a point AET

ShamoBuc · 23-04-2017 09:53PM

Thought Seandun acquitted themselves very well with the win v St. Nicks

overmantle · 23-04-2017 10:40PM

Hopefully our camogie ladies will learn a few things from today's match, for when they meet kilkenny in the coming months.

pakie ed · 24-04-2017 05:02PM

Wer Cork Senior Hurlers well beaten by Clare in a cllange at the Weekend..Any details.

zetecescort · 24-04-2017 08:37PM

The Cork team to play Waterford in the Munster U17 Hurling Championship Final tomorrow Tuesday 25th April @ 7pm in Fraher Field, Dungarvan has been announced as follows.

Cork U17 Hurling Team.

1. Luke Donovan - Na Piarsaigh

2. Eoin Roche - Bride Rovers

3. Ciaran Nyhan - Ballinascarthy

4. Ronan Sheehan - Mallow

5. Jack Hallahan - Cloyne

6. Conor O'Callaghan - Dromtarriffe - Captain

7. Aaron Walsh Barry - Carrigtwohill

8. Daire Connery - Na Piarsaigh

9. Sean Twomey - Courcey Rovers

10. Brian Roche - Bride Rovers

11. Colin O'Brien - Granard Gaels

12. Tommy O'Connell - Midleton

13. Owen McCarthy - Inniscarra

14. Joe Stack - Castlemartyr

15. Declan Hanlon - Blarney

Subs

16. Eoin Davis - St. Catherines

17. Jamie Copps - Ballyhea

18. Sean McCarthy - Fermoy

19. Ronan McCarthy - St Oliver Plunketts

20. Liam Ryan - Inniscarra

21. Kevin Finn - Midleton

22. Kian Farmer - Midleton

23. Killian Murphy - Sarsfields

24. Denis McBarron - Carrigaline

Selectors: John Considine - Manager (Sarsfields), Sean Crowley (Killeagh), Donal Burke (Midleton)

zetecescort · 24-04-2017 08:42PM

Ladies football league final v Donegal fixed for Parnell Park Sunday May 7th at 4pm

Rebel1987 · 25-04-2017 12:47PM

Aidan Walsh dislocated his shoulder playing for Kanturk last Saturday evening.

DuffleBag · 25-04-2017 03:48PM

Rebel1987 wrote: »

Aidan Walsh dislocated his shoulder playing for Kanturk last Saturday evening.

Duhallow

Rebel1987 · 25-04-2017 04:02PM

It was in the intermediate championship match between Kanturk and Mitchelstown, not that it really matters.

zetecescort · 25-04-2017 07:31PM

Cork 1-8 Waterford 1-9 HT. Cork leading all through thanks to a goal in the 2nd minute until Waterford got a goal of their own 5 minutes before HT.

KrustyUCC · 25-04-2017 08:04PM

Cork up 1-12 1-10 45 min

zetecescort · 25-04-2017 08:06PM

2nd Cork goal. Come on lads, see it out from here

zetecescort · 25-04-2017 08:16PM

3-13 to 1-11 into injury time

3-13 to 1-12 FT. well done to all involved. great to get our hands on silverware again

ShamoBuc · 25-04-2017 08:29PM

Good to win Something!

Delanys had a good win in the first of the jafc games, 1-14 v 0-04 v Bishopstown.
Having lost the final aet last year and winning it the year before, we should be in contention this year again.

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