Eir rural FTTH thread

damienirel · 20-04-2017 05:26PM

knipex wrote: »

I think, in fact I know you are completely wrong.

Romania does not offer FTTH in rural hinterlands and not even in all urban areas and AFAIK are not even contemplating it.

Sweden have 32% penetration FTTH

Singapore has a strong FTTH network but its basically a large city with a land mass about the size of the aran Islands and even there it isn't 100% universal rollout not even close... Also while its marketed at 1Gb its only 1Gb internal.. ie if you use external servers it limited to 150mb

Korea is about 80% penetration but Korea is an urban population.

What we are attempting to do in Ireland with both Eir and NBP is cutting edge, world class, best in class even so running 6 or 8 months late while not great isn't the end of the world.

FYI the US infrastructure is a disaster and falling apart. The freeway system is disintegrating, many rural roads are unpaved, hell even rural suburban areas have unpaved roads. The power infrastructure is a joke with half of California having annual blackouts. The telecoms infrastructure is a mess, far worse then ours.

Our infrastructure is far better than you appear to think. Perhaps I am older than you but the improvement in our infrastructure over the last 15 to 20 years, particularly the road and telecoms networks is unbelievable.. When you think of where we were in the 80's or even the 90's..

We aint perfect, there are many things wrong but we are getting better all the time.. If politics (and I mean populist protests) stayed out of it we would be even further ahead..

Yep - overall agree - but Eircon have been a disgrace in the past, I can see how people are annoyed with this "fibre to the press" s h i t e we've been listening to for the last 5 or 6 years with very little improvement. But yeah they seem to be turning a corner I will admit that - but it's not before time. Lets not start clapping ourselves on the back about the broadband infrastructure we have just yet.

JasonRyan · 20-04-2017 05:27PM

damienirel wrote: »

Seems to be very slow progress in Limerick - Clarina has been live for a few months and the 80 passed hasn't been bumped at all - surely there are more than 80 houses to pass there? The map has taken a step back in that it doesn't give the numbers that have to be passed in an exchange to meet the 300k/2018 plan, didn't it have them before?

Yeah, I remember seeing the number of premises listed before on the exchange map....

damienirel · 20-04-2017 05:29PM

daraghwal wrote: »

No, people just got it from the 100,000 announcement last year I think? Navi would know! Unless eir have started to use Navi's numbers seeing as they're probably more accurate

Yeah maybe that's where I saw it. True Navi's numbers are far more useful at giving the public a realistic idea of what to expect.

JasonRyan · 20-04-2017 05:31PM

Blogin wrote: »

Cappamore

You house does pass for FTTH on the eircode checker?
The fibre doesn't go very far down the Cappamore road out of Pallas, Dillons / Old Bridge is the stopping point on that road and barely in the Brackaile road before that bridge.
Seems daft that they are not linking these routes, Pallas to Oola, Pallas to Cappamore, Cappamore to Doon etc as there as loads of houses passed / left out....

damienirel · 20-04-2017 05:32PM

JasonRyan wrote: »

You house does pass for FTTH on the eircode checker?
The fibre doesn't go very far down the Cappamore road out of Pallas, Dillons / Old Bridge is the stopping point on that road and barely in the Brackaile road before that bridge.
Seems daft that they are not linking these routes, Pallas to Oola, Pallas to Cappamore, Cappamore to Doon etc as there as loads of houses passed / left out....

Seems to be the story with this rollout, hence the reason I'm very skeptical of the whole thing - but then if Eir do win the NBP it will make sense.

Blogin · 20-04-2017 05:37PM

JasonRyan wrote: »

You house does pass for FTTH on the eircode checker?
The fibre doesn't go very far down the Cappamore road out of Pallas, Dillons / Old Bridge is the stopping point on that road and barely in the Brackaile road before that bridge.
Seems daft that they are not linking these routes, Pallas to Oola, Pallas to Cappamore, Cappamore to Doon etc as there as loads of houses passed / left out....

Yes. Eircode checker still saying first half 2017. Could be 2 weeks or a few months I guess.

daraghwal · 20-04-2017 05:54PM

JasonRyan wrote: »

Yeah, I remember seeing the number of premises listed before on the exchange map....

Was that not FTTC?

long_b · 20-04-2017 05:57PM

Anyone been connected on the Curragh exchange yet?

JasonRyan · 20-04-2017 06:34PM

damienirel wrote: »

Seems to be the story with this rollout, hence the reason I'm very skeptical of the whole thing - but then if Eir do win the NBP it will make sense.

As other posters have said, Eir are just cherry picking the easiest bunch.
Still, they have to start somewhere, lets hope it gather momentum.

JasonRyan · 20-04-2017 06:37PM

daraghwal wrote: »

Was that not FTTC?

Don't think so, as I seem to remember Pallasgreen on it, and Pallas was never on the FTTC lists, always FTTC.
But I may be wrong. I've looked at so many maps and plans (hopes & dreams too) :-)

Johnboy1951 · 20-04-2017 07:13PM

Some posts lead me to believe that the posters do not take into account that this is a commercial exercise by eir ...... with all that it implies.

What has changed recently is they have signed an agreement with the gov which has specific targets they have to meet.

All that went before that agreement should be regarded separately.
eir are now 'tied' to the agreement ...... unfortunately we do not know how tight those ties are because the info has been redacted.

So we should now watch carefully eir's performance from the beginning of this year, to the end of 2018, when they have guaranteed to have the 300k premises capable of connecting to 30/6 broadband (less an allowance for some exceptional situations).

eir have achieved what they wanted ...... the 300k premises for themselves ...... so now they can, and have committed to, roll out fibre as fast as possible.
One could well believe they were not fully committed until the agreement was recently signed. It sure looks that way to me - now.

eir seem convinced they can deliver on the agreement ...... I sure hope so

Ould Mr Brennan · 20-04-2017 08:57PM

JasonRyan wrote: »

Don't think so, as I seem to remember Pallasgreen on it, and Pallas was never on the FTTC lists, always FTTC.
But I may be wrong. I've looked at so many maps and plans (hopes & dreams too) :-)

Kilteely fully cabeled aswell. A lot of it is underground. Neville civil works are carrying out the work before open Eir. One of the engineers told a friend of mine that there is some delays as the water meters that were installed bust a lot of the ducts but they seem to be back on track now

KOR101 · 20-04-2017 09:16PM

If the NBP winner/s are going to be announced in the near future, it certainly helps Eir's bid if the perform well in the coming months.

yabadabado · 20-04-2017 09:55PM

I was told today on live chat that " the cabinet is full to capacity which means all the available fibre ports are currently in use"
I asked a few more questions and got "Your line being too long to support the higher speeds. The line from the cabinet to your property may not be able to support speeds fast enough for Fiber Extreme(1000MB).

It went live for FTTH on 05/04/2017 but I wasnt able to order anytime I ring/live chat,surely that is complete bolix I was told ?

long_b · 20-04-2017 10:00PM

yabadabado wrote: »

I was told today on live chat that " the cabinet is full to capacity which means all the available fibre ports are currently in use"
I asked a few more questions and got "Your line being too long to support the higher speeds. The line from the cabinet to your property may not be able to support speeds fast enough for Fiber Extreme(1000MB).

It went live for FTTH on 05/04/2017 but I wasnt able to order anytime I ring/live chat,surely that is complete bolix I was told ?

Sounds like they think youre2afger FTTC
FTTH can do 10km no problem.
What's does the Eircode checker say for your Eircode?

http://fibrerollout.ie/eircode-lookup

yabadabado · 20-04-2017 10:22PM

long_b wrote: »

Sounds like they think youre2afger FTTC
FTTH can do 10km no problem.
What's does the Eircode checker say for your Eircode?

http://fibrerollout.ie/eircode-lookup

Im approx 800 metres from cabinet

long_b · 20-04-2017 10:26PM

yabadabado wrote: »

Im approx 800 metres from cabinet

Great, just order on the Eir website so maybe,?

yabadabado · 20-04-2017 10:54PM

long_b wrote: »

Great, just order on the Eir website so maybe,?

Thats when the problems start :mad:

It says on their checker its not available and I have checked regularly for the past 2 weeks,keep getting different answers.

garroff · 20-04-2017 11:59PM

Crew arrived on my road this morning. Completed underground cabling and ran overhead fibre.
The cleared road in a few hours.
When they arrive they can clear network very quickly

tkmullingar · 21-04-2017 12:18AM

Hi anyone have any info or sightings of work on ftth in the Mullingar area.

ACLFC7 · 21-04-2017 12:34AM

tkmullingar wrote: »

Hi anyone have any info or sightings of work on ftth in the Mullingar area.

This was only a week ago:

Greylor wrote: »

Spotted MCS McCann Cabling Solutions laying cable on behalf of Eir in a Southerly direction of Mullingar (the small road to the right of Lynn road and left of Ballinderry if you're looking at the map...I can't see a road name on it).

They are currently laying cable underground but stopping halfway to the N52 and then bringing the cable up to run along the poles. So it looks like they're moving towards the line South along the R400 in the direction of Rochfortsbridge so as to get FTTH to the school a little down that road. Fortunately I live on that road, before the school.

While it will still be MCS McCann doing the aerial part of the cabling, it's a different team of theirs that does it. They said that the best bet to get scheduling on when the aerial line will be run would be to call Eir. Naturally Eir is so clueless they don't even know who of their own people to speak to.

Hopefully there won't be a huge delay between the underground and the aerial part now that they're actually working on this line.

long_b · 21-04-2017 05:03AM

yabadabado wrote: »

Thats when the problems start :mad:

It says on their checker its not available and I have checked regularly for the past 2 weeks,keep getting different answers.

What does the NBP map show for you?

http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/high-speed-broadband-map/Pages/Interactive-Map.aspx

gunnerfitzy · 21-04-2017 08:28AM

eir Sales Agents called yesterday (Aghada, Co Cork). FTTH is live in the area now. I have installation booked for Wednesday

yabadabado · 21-04-2017 09:01AM

long_b wrote: »

What does the NBP map show for you?

http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/high-speed-broadband-map/Pages/Interactive-Map.aspx

Premises Covered
● 20% within NBP Intervention Area
● 0% covered by operators
● 80% planned rural deployment

chewed · 21-04-2017 09:07AM

All the maps and eircode checkers still have my area down for summer 2018 yet I'm told we'll be live on May 3rd. And I'm getting an installation next Friday

Techspert · 21-04-2017 09:57AM

After waiting such a long time for FTTH in Allenwood South, Co. Kildare, it finally went live in the past two weeks. I had Eircom scheduled to install last Tuesday, waited in all day, rang them at 3pm and was told that the Eircom agent had messed up the order and that it wasn't down on the system for installation. This is despite getting a confirmation email from Eircom, (getmore). My case was escalated and installation was supposed to happen today, (Friday), but when I rang today I was told once again that the second agent hadn't put the order through properly either and that no installation was scheduled. I was told I would get a call this afternoon from the third agent I spoke to re-schedule the installation.

I have already taken two days off work to ensure I would be here for the engineer, so this is really getting ridiculous.

The fibre cable has been on the pole outside my house for the past two months. C'mon eircom,get your act together!!

damienirel · 21-04-2017 10:07AM

chewed wrote: »

All the maps and eircode checkers still have my area down for summer 2018 yet I'm told we'll be live on May 3rd. And I'm getting an installation next Friday

You'll have everybody dreaming they will get it sooner than they're down for.
Myself included -

Chieftain · 21-04-2017 10:47AM

I see KNN working round Muckross in Killarney again. Looks like might be getting close to getting decent broadband at last. Eircode checker says by 2nd half of 2017 so fingers crossed

superloopy · 21-04-2017 11:12AM

Makes you wonder with the FTTH map and the activity in certain counties the rational of where gets done first. Cork seems to be flying, meanwhile Kerry seems to be the worst of all the counties. Nothing moving. Just a thing I noticed. Anyway... back to waiting.

ACLFC7 · 21-04-2017 11:22AM

yabadabado wrote: »

Premises Covered
● 20% within NBP Intervention Area
● 0% covered by operators
● 80% planned rural deployment

On that NBP map, is your house covered by a light blue circle?

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