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Adam Johnson pleads GUILTY

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  • #722
    mansize
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    She was jailed after the sentence was appealed btw


  • #723
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,276 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    mansize wrote: »
    She was jailed after the sentence was appealed btw

    You are correct, thanks...hadn't seen that. :o

    But again, one wonders how the judge arrived at the original sentence.


  • #724
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/21/adam-johnson-secretly-filmed-prison-abuse-victim
    Adam Johnson, the disgraced former England footballer, has been secretly filmed in prison laughing about his conviction for sexually assaulting a 15-year-old fan.

    In a video published by the S*n, the ex-Sunderland midfielder dismissed his crimes as “fcuk all” and said he would have been let off with a caution if he was “Joe Public”.

    Responding to a fellow prisoner who said Johnson did not rape his victim, the former footballer said: “No, I wish I fcuking did for six years.”


  • #725
    Mr.H
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,861 ✭✭✭Mr.H


    ok for some reason I was thinking it was the Ched Evans case


    Bloody footballers and their women:o


  • #726
    rob316
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    Stitched up by that rag.


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  • #727
    AGC
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    rob316 wrote: »
    Stitched up by that rag.

    Good enough for the scum bag.


  • #728
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Yeah... when the S*n stitches up a pedophile, you have to wonder who's side you're on... Tricky one.

    That said, how did the manage to get a snitch in the first place and who smuggled the recording equipment insIde? Security issue, right there methinks....

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #729
    brevity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,048 ✭✭✭brevity


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

    That said, how did the manage to get a snitch in the first place

    Knowing the Sun, it was probably one of their reporters doing time for hacking phones or some such.


  • #730
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    rob316 wrote: »
    Stitched up by that rag.

    This is nothing to do with the paper itself. Yes it is a rag, like all tabloids and if you ask me it is a bit of a non story anyway. He is imprisoned now, if he wants to degrade himself in private, let him. I'm sure he is a psychological and emotional mess at this stage.


  • #731
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    This is nothing to do with the paper itself. Yes it is a rag, like all tabloids and if you ask me it is a bit of a non story anyway. He is imprisoned now, if he wants to degrade himself in private, let him. I'm sure he is a psychological and emotional mess at this stage.

    Yeah, it is - like I said, the lengths they went to to set him up. You have to wonder what kind of jounalist has this kind of an idea, what his motivations are (we're not talking social jystice here) and the determination to pull it off. Its not like they casually overheard the story.

    Not to mention the infringes of law they themselves have committed to get the story.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #732
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Yeah, it is - like I said, the lengths they went to to set him up. You have to wonder what kind of jounalist has this kind of an idea, what his motivations are (we're not talking social jystice here) and the determination to pull it off. Its not like they casually overheard the story.

    Not to mention the infringes of law they themselves have committed to get the story.

    The thread is about Adam Johnson. The news story is about Adam Johnson. The morals of papers and the infringements of law that journalists undergo to get a story is tertiary to the the thread.
    Why divert the thread to an anti-tabloid rant.

    As I said it is a non story anyway. He clearly doesn't think his crime merits his punishment (regardless of what we think) so is it surprising such comments would come from him in a male bravado way in such an environment


  • #733
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    The thread is about Adam Johnson. The news story is about Adam Johnson. The morals of papers and the infringements of law that journalists undergo to get a story is tertiary to the the thread.
    Why divert the thread to an anti-tabloid rant.

    As I said it is a non story anyway. He clearly doesn't think his crime merits his punishment (regardless of what we think) so is it surprising such comments would come from him in a male bravado way in such an environment

    Bevause its a valid point given the development.

    Othetwise, there is no point in continuing the thread - we all know who Johnson is and what he did. This changes nothing.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #734
    ShooterSF
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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Yeah... when the S*n stitches up a pedophile, you have to wonder who's side you're on... Tricky one.

    That said, how did the manage to get a snitch in the first place and who smuggled the recording equipment insIde? Security issue, right there methinks....

    Ephebophile no? Still yes. No good side to take!


  • #735
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Bevause its a valid point given the development.

    Othetwise, there is no point in continuing the thread - we all know who Johnson is and what he did. This changes nothing.

    So should every tabloid story be accompanied with a side story about how the tabloid attains information. You do realise phones are rampant in prison. It was hardly a covert mission to get a video of a famous prisoner when you know you could sell a story to a tabloid. The paper didn't set it up I would imagine, but they bought the footage when someone approached them with it. Probably been other attempts to sell footage but with no substance for a story.


  • #736
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    So should every tabloid story be accompanied with a side story about how the tabloid attains information. You do realise phones are rampant in prison. It was hardly a covert mission to get a video of a famous prisoner when you know you could sell a story to a tabloid. The paper didn't set it up I would imagine, but they bought the footage when someone approached them with it. Probably been other attempts to sell footage but with no substance for a story.

    Oh, I wouldn't believe any of that for a second.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #737
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Oh, I wouldn't believe any of that for a second.

    ??

    What exactly wouldn't you believe! Of course there is a chance that they set him up but it is more likely the other way and I wouldn't call it a lot of effort to record him with easy accessible phones, in fairness.


  • #738
    [Deleted User]
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    Ugh, of all the sources


  • #739
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,893 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    To be fair, I don't get how anything he said is news. When he fought the case the whole way did people assume he had accepted that the punishment was fitting the crime?


  • #740
    Oat23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,738 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    CSF wrote: »
    To be fair, I don't get how anything he said is news. When he fought the case the whole way did people assume he had accepted that the punishment was fitting the crime?

    People seem to be bothered by the part where he says he wished he had done more with the girl if he was going to get 6 years. It was obviously a dark joke but sure we can't tell jokes these days.


  • #741
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,220 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Oat23 wrote: »
    People seem to be bothered by the part where he says he wished he had done more with the girl if he was going to get 6 years. It was obviously a dark joke but sure we can't tell jokes these days.

    Whether a joke or not, it certainly suggests a lack of remorse, which would likely affect his ongoing attempts to get a reduced sentence.

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  • #742
    Lyle Lanley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Lyle Lanley


    Don't think an illegal video will be taken into account.


  • #743
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Lyle Lanley wrote: »
    Don't think an illegal video will be taken into account.

    Well, there's nothing for it to be taken into account for. But it might influence things like parole and/or probation conditions.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #744
    One_Of_Shanks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭One_Of_Shanks


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    So should every tabloid story be accompanied with a side story about how the tabloid attains information. You do realise phones are rampant in prison. It was hardly a covert mission to get a video of a famous prisoner when you know you could sell a story to a tabloid. The paper didn't set it up I would imagine, but they bought the footage when someone approached them with it.

    No offence, but you need to brush up on what The Sun have done in the past and are capable of because it contradicts most of what you said there.

    There is a genuine reason why people are bringing it up and it's not to defend Johnson, it's just a valid point.
    I wouldn't put anything past them.

    Either way Johnson is in jail where he should be.


  • #745
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Lyle Lanley wrote: »
    Don't think an illegal video will be taken into account.

    Well, there's nothing for it to be taken into account for. But it might influence things like parole and/or probation conditions.

    It wouldn't.


  • #746
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    One_Of_Shanks wrote: »
    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    So should every tabloid story be accompanied with a side story about how the tabloid attains information. You do realise phones are rampant in prison. It was hardly a covert mission to get a video of a famous prisoner when you know you could sell a story to a tabloid. The paper didn't set it up I would imagine, but they bought the footage when someone approached them with it.

    No offence, but you need to brush up on what The Sun have done in the past and are capable of because it contradicts most of what you said there.

    There is a genuine reason why people are bringing it up and it's not to defend Johnson, it's just a valid point.
    I wouldn't put anything past them.

    Either way Johnson is in jail where he should be.

    Excuse me? Elaborate on that post! Enlighten me as to what I need to "brush up " on?!!


  • #747
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    I am well aware of phone hacking if that is the thing I "need to brush up on".

    All I am saying it is for a different thread.


  • #748
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,893 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Oat23 wrote: »
    CSF wrote: »
    To be fair, I don't get how anything he said is news. When he fought the case the whole way did people assume he had accepted that the punishment was fitting the crime?

    People seem to be bothered by the part where he says he wished he had done more with the girl if he was going to get 6 years. It was obviously a dark joke but sure we can't tell jokes these days.
    Actually yeah that's horrific to be fair. It's a dark joke if me or you make it, I don't know what terms to use to describe it when someone who actually groomed a minor says it, because even if he's also joking, he's also probably serious.


  • #749
    One_Of_Shanks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭One_Of_Shanks


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    I am well aware of phone hacking if that is the thing I "need to brush up on".

    All I am saying it is for a different thread.

    Wasn't trying to offend you at all fella. It maybe looked that way in black and white but genuinely wasn't meant that way.

    When I said brush up on your history about the lies they've told and things they've done yeah the hacking would be one of them but nowhere near top of the list.

    Like you said, it's all best left for another thread.

    My point was that I can completely understand the others discrediting anything that originates from that rag because they have a history of making up despicable lies and fabricating "evidence" and I just wouldn't put anything past them.


  • #750
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    The quote was what it was. The quote is the story and I'm my opinion is a pretty non story anyway. He clearly thinks what he has done doesn't merit the sentence which is his perogative. I just mean it's not shocking that a person that has done what he done, doesn't seem to understand the nature and extent of what he has done and is clearly now in a very bad state mentally given what he has thrown away would say something like that.

    So, as I said, iso it surprising that he has that mindset!

    I see they have more footage and quotes out now.

    Anyway he clearly is a messed up guy


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  • #751
    One_Of_Shanks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭One_Of_Shanks


    Oh well you won't catch me arguing with that. The point about the Sun was the only reason I quoted you to begin with but hey we'll leave it there.


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