Bouncer punches woman who tried to punch him.

Dravokivich · 19-04-2017 04:27PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Those were very different circumstances in the Woolshed case

Because that was 3 on 1, or that they were all male?

I think you are missing what I'm trying to indicate. We are only looking at a small clip of something that is clearly an extreme scenario. I would not expect it to be normal for that bouncer to respond in the manner which he did. But it's hard to comment any further with no context to it what so ever. So all that gets picked up by the shock crowd is man hits woman.

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Nothwithstanding all the references to the bouncer as "him", I think the Bouncer looks more female, which might explain why it was being filmed...
Am I alone?

The bouncer wasn't the one in the dress. :P

MysticMonk · 19-04-2017 04:28PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I'm all for self defense but I watched the video and she was no threat. I would say the same thing if she was a man. She was so drunk he easily ducked her pathetic punch. He could easily restrained her or pushed her over. In this case it was a complete over reaction on his part.

She deserved it..simple as that...women are just as capable of hurting people as men,it's not for a liberal to say what he should or should not have done after the fact...a threat is a threat.

HenryHill · 19-04-2017 04:28PM

The bouncer hits like a girl anyway, he didn't even drop her.

armaghlad · 19-04-2017 04:29PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Where on earth are people getting the idea that this was out of the blue or unprovoked? She went to punch him! What's he supposed to do? Just stand there and take it because she's woman?

Gender shouldn't come into this.

Stand there and take it because he's a sober professional doing his job. It is what he is paid to do. Gender completely comes into it, women are physically weaker than men. Next thing you'll be saying it's ok to hit a child when they swing a dig for you

Call Me Jimmy · 19-04-2017 04:30PM

It's essentially a general rule for height to weight ratio. I as a short arse male would pay a heavy price for thinking I can throw punches at stocky or tall guys and get away with it. And even if most guys are 'nice' enough to restrain a woman for throwing a punch at them, I wouldn't want my daughter (or short arse son) thinking they can count on it.

19-04-2017 04:30PM

You want equal rights, expect equal lefts.

armaghlad · 19-04-2017 04:31PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Nothwithstanding all the references to the bouncer as "him", I think the Bouncer looks more female, which might explain why it was being filmed...
Am I alone?

It refers to a male bouncer in the article.

19-04-2017 04:32PM

minikin wrote: »

Liverpool is in Ireland now? When did that happen?

Watch a Liverpool vs United match anywhere in the country and you'll see. Place is full of apparent Scousers and Mancs saying 'us' and 'we', or as I like to call them, utter gob****es.

Your Face · 19-04-2017 04:32PM

Bam! Right in the kisser.

What time is the march?

19-04-2017 04:35PM

The best ones ever right here.

The crack of this slap is like Indiana Jones' whip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abqRbVNBPyc

The driver says ''If you wanna act like a man, I'll treat you like man''.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TphCi4zH1sk

sonic85 · 19-04-2017 04:36PM

Gas thread. We're only seeing a clip of 25 seconds or so of footage - nobody knows what happened before or after. At the end she actually moved back towards him.

There are so many stories of how vicious women can be when their backs are up and they become violent and still there are loads of people here who seem to be advocating just standing there and letting her have at it!

If she raked something across his face and left him needing 15 stitches can he defend himself then? Where's the point that it's acceptable to defend yourself - when blood is drawn?

She went to attack someone physically and got exactly what she deserved. Gender doesn't and shouldn't come into it.

HenryHill · 19-04-2017 04:37PM

Omackeral wrote: »

The best ones ever right here.

The crack of this slap is like Indiana Jones' whip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abqRbVNBPyc

The driver says ''If you wanna act like a man, I'll treat you like man''.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TphCi4zH1sk

The bus driver one is an absolute classic.

thegreengoblin · 19-04-2017 04:37PM

I'll tell you who needs a punch...the owner of that website who the OP linked to. I'd recommend people do a little research into Leo Sherlock before they click on his poxy, racist, bigoted, copy and paste 'news' site.

seachto7 · 19-04-2017 04:38PM

Would be good to get whole story. I saw a woman being carted out of a pub by two bouncers once, and they were restraining her. It took two. She had a stanley knife.

Widdershins · 19-04-2017 04:40PM

armaghlad wrote: »

Stand there and take it because he's a sober professional doing his job. It is what he is paid to do. Gender completely comes into it, women are physically weaker than men. Next thing you'll be saying it's ok to hit a child when they swing a dig for you

Women despite being of a smaller build are adults with equal mental capacity for decision making and equal responsibility for their actions and awareness of the consequences.

I'm not sure if it's part of the job description that bouncers have to take physical violence? I imagine violence is expected but I doubt ''submit and be the public's punchbag'' or ''gracefully disarm or distance an attacker without ruffling a hair on their head or making any defensive counter actions'' is part of job the description. Is it?

Call Me Jimmy · 19-04-2017 04:40PM

And no matter how drunk or wrecked I got on whatever, a bouncer is the LAST person I would try to hit. You'd have to have something in your mind that thinks either 'I can take this guy' or 'this guy cannot touch me because I'm a woman' for you to consider it. I think just this incident might make a few women realise 'fcuck i didnt know they could do that' and then join us sane people in recognising our own limitations and NEVER trying it.

19-04-2017 04:40PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Because that was 3 on 1, or that they were all male?

I think you are missing what I'm trying to indicate. We are only looking at a small clip of something that is clearly an extreme scenario. I would not expect it to be normal for that bouncer to respond in the manner which he did. But it's hard to comment any further with no context to it what so ever. So all that gets picked up by the shock crowd is man hits woman.

They were so different I shouldn't have to point it out.

Fair enough in that we don't know what went on beforehand, but in almost every situation we never have the full story, there is not much we can do about it.

BattleCorp · 19-04-2017 04:41PM

Omackeral wrote: »

The driver says ''If you wanna act like a man, I'll treat you like man''.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TphCi4zH1sk

Holy Sh1t. The bus driver really clocked her one. Not remotely in the same category as the bouncer in this thread though.

Dyr · 19-04-2017 04:41PM

Ah was more just a bit of a shlap than a punch.

Good enough for her anyway.

AudreyHepburn · 19-04-2017 04:41PM

armaghlad wrote: »

Stand there and take it because he's a sober professional doing his job. It is what he is paid to do. Gender completely comes into it, women are physically weaker than men. Next thing you'll be saying it's ok to hit a child when they swing a dig for you

Of course it's not ok to physically harm a child but a drunken lout, male or female, who takes a swing at you? That's an entirely different scenario.

No bouncer should have to take being physically assault regardless of their job..

Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? Did you end up on the wrong side of a bouncer at some point?

Again gender doesn't matter - he was attacked, he a right to defend himself. Women can cause just as much harm as men.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 19-04-2017 04:43PM

In this ridiculous new world we live in where free rights, equality and PC issues seem to have taken over then he was dead right. If he is to be prosecuted/investigated it should be simply be one of self defence, the fact that she is a woman albeit a very unrefined non feminine one should make no difference. She tried to punch him, he punched her back and it didn't appear to deter her. She got what she deserved.

Keyzer · 19-04-2017 04:47PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TphCi4zH1sk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTMA5og-Wwo

BattleCorp · 19-04-2017 04:47PM

Maybe it's just me but I'm pretty much averse to taking any sort of punch to the face. Lets call it a phobia.

It's all well and good for people on here to say that the bouncer wasn't in any danger. If that's the case, I'd recommend that those people go out this weekend and let a drunk woman punch them in the face.

The bouncer didn't smash her face in. He gave her enough of a slap to stop her attacking him, or at least gave her food for though as to what she'd get if she tried to attack him a second time.

I believe he acted proportionately.

armaghlad · 19-04-2017 04:49PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Of course it's not ok to physically harm a child but a drunken lout, male or female, who takes a swing at you? That's an entirely different scenario.

No bouncer should have to take being physically assault regardless of their job..

Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? Did you end up on the wrong side of a bouncer at some point?

Again gender doesn't matter - he was attacked, he a right to defend himself. Women can cause just as much harm as men.

The woman is clearly inebriated and striking her was needless as she posed no threat and therefore there is nothing to defend himself from. Gender DOES matter, yes women can be vicious but most of them at best have the physical attributes of a teenage boy. It doesn't take much to restrain a woman, I've seen it time and time again if they lose the plot like this girl has then they can easily be over-powered, restrained and escorted from the premises without resorting to striking them. Having worked with doorstaff, many have the attitude that if there is no cctv it gives them free reign to act the scumbag; and before you accuse me of having a chip on my shoulder the head of our security at present is an absolute gentleman (former champion boxer) who is professional, calm and disciplined when things kick off. He would equally be appalled if one of his men acted like the bouncer in the video

Dyr · 19-04-2017 04:50PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Holy Sh1t. The bus driver really clocked her one. Not remotely in the same category as the bouncer in this thread though.

Like richard pryor would have said the punch started way down in Mississippi and gained momentum coming up through Georgia then swung through Louisiana

Maximus Alexander · 19-04-2017 04:51PM

If she didn't have a bottle and didn't know karate then it's not acceptable.

19-04-2017 04:52PM

People who say that men aren't in danger from women are being pretty delusional & have never had sisters, obviously.

Keyzer · 19-04-2017 04:54PM

armaghlad wrote: »

The woman is clearly inebriated and striking her was needless as she posed no threat and therefore there is nothing to defend himself from. Gender DOES matter, yes women can be vicious but most of them at best have the physical attributes of a teenage boy. It doesn't take much to restrain a woman, I've seen it time and time again if they lose the plot like this girl has then they can easily be over-powered, restrained and escorted from the premises without resorting to striking them. Having worked with doorstaff, many have the attitude that if there is no cctv it gives them free reign to act the scumbag; and before you accuse me of having a chip on my shoulder the head of our security at present is an absolute gentleman (former champion boxer) who is professional, calm and disciplined when things kick off. He would equally be appalled if one of his men acted like the bouncer in the video

Bullsh1t...

She swung at him, drunk or not makes no difference.

Maybe she'll think twice about it next time...

MysticMonk · 19-04-2017 04:54PM

thegreengoblin wrote: »

I'll tell you who needs a punch...the owner of that website who the OP linked to. I'd recommend people do a little research into Leo Sherlock before they click on his poxy, racist, bigoted, copy and paste 'news' site.

Just checked...couldn't see anything racist that he said or did.

What has he done that's racist and against which race?

Keyzer · 19-04-2017 04:56PM

Is this acceptable? Indian game show where contestants appear to be insulted. presented wallops a man and he instinctively hits her back. The gets seven shades of ****e k1cked out him. Absolutely no justification or reason in the world why she hit him, he had every right to hit her back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4akMaeZ0-k

Bouncer punches woman who tried to punch him.

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