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100 gay men detained in 'concentration camps' in Chechnya — read first post

  • 10-04-2017 09:40PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭


    Mod note:
    Peregrine wrote: »
    This thread goes off-topic far too easily. Obviously, Islamic attitudes to homosexuality is related to the topic but soapboxing about Islam in general, crimes committed by Muslims around the world, immigration etc. has nothing to do with homosexual concentration camps in Chechnya. Keep the thread on topic please.

    Generalisations and hate speech won't be tolerated. Tone it down.

    Mod


    Haven't seen this posted here. Shocking that this can go on in this day and age. I wonder if Putin will do anything or is Chechnya pretty much independent?


    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chechnya-detains-100-gay-men-first-concentration-camps-since-holocaust-1616363
    Chechnya detains 100 gay men in first concentration camps since the Holocaust

    More than 100 gay men have been detained in concentration camp-style prisons in the Russian region of Chechnya, according to reports by local newspapers and human rights organisations.

    The arrests are being made as part of a widespread anti-LGBT purge in the area. The prison camps are the first to be established for LGBT people since the Second World War.

    The information was first published by the Novaya Gazeta, an independent Russian newspaper, which reported that men were being arrested and kept in concentration camp prisons where violence and abuse is commonplace.


    Repressions against the LGBT community began after an application for a gay rights march in the Chechen capital of Grozny.

    A prison camp has reportedly been established in the town of Argun, according to eyewitness testimonies.

    The report was published on the 1 April, prompting the spokesperson for Chechnya's Interior Ministry to dismiss the claims as an "April Fools' joke".

    The press secretary for Ramzan Kadyrov, the head of the Chechen Republic, described the report as "lies" and stated there were no gay people in Chechnya.

    "If there were such people in Chechnya, law-enforcement agencies wouldn't need to have anything to do with them because their relatives would send them somewhere from which there is no returning," he said.


    Human rights organisations have corroborated the information published by Novaya Gazeta.

    "For several weeks now, a brutal campaign against LGBT people has been sweeping through Chechnya. Law enforcement and security agency officials under control of the ruthless head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, have rounded up dozens of men on suspicion of being gay, torturing and humiliating the victims," a report by Human Rights Watch states.

    "Some of the men have forcibly disappeared. Others were returned to their families barely alive from beatings. At least three men apparently have died since this brutal campaign began."


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Whatll they do if the ghays all start riding in the concentration camp :pac:












    *sad that this has to be said for clarity.....Im completely againest what is going on here-concentration camps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Chechnya? Homosexuals? Peace be upon them ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭b_mac2


    Muslims persecuting homosexuals? Well I never...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,655 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Just as was the case in Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Iran, Ramzan Kadyrov has stated there are no homosexuals in Chechyna. :pac:

    For all that vile brat knows some of his inner circle could be homosexual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Haven't seen this posted here. Shocking that this can go on in this day and age. I wonder if Putin will do anything or is Chechnya pretty much independent?

    Putin defending gay people? :pac::pac::pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    oh jeezus :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 106 ✭✭Luggnuts


    Is this real?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Just as was the case in Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Iran, Ramzan Kadyrov has stated there are no homosexuals in Chechyna. :pac:

    For all that vile brat knows some of his inner circle could be homosexual.

    More disturbing is the fact that he claims there are no homosexuals because if there were their families would kill them.

    Often these people, such as pastors and politicians etc rabidly preaching against gays, turn out to be gay themselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,655 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    More disturbing is the fact that he claims there are no homosexuals because if there were their families would kill them.

    Often these people, such as pastors and politicians etc rabidly preaching against gays, turn out to be gay themselves

    True. He could well be a closet case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Chechnya pretty much runs by itself away from Russia. There is a general agreement of "Don't act the bollox and we won't flatten the place again".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    This lad is mad for the wavin


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2 toyota carina II


    that is very unfair as the lbgt community have been one of the biggest and most vocal supporters of refugee- asylum seeker rights,


    it's 1000 miles away now in chechnya but we must not invite this kind of carry on into dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Sure look at what they do to school kids when they want to make a point

    Animals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    Do you ever find yourself looking at something like this, or the gassing of children on Syria, or shooting of kids in a US school and ask yourself......

    What the f**k are the people behind this thinking.

    Is this proof that people are not inherently good?

    We are so helpless here in Ireland where some people think starting a campaign on Facebook will actually make a difference.


    I worry for the future


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Whatll they do if the ghays all start riding in the concentration camp :pac:


    *sad that this has to be said for clarity.....Im completely againest what is going on here-concentration camps

    Sad that this is considered humour by some considering the story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Whatll they do if the ghays all start riding in the camp.


    They've already killed three of them

    They're probably the lucky ones considering :





    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/09/world/europe/beslan-school-siege-fast-facts/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    gctest50 wrote: »
    They've already killed three of them

    They're probably the lucky ones considering :



    https://m.liveleak.com/view?/url]

    Should put a warning on the link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Whatll they do if the ghays all start riding in the concentration camp :pac

    *sad that this has to be said for clarity.....Im completely againest what is going on here-concentration camps

    Kill them ffs. What do you think a concentration camp is?
    Sad that people think this sort of thing can be joked about.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    Kill them ffs. What do you think a concentration camp is?
    Sad that people think this sort of thing can be joked about.

    When you start to see as much of this kind of carry on as there is, joking becomes the only way to make it tolerable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    gctest50 wrote: »
    They've already killed three of them

    They're probably the lucky ones considering :



    https://m.liveleak.com/view?


    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/09/world/europe/beslan-school-siege-fast-facts/

    If there's anything in that video that shouldn't be on boards I'd advise you remove it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Shocking that this can go on in this day and age.

    The problem is what day and age is that, it's the dark ages in many parts of the World. Most of Ireland seems to have made it to about 1970 thankfully.

    On a lighter note:
    Warning - Item The Dagestan Beheading Massacre might contain content that is not suitable for all ages.

    You don't say...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 106 ✭✭Luggnuts


    Who is responsible for this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Pardon my French, but that dickhead has spent half his life trying to get as far up Putin's hole as he can, I seriously doubt he's acting without the blessing of his sugar daddy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    I've always felt lucky to be living in Ireland but all the dark, twisted international news recently has me thinking that this little island is an absolute gem.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    I remember reading about the Pink Triangle when I was a teenager and the sadness that crept into me, knowing that people exactly like me were tortured and exterminated because of who they were.

    It's unbelievable to think this is happening again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭AnthonyCny


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Haven't seen this posted here. Shocking that this can go on in this day and age. I wonder if Putin will do anything or is Chechnya pretty much independent?


    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chechnya-detains-100-gay-men-first-concentration-camps-since-holocaust-1616363

    There were concentration camps in Bosnia and Serbia in the 90s during that war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    And to think people will travel to Russia​ for the world​ cup and this is considered acceptable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Gatling wrote: »
    And to think people will travel to Russia​ for the world​ cup and this is considered acceptable

    What?

    Travelling to Russia?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    Gatling wrote: »
    And to think people will travel to Russia​ for the world​ cup and this is considered acceptable

    Didn't our state broadcaster support Kazaksthan with the Eurovision and their record wasn't exactly 'Rights if Man' either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    When you start to see as much of this kind of carry on as there is, joking becomes the only way to make it tolerable.

    if somebody jokes about it they just don't care. Fair enough but don't try to say its because its so sad that joking is the only thing that makes it bearable for you.. so ridiculous


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