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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • #4382
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    myshirt wrote: »
    It is the Sunday World that is glamourising their lifestyle.

    Ah yeah, sure getting pics together standing on the bonnets of two hugely expensive Rolls Royces is playing down the flamboyance of the lifestyle.


  • #4383
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Ah yeah, sure getting pics together standing on the bonnets of two hugely expensive Rolls Royces is playing down the flamboyance of the lifestyle.
    rented Rolls Royces :rolleyes:;)


  • #4384
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    PREG1967 wrote: »
    rented Rolls Royces :rolleyes:;)

    Lol, we wouldn't have known that only the owner is a fan of Floyd.


  • #4385
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Lol, we wouldn't have known that only the owner is a fan of Floyd.
    Was it not always obvious? He was in England for the races.
    He hardly squeezed a pair of Rolls' onto a tiny private plane.


  • #4386
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    Mellor wrote: »
    Was it not always obvious? He was in England for the races.
    He hardly squeezed a pair of Rolls' onto a tiny private plane.

    Why would he do that to someones property anyway?


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  • #4387
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    myshirt wrote: »
    Articles like that are more dangerous than anything. They are seeking to sensationalise, provoke, insinuate, and look down on people. He went to Aintree. They went to Aintree. What was Conor supposed to do? Pretend he is not from Crumlin?

    Why wasn't the article about Conor being in Time magazine?

    The reality is Conor grew up in a different socioeconomic class than he is in now. He worked very hard, had good parents, and is an inspiration in terms of the discipline and dedication he applies to his life. Others went different paths. Some evil b#stards. Some just misfortunes that just fell. The bottom line is you don't forget where you came from, and also you can't. You shoot the breeze with these people. You recognise your commonality. You respect the environment you shared. Conor is not a f#cking politician on a mission to heal the world and be the moral compass. What these people do they don't do on Conors instruction or guidance. It's not Conors job to judge them or call them out. That's for the judicial system. Conor takes people as they are and as he meets them and as he knows them. Even God himself is reserving his position on judgment until the end of days.

    I can tell you, from working with a lot of young offenders and their families in Limerick, respect is a big word. Conor is actually doing the right thing by not separating himself from the reality of what his community and circumstances were. His message thus speaks to anyone. Work hard, respect yourself, respect others, don't judge anyone, and rise up out of your situation.

    A lot of young men in those communities view themselves as a piece of sh't just like those other pieces of actual sh't. It's not a good message from Conor to disassociate​ himself from where he came from and each and any person that makes up that place.

    If you know anything about human nature, you will know you don't change people by looking down on them and forgetting where you came from. Conor is a very smart guy.

    Perhaps I'm being naieve here but those type of people who are in these gangs work hard to undermine a community and stop it from growing, don't they? Conor is about family and being loyal, destabilised communities destroy families.


  • #4388
    [Deleted User]
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    PREG1967 wrote: »
    Why would he do that to someones property anyway?

    He paid down a massive deposit and the owners of the cars seemed to love the publicity... They came out and said us here at *insert company name* own these cars, not Conor etc etc they got great promotion out of it. Not saying what Conor did is right but there was no damage done to the cars and they got his deposit + promotion.


  • #4389
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He paid down a massive deposit and the owners of the cars seemed to love the publicity... They came out and said us here at *insert company name* own these cars, not Conor etc etc they got great promotion out of it. Not saying what Conor did is right but there was no damage done to the cars and they got his deposit + promotion.
    So the owner should be happy about all of this?
    Well they aint-

    Luxury car firm owned by Lord Aleem threatens Conor McGregor with legal action over Rolls-Royce

    https://www.google.ie/amp/www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/connor-mcgregor-aleem-rolls-royce-12885865.amp


  • #4390
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    PREG1967 wrote: »
    Why would he do that to someones property anyway?

    He paid to rent them, a lot I'd guess. If he damaged them, his deposit/credit card would be charged.
    PREG1967 wrote: »
    So the owner should be happy about all of this?
    Well they aint-

    Luxury car firm owned by Lord Aleem threatens Conor McGregor with legal action over Rolls-Royce

    https://www.google.ie/amp/www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/connor-mcgregor-aleem-rolls-royce-12885865.amp

    Or maybe he's just lapping up the free publicity for his previously unknown company.
    Don't take everything at face value. Like the Aldo psycho-analysis stuff.


  • #4391
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    Mellor wrote: »
    He paid to rent them, a lot I'd guess. If he damaged them, his deposit/credit card would be charged.



    Or maybe he's just lapping up the free publicity for his previously unknown company.
    Don't take everything at face value. Like the Aldo psycho-analysis stuff.
    Do you say that about all crime victims?


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  • #4392
    ASOT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,764 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Crime victims hahahahahahhaha


  • #4393
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    myshirt wrote: »

    1. Why wasn't the article about Conor being in Time magazine?

    2. You shoot the breeze with these people. You recognise your commonality. You respect the environment you shared. It's not Conors job to judge them or call them out. That's for the judicial system.

    3. It's not a good message from Conor to disassociate​ himself from where he came from and each and any person that makes up that place.

    4. If you know anything about human nature, you will know you don't change people by looking down on them and forgetting where you came from. Conor is a very smart guy.

    https://www.sundayworld.com/news/mcgregor-named-on-time-magazine-s-top-100-list

    1. Above ^ Full Sunday World article on Conor being named in Time Magazine as #1 in the Pioneer Category.

    2. A 4-day-bender with Liam Byrne's henchmen, some of whom are suspected of murders, is not bloody "shooting the breeze". The only likely shooting happening around these people is being shot at or doing the shooting.

    3. It's a bloody good message to disassociate yourself from ruthless drug dealers who will have you shot or ran from the country for owing them 2 grand on tick. Who will knock on your mothers door threatening her child if they don't pay up.

    4. Nobody is asking Conor to look down on the ordinary people of Crumlin or to front a drug awareness campaign or even to condemn the evil operation some of these 'mates' run.

    A very smart guy in many ways, for sure, and a hero of mine but I'm not going to let anybody tell me that a 4-day-bender on drink & drugs alongside some of the worst scum to ever come out of this country is a "smart idea" 3 weeks before his partner gives birth.

    Nobody is looking for Conor to be a role model to children. He punches people in the face for a living. This isn't unique to Conor either I've made similar criticisms of Khabib, who also likes to hang around with suspected murderers and hardcore drug dealers.

    Can we not live in a world where it's a no-brainer to condemn world class athletes for hanging around with drug dealers and thugs?


  • #4394
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    PREG1967 wrote: »
    Do you say that about all crime victims?

    Ricky-Gervais-Holding-in-Laughter-Arms-Crossed.gif


    Honest, you genuinely made me burst out laughing there.
    I can't decide if you are being extremely funny, or are actually serious.
    Victim of what crime exactly?


  • #4395
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    Mellor wrote: »
    Ricky-Gervais-Holding-in-Laughter-Arms-Crossed.gif


    Honest, you genuinely made me burst out laughing there.
    I can't decide if you are being extremely funny, or are actually serious.
    Victim of what crime exactly?
    nothing funny about crime:

    Criminal Damage Act 1971
    Malicious Damage Act 1861
    Aggravated criminal damage

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_damage_in_English_law


  • #4396
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    This isn't unique to Conor either I've made similar criticisms of Khabib, who also likes to hang around with suspected murderers and hardcore drug dealers.
    To be fair, the war criminal, and tyrannical dictator is a few steps down the morality stairs from a drug dealer.

    Can we not live in a world where it's a no-brainer to condemn world class athletes for hanging around with drug dealers and thugs?
    That's fairly obvious tbh.

    But, serious question, do you think its a bigger deal that he's hanging out with them generally, or because he is doing it so visibly?
    The suggestion being that publicity is a justification on some level


  • #4397
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    PREG1967 wrote: »
    nothing funny about crime:

    Criminal Damage Act 1971
    Malicious Damage Act 1861
    Aggravated criminal damage

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_damage_in_English_law
    Accept that the car wasn't damaged.
    Bizarrely that's a perquisite for criminal damage.


  • #4398
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    Mellor wrote: »
    Accept that the car wasn't damaged.
    Bizarrely that's a perquisite for criminal damage.

    "How do you know there was no damage
    PET are assessing the Rolls-Royce for any damage."

    https://www.google.ie/amp/www.bloodyelbow.com/platform/amp/2017/4/13/15284776/ufc-mma-news-conor-mcgregor-liverpool-luxury-car-hire-firm-rolls-royce-legal-action


  • #4399
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    PREG1967 wrote: »
    "How do you know there was no damage
    PET are assessing the Rolls-Royce for any damage."

    https://www.google.ie/amp/www.bloodyelbow.com/platform/amp/2017/4/13/15284776/ufc-mma-news-conor-mcgregor-liverpool-luxury-car-hire-firm-rolls-royce-legal-action
    Well, the obvious reply to that is. How do you know there was damage?

    If they were pressing charges, they'd have to have gone to the police. Not done their own investigation. I assume it was checked for damage the minute he returned it (like any rented car tbh).
    I can't help but get the impression you are projecting a bit here.


  • #4400
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    Mellor wrote: »
    Well, the obvious reply to that is. How do you know there was damage?

    If they were pressing charges, they'd have to have gone to the police. Not done their own investigation. I assume it was checked for damage the minute he returned it (like any rented car tbh).
    I can't help but get the impression you are projecting a bit here.
    But he didnt return it personally his goons did and they didnt get their deposit back so the case is still open for charges etc


  • #4401
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Mellor wrote: »

    But, serious question, do you think its a bigger deal that he's hanging out with them generally, or because he is doing it so visibly?
    The suggestion being that publicity is a justification on some level

    To be honest, as cynical as this sounds, it's the visibility of it that bothers me so much.

    Let's call a spade a spade, the reason Tony McGregor moved the family to Lucan was to get Conor away from these boys. Conor, Tony and John Kavanagh have all alluded to (without ever spelling it out) that Conor was either doing/dealing drugs and getting mixed up in bad situations.

    I don't think it's a wise idea to be hanging around with the Byrnes or Kinahans full stop but that's purely on the grounds they are all likely targets to be shot and stray bullets don't respect fame or fortune.

    But my bigger problem is the visibility and hypocrisy of it. Both Conor and John have taken pops at Floyd for his domestic violence history and called him a scumbag. Yet here we have Conor literally hanging around with lads who the Gardai openly suspect of involvement in murders, violent crime, drug dealing, extortion.

    The moral high ground only works if you actually take the moral high ground.

    It doesn't make Conor guilty-by-association, of course. But I've now counted 23 separate articles in a 4-year-period where variations of this sentence are in the article:

    "There is no suggestion Conor McGregor has any involvement in criminality".

    When you're having to write that disclaimer 23 times over 4 years, that tells me Conor is hanging around with too many scumbags.


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  • #4402
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    His Louis V shirt used to be a teflon vest, anyone that ''knows'' him pre ufc and cagewarriors like myself knows this.


  • #4403
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    To be honest, as cynical as this sounds, it's the visibility of it that bothers me so much.

    Let's call a spade a spade, the reason Tony McGregor moved the family to Lucan was to get Conor away from these boys. Conor, Tony and John Kavanagh have all alluded to (without ever spelling it out) that Conor was either doing/dealing drugs and getting mixed up in bad situations.

    I don't think it's a wise idea to be hanging around with the Byrnes or Kinahans full stop but that's purely on the grounds they are all likely targets to be shot and stray bullets don't respect fame or fortune.

    But my bigger problem is the visibility and hypocrisy of it. Both Conor and John have taken pops at Floyd for his domestic violence history and called him a scumbag. Yet here we have Conor literally hanging around with lads who the Gardai openly suspect of involvement in murders, violent crime, drug dealing, extortion.

    The moral high ground only works if you actually take the moral high ground.

    It doesn't make Conor guilty-by-association, of course. But I've now counted 23 separate articles in a 4-year-period where variations of this sentence are in the article:

    "There is no suggestion Conor McGregor has any involvement in criminality".

    When you're having to write that disclaimer 23 times over 4 years, that tells me Conor is hanging around with too many scumbags.
    Boxing match in the regency targeted by hutches last year, mma fight in some other place next year? mcgregor is now a legitimate target of the underworld


  • #4404
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    PREG1967 wrote: »
    But he didnt return it personally his goons did and they didnt get their deposit back so the case is still open for charges etc
    The is no "case open" as far as I'm aware. That would require the police.
    Car rental companies are notorious for screwing people over on deposits. Means nothing really.


    This guy calls himself "Lord" and charges people crazy money to use the luxury cars his daddy bought.
    It has nothing to do with criminal damage an everything to do with ego.
    When Conor posted the picture, he posted his own standing on two cars. :rolleyes:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BSydYm5Du3v/

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTJ_BsijgZM/
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    To be honest, as cynical as this sounds, it's the visibility of it that bothers me so much.
    Not cynical at all imo. And it's entirely what I was getting at.


  • #4405
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Gamebred wrote: »
    His Louis V shirt used to be a teflon vest,
    For all the non-stick cooking he did back in the day


  • #4406
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Simple rule of thumb, if the 'mates' you're partying with are wearing bullet-proof-vests, then it's probably not a great idea.


  • #4407
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Anyone who frequented Barcode back in the day will know what went on, these people arent just people that happen to be in liverpool at the same time.


  • #4408
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/855781801557733378


    I see he's back pushing the fitness system, flogging a dead horse with this crap.


  • #4409
    PREG1967
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Anyone who frequented Barcode back in the day will know what went on, these people arent just people that happen to be in liverpool at the same time.
    The bowling or the classy waterfall?
    http://www.dailyedge.ie/barcode-2411286-Oct2015/


  • #4410
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Anyone who frequented Barcode back in the day will know what went on, these people arent just people that happen to be in liverpool at the same time.

    Ha! To be fair it had some serious pool tables upstairs and the Chinese....


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  • #4411
    The Ayatolla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,209 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    He announced Charlie Ward is fighting at UFC Scotland.


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