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Leaving dog poo bags behind - danger to horses

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    There is a massive difference between horse and dog poo. Horse poo is effectively "clean" dirty. It's grass. It is way less likely to carry pathogens that are harmful to humans.

    So you'd be happy with kids eating it would you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭sillysmiles


    pilly wrote: »
    So you'd be happy with kids eating it would you?


    Grew up on a dairy farm. Honestly it wouldn't bother me. I wouldn't sit now to a plate of it, but if it was your hands I wouldn't have to go and wash straight away as I would with dog poo. I see horse and cow **** in the same catagory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Ashbx


    tk123 wrote: »
    Ah come on - you could have carried it to the nearest bin or if you don't have one on your route home put in in your own bin when you get back. We've taken poos in the car and pulled over to bin them before. I even got a grabber thing in Dealz for my friend so she could drop the poos out of the car window into the bin without having to get out of the car! :pac:

    A spot I've been forced to walk in as Bailey is restricted is FULL of poo. :mad: There's 5 bins in a 5 min (max) radius of this little walkway but the same scum let their scummy little dogs (it's small dog poo) poo all over the place. :mad::mad::mad:

    Unfortunately the nearest bin to that park is 45 mins walk away.....in my own home. There is not one bin between my house and the park. I have two dogs who pull like trains and wear head harnesses so can be quite sensitive and one is quite leash reactive so I need my hands free to have a dog in each hand, so I am not carrying the poo in the bag that will be banging off my hand etc. just because the council couldn't be bothered to put an extra bin or two into a public park or empty the one they have. I have in the past tied my dogs up and put the poo into the bin in the playground and I got nothing but filthy looks from parents for daring to put dog poo in one of the only two bins in the park. So yes, if the bins are full, its going on top!

    Now, I would never leave it at the side of the road and if im in the car yes I throw it in the boot and put it in my own bin. And as I said in my other post, if I don't have a bag or a bin to put it into, I get a stick and use the stick and flick approach. But unfortunately, walking home with the poo in my hands isn't an option when I do this particular walk. And dog walkers shouldn't be expected to have to do that either.

    I clean up after my dogs all the time....my point is more bins are required especially in recreational areas!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Grew up on a dairy farm. Honestly it wouldn't bother me. I wouldn't sit now to a plate of it, but if it was your hands I wouldn't have to go and wash straight away as I would with dog poo. I see horse and cow **** in the same catagory.

    So why is everyone so terrified by dog poo? What makes it so much more toxic? I don't buy the fact that they eat meat.

    I don't mean that to sound rude, I'm learning a lot here, just think maybe there's an over-reaction to dog poo sometimes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭granturismo


    pilly wrote: »
    So why is everyone so terrified by dog poo? What makes it so much more toxic? I don't buy the fact that they eat meat.

    I don't mean that to sound rude, I'm learning a lot here, just think maybe there's an over-reaction to dog poo sometimes.

    Our microbial gut flora is determined by what we eat.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2649005/

    Look up toxocariasis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    loyatemu wrote: »
    this makes a lot more sense than putting it in plastic and adding it to the waste cycle.

    The plastic dog poo bags are made of biodegradable stuff.

    +1 for horse and cow poo being ok. I used to drive to Stepaside to buy two-year-old horse manure for the garden; one day I stood on the brakes and two or three of the six bags opened up and joined me in the front of the car. No strong smell, and when I got home it was just a question of brushing the car out, not a stain left, and a day with the windows open aired it out.

    In Dublin in the old days when horses and carts went by, everyone would rush out with dustpan and brush to capture the manure for their roses!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Ashbx wrote: »
    I cant speak for New Forest in England or rural Ireland, but the amount of bins in Dublin is ridiculously low....especially in the likes of parks/mountains etc....where people generally walk their dogs.

    Just as an example, in my local park in Dublin there are 9 ways to enter this park and only ONE of these entrances has a bin (which is usually full). The other bin is located in the playground, somewhere a dog walker is not allowed go into. Im hardly going to ask a child to dispose of my poo bag! There's been a handful of times that in this park I have had to leave my bag ontop of the bin....I have had no other choice. So the County Council seriously need to consider installing more bins in public areas.

    I saw the article you are referring to and by no means would I ever through it into a private field. I would use the stick and flick approach that someone else mentioned here!
    When all else fails blame someone else :rolleyes: How about taking it home with you and putting it in your bin, it isn't rocket science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    Actually horse poo is not as benign as you'd think.
    I'd a family member treated for giardia believed to have been pick up while gardening land horses had been grazed on & it's not a fun parasite to have to deal with :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭sillysmiles


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    When all else fails blame someone else....
    There is something to be said for expecting a certain level of public services and bins do seem like a fairly reasonable thing to expect.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,751 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


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    The OH's family's dog loves cow pats, he'd eat them all day if you let him off :pac:

    Someone's been letting their dog **** on our front lawn and leaving it there the last few weeks, in an estate where lots of kids play outside. Pretty sure it's not a stray as it only seems to happen once a week or so. It's infuriating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    This boils my piss. Why on earth would someone go to the effort of picking it up and putting it into a bag, to only leave the bag there.
    Or worse, hang it on a tree.

    You'd have been better just leaving it there, at least it would be gone after a day or two.

    I wouldn't mind but where I see it most, there's a number of poo bins around.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    The OH's family's dog loves cow pats, he'd eat them all day if you let him off :pac:

    Someone's been letting their dog **** on our front lawn and leaving it there the last few weeks, in an estate where lots of kids play outside. Pretty sure it's not a stray as it only seems to happen once a week or so. It's infuriating.

    Are you sure it's not a horse or cow that's doing it in your garden. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Triangle


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    The OH's family's dog loves cow pats, he'd eat them all day if you let him off :pac:

    Someone's been letting their dog **** on our front lawn and leaving it there the last few weeks, in an estate where lots of kids play outside. Pretty sure it's not a stray as it only seems to happen once a week or so. It's infuriating.

    +1, a neighbour of ours allowed her dog to do the same in our front. No matter how many times we brought it up. Some have absolutely no regards for others.
    I've trained mine to stay out of others gardens on my walks, not a big thing to do tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    There's a special place in hell for people that hang it off of trees. It's like Xmas on some walks.

    In rural Scotland, they have the stick and flick rule too.
    On other walks where I'm doing a loop I'll "plank" it somewhere and grab it on the way back if it happens to be too far away from a bin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Triangle wrote: »
    +1, a neighbour of ours allowed her dog to do the same in our front. No matter how many times we brought it up. Some have absolutely no regards for others.
    I've trained mine to stay out of others gardens on my walks, not a big thing to do tbh.

    I wouldn't hesitate for a second to pick it up and put it in front of her door if she didn't want to come and clean it up.

    Someone has taken to letting their dog poo outside our door, I've never caught them, but I have a fair idea of who it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Its a danger to a lot more than just horses.

    Saw a dog poopoo bag left on a park bench this morning.

    Really ........just so disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    The funny thing about the dog poo bag, and dogs in general....

    Is that there is plenty of dog crap on the streets; and plenty of bags of dog poo - but I rarely see an owner actually leave it behind.

    Which says two things
    (I) Most dog owners are responsible - and I think this has to be acknowledged.
    (II) There is an element of subterfuge. While no one is looking, I will just throw it here. Similarly with dog poo.....bring the dog out for a quick walk at 11.30pm - who will notice.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Its a danger to a lot more than just horses.

    Saw a dog poopoo bag left on a park bench this morning.

    Really ........just so disgusting.

    Disgusting yeah but I don't think it was a danger to you now. :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    There is something to be said for expecting a certain level of public services and bins do seem like a fairly reasonable thing to expect.

    The person I quoted found a bin but it was full so they took the liberty of leaving the bag of dog sh1t on top of the bin and then blame the government. There can't be bins everywhere dogs are walked you need to use a bit of cop also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    I did Park Run in Belleek in Ballina two weeks ago, about 130 people running, and I met a woman with her dog, she let the dog crouch and poo on the path, surrounded by people running, she was right next to the dog. She just waited until it finished, and then they walked on together, without picking it up. I did offer her a bag, but she obviously didn't hear me. I have missed out on PBs by stopping and picking up poo on these runs, much to my disgust ;)

    In the same place I had just started an 8 mile run with one of my dogs and he went to the toilet. I picked it up and left the bag there, off the path, a cyclist then came after me shouting about picking up my rubbish. If he had asked me politely, I would have also politely explained that I was doing a long run, and would pick it up on the way back, rather than carry it all that way, which is obviously what I did, and I always have to bring it home from there, as there are no bins. But I do seem to be one of the very few dog walkers there that bother to pick it up.

    I am noticing signs now in really rural locations, just along little roads, telling dog walkers to pick up, I guess it is maybe to do with the cows in the fields.

    Stick and flick is great, as long as you don't pick up a stick that has already been used to flick :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Ashbx


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    The person I quoted found a bin but it was full so they took the liberty of leaving the bag of dog sh1t on top of the bin and then blame the government. There can't be bins everywhere dogs are walked you need to use a bit of cop also.

    That was me you quoted and yes I agree there cant be bins everywhere...I never once said there should be. I said in recreational places....a public park that has various football fields, a dog park, a playground and tennis courts should have more than one bin in the entire park.

    My dog eats poo like its chocolate cake so trust me, I am the first person to tell someone else to pick up their poo and do not advocate leaving it left there. In the handful of occasions I have left it on the bin, I have already picked it up and bagged it. I am not going to unbag it just to feck it into the bush. So in this instance, yes I will be leaving on top of the bin and will continue to do so.

    People are saying here they leave the bag and pick it up after the walk. Sure that's pretty much the same as dumping it there. Anyone could walk, touch, consume this bag while you are on the walk and find it gone (in some childs hands or horses mouth) when they return to get it. So this really isn't a solution either in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Ashbx wrote: »
    That was me you quoted and yes I agree there cant be bins everywhere...I never once said there should be. I said in recreational places....a public park that has various football fields, a dog park, a playground and tennis courts should have more than one bin in the entire park.

    My dog eats poo like its chocolate cake so trust me, I am the first person to tell someone else to pick up their poo and do not advocate leaving it left there. In the handful of occasions I have left it on the bin, I have already picked it up and bagged it. I am not going to unbag it just to feck it into the bush. So in this instance, yes I will be leaving on top of the bin and will continue to do so.

    People are saying here they leave the bag and pick it up after the walk. Sure that's pretty much the same as dumping it there. Anyone could walk, touch, consume this bag while you are on the walk and find it gone (in some childs hands or horses mouth) when they return to get it. So this really isn't a solution either in my opinion.

    I'd love to see the child and/or horse that can get up the side of Arthur's Seat in Edinburgh or one of the Bens in the Highlands!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Ashbx wrote: »
    My dog eats poo like its chocolate cake so trust me, I am the first person to tell someone else to pick up their poo and do not advocate leaving it left there. In the handful of occasions I have left it on the bin, I have already picked it up and bagged it. I am not going to unbag it just to feck it into the bush. So in this instance, yes I will be leaving on top of the bin and will continue to do so.

    People are saying here they leave the bag and pick it up after the walk. Sure that's pretty much the same as dumping it there. Anyone could walk, touch, consume this bag while you are on the walk and find it gone (in some childs hands or horses mouth) when they return to get it. So this really isn't a solution either in my opinion.

    If a child touches the bag, nothing bad will happen, the poo is inside the bag, not smeared on the outside of it. No horses or cows there. If anyone would like to eat a bright yellow bag of dog poo, well good luc k to them. I have never heard of a dog eating a poo bag full of other dog's poo.

    If your dog is eating other dog's poo that quickly and frequently, you really need to get to the vet and find out what is going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,972 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    muddypaws wrote: »
    If a child touches the bag, nothing bad will happen

    Did you know that the same is true with regards to human poo in the bushes and in poopy nappies and baby wipes left littered around the park in the warmer months? It seems the children in our park aren't at risk of these so it's ok to leave them around! They will hunt down dog poo though and go blind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 DogLover33


    Sounds like something that needs to have public attention diverted to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Just to add while dog poo is bad for cattle cat poo is bad for sheep and can cause toxoplasmosis abortion storms.

    Ashbx - how about tying the bags to the non reactive dogs lead


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    ganmo wrote:
    Just to add while dog poo is bad for cattle cat poo is bad for sheep and can cause toxoplasmosis abortion storms.


    Don't know what people can do about cat poo though. Awful lot of wild cats around where I live.


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