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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match
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its simply true though some here are just looking for any chance relevant or not to piss and moan about the guy and why would he care what any of us think? he is an amazing athlete and a great promoter of his brand... more luck to him I sayDARK-KNIGHT wrote: »I'm sure he is reading this and crying a river thinking what do the lads on boards think of me.... he will dry the tears with a roll of money.... more luck to the guy no matter what he has done it all and in super fast time....[/QUOTE]
I am a Conor fan, like massive. In saying that Conor himself if he was being honest would probably admit he didn't clear out the division! He had more interest in making big money than doing fights with Lamas and Edgar. He wanted to make big $$ and headline MSG and now he wants to fight Floyd instead of defending the Lightweight belt. I mean I can't blame him for that one loss and he isn't going to have these big opportunities but he did not fully clear out the featherweight division, the way like GSP did a few years ago. There is definitely still people who possibly could have beat Conor that he didn't fight down there.
I highlighted the part of the post above I thought was stupid. First of all we aren't here to discuss Conor incase he is reading, do you think I care if Rooney is reading when I post about Manchester United? I dont give a sh!te how much money Conor makes, I am a fan of his fighting.... whether he has 10k or 10m in his bank makes 0 difference to me. Yes Conor did do some cool sh!t in super fast time and he is an amazing fighter but we are free to discuss him without people saying "He dont care what some lads on boards think", "he will dry his tears with his money".
Anyway war Conor, I am a big fan. I hope he stops with this crap of the Floyd fight and actually you know...... defends a belt for once
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I also holds almost 10k less than the Vegas Arena and MSG.martyos121 wrote: »It's a 30 minute drive from LA city centre (as are most of its suburbs/outskirts cities). I'm not saying it's happening but it can so easily be marketed as an LA event if they go down that route. McGregor is not bigger than Los Angeles.
I'd also guess that Vegas and MSG lends themselves much easier to glitz glamour and high roller tickets.
The Honda centre looks like a shopping centre from the 80s
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I also holds almost 10k less than the Vegas Arena and MSG.
I'd also guess that Vegas and MSG lends themselves much easier to glitz glamour and high roller tickets.
The Honda centre looks like a shopping centre from the 80s
I don't know where you're pulling those numbers from but they are incredibly far off. MSG is 20,000, T-Mobile is the same and Honda Centre is 19,800, so essentially the same size and not half of it as you pointed out.
The part about the high-rollers has some truth to it of course because Vegas is full of them 24/7 and there's no shortage of money in NYC, but the problem with that argument is that it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, because 1. It's practically in LA which has no shortage of high rollers and rich folk itself and 2. It's (hypothetically) a McGregor fight in a market he hasn't tapped into yet. They could charge UFC 202 prices (205 was an anomaly, I don't think it's posssibly to match those prices wherever they go next due to the landmark nature of the event).
There's no evidence at all that he's going to fight there and my guess is that he'll fight in Vegas next, all I was stating early is that it's 100% feasible and that there isn't, as wonder said "more chance of the Loch Ness Monster appearing" than there is of McGregor fighting in the Honda Centre. Also, they tend to hold the fights inside the buildings, so I don't think many will be put off by what it looks like from the outside.
I can definitely see the resemblance though, red brick is not a good look for a pro sports arena. 0 -
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martyos121 wrote: »I don't know where you're pulling those numbers from but they are incredibly far off. MSG is 20,000, T-Mobile is the same and Honda Centre is 19,800, so essentially the same size and not half of it as you pointed out.
The part about the high-rollers has some truth to it of course because Vegas is full of them 24/7 and there's no shortage of money in NYC, but the problem with that argument is that it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, because 1. It's practically in LA which has no shortage of high rollers and rich folk itself and 2. It's (hypothetically) a McGregor fight in a market he hasn't tapped into yet. They could charge UFC 202 prices (205 was an anomaly, I don't think it's posssibly to match those prices wherever they go next due to the landmark nature of the event).
There's no evidence at all that he's going to fight there and my guess is that he'll fight in Vegas next, all I was stating early is that it's 100% feasible and that there isn't, as wonder said "more chance of the Loch Ness Monster appearing" than there is of McGregor fighting in the Honda Centre. Also, they tend to hold the fights inside the buildings, so I don't think many will be put off by what it looks like from the outside. I can definitely see the resemblance though, red brick is not a good look for a pro sports arena.
Put it this way - When the UFC brought Lesnar v Cain to the Honda Center, that was arguably the biggest fight of the year in the UFC. Despite that, they sold 14,300 tickets for a Gate of $2.2 million. That remains the Honda Center Record Gate.
To me that indicates the market simply isn't there for a Conor fight in LA.
Conor's last 4 gates:
194: $10.1 million
196: $8.1 million
202: $7.9 million
205: $17.7 million.
Even if you take away MSG as an aberration, there's no way the UFC can price the next Conor fight any less than aiming for an $8 million gate.
It'd be pure madness to be virtually guaranteed $8 million minimum in Vegas at T-Mobile to then suddenly price it at $2.3 million in Anaheim. If the UFC truly believed the Anaheim market was strong, they'd have priced Lesnar v Cain far higher than a $2.3 million gate.
TL;DR: Ok I'll take it back, it's SLIGHTLY more likely than the Loch Ness Monster but it'd require an absolute miracle for them to pull that off and if they do indeed put on a Conor fight in LA i'll be seriously impressed with the UFC (and you
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I was going off the numbers Honda centre did for Rousey. 10k was a bit dramatic, was more like 7.5k less that MSG capacity.martyos121 wrote: »I don't know where you're pulling those numbers from but they are incredibly far off. MSG is 20,000, T-Mobile is the same and Honda Centre is 19,800, so essentially the same size and not half of it as you pointed out.
I know if you google Honda centre capacity, it says 19,800. I was assuming that was the concert capacity, and they lost the difference in a UFC set up. (T-Mobile and MSG being purpose built for fights).
They've have 4 UFC's at the Honda centra. Just checked all the numbers. And Rouesy wasn't the highest. Maybe the number is closer to 20k and none of those events sold out. In which case capacity might not be the issue.
UFC 157: Rousey vs. Carmouche 13,257
UFC on Fox: Velasquez vs. dos Santos 11,607
UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Velasquez 14,856
UFC 076: UFC 76: Knockout 13,770
Agreed. A McGregor event in LA is targeting buyers from Hollywood, not Inglewood.The part about the high-rollers has some truth to it of course because Vegas is full of them 24/7 and there's no shortage of money in NYC, but the problem with that argument is that it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, because 1. It's practically in LA which has no shortage of high rollers and rich folk itself and 2. It's (hypothetically) a McGregor fight in a market he hasn't tapped into yet. They could charge UFC 202 prices (205 was an anomaly, I don't think it's posssibly to match those prices wherever they go next due to the landmark nature of the event).
I was more getting at the fact that the interior likely affects the run down 80s look of the exterior. Maybe not.Also, they tend to hold the fights inside the buildings, so I don't think many will be put off by what it looks like from the outside. I can definitely see the resemblance though, red brick is not a good look for a pro sports arena.
T-Mobile is new and shiny. Easier to scalp people.
Although, venues, seats, the city etc is all small change compared to the PPV money.0 -
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Jesus, Wonder made me look idiotic slow there.
In my defence, I'm at work and sometimes have to actually do some.:D:D
You've a better excuse than I have to be on here then, have to be up in around 2 hours and I won't be home for another 14 after that. I just really love talking about the Honda Centre. 0 -
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Jesus, Wonder made me look idiotic slow there.
In my defence, I'm at work and sometimes have to actually do some.:D:D
Also in your defence I don't sleep very much and clearly have too much time on my hands.
In separate news, I still think I was right that the record for wives/girlfriends in the corner of UFC Fighters was set the other night with the appearance of Missus Alvey and Missus Perry.
Tecia Torres v Rose Namajunas also had girlfriend/boyfriend cornering (Rocky Pennington and Pat Barry) but purely for female partners I think 2 is the record for one card.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »Is there any news on the fight? Whatever that fight may be
Unconfirmed reports at this stage, but there is a fight, probably.
We don't know when or where it will happen, or who is fighting.
But a fight is a definite possibility.0 -
I have to make up for being caught napping Wonder, so;
You are comparing fights from 2010 with 2016. Market is now totally different. Conor has blown the roof on gate records. What was the UFC gate record in 2010? I've no idea, but it wasn't $8 million.
It makes more sense compare it with 2010 PPVs in Vegas. Like the big July PPV.
UFC 116: Lesnar vs. Carwin Jul 3, 2010
MGM Grand Garden Arena
Gate: $2,053,990
So Lesnar went form $2 million in Vegas in July, to $2.2 in the Honda centre two months later. :eek:
Gate Record as of 2010 was Chuck v Tito UFC 66 ($5.4 million). Obviously UFC 129 in Toronto smashed that for GSP v Jake Shields ($12.1 million) but that had over 55,000 Canadians in there.
To be fair, the slight increase for Brock probably had something to do with getting battered for a round and coming back to beat Carwin and getting people excited
I have a seriously hard time believing the UFC are going to go to Anaheim with Conor, Woodley, DC and Jon Jones. Surely they would prefer to keep one of those fights back for T-Mobile or the November MSG card?
Look what happened the last time they stacked the decks....UFC 205 and arguably 207 were epic cards but it's had a 6-month knock-on-effect of some less-than-amazing cards.0 -
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