The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

everlast75 · 06-04-2017 02:48PM

Yup - 36 once average load is 2 or 3 people. If you've a larger load the sticker on the pillar says more

opinionated3 · 06-04-2017 03:07PM

Thanks for all the replies lads. ...I'll check mine this evening to be sure

Max Q · 06-04-2017 05:40PM

Ron Burgundy II wrote: »

It will highlight (orange) which tire is the problem, but this out of the blue just flashed up all tires. Every time it has popped up I've had a slow puncture, picking up screws/nails from site visits. So I've faith in the system working, just curious as to why it would flash all four.

I might just ring the garage as I have the squeak coming from the front right as well.

What tyres are on the car? I had this exact fault several times - a warning highlighting all four tyres and every time I checked all four tyres pressures were spot on.

This was on the Bridgstone Potenzas the car came from the factory with. I changed all four tyres to Michelin Pilot Sport 4's several months ago and haven't had a single false warning since.

Can't say for definite that it was something odd with the Bridgestones causing the false alarms, but it's an interesting coincidence that it hasn't returned since changing them..

Mine's a GTI-P on 18" stock wheels.

Max Q · 06-04-2017 06:41PM

OSI wrote: »

How you finding the PS4s versus the Bridgestones?

Night and Day...

The PS4's put all the power down without fuss..almost never trigger the traction control light no matter how (stupidly!) I drive the car. The traction is light years ahead of the Bridgestones. It really transformed the car. I was amazed by the difference they made.

Ron Burgundy II · 06-04-2017 09:32PM

Max Q wrote: »

What tyres are on the car? I had this exact fault several times - a warning highlighting all four tyres and every time I checked all four tyres pressures were spot on.

This was on the Bridgstone Potenzas the car came from the factory with. I changed all four tyres to Michelin Pilot Sport 4's several months ago and haven't had a single false warning since.

Can't say for definite that it was something odd with the Bridgestones causing the false alarms, but it's an interesting coincidence that it hasn't returned since changing them..

Mine's a GTI-P on 18" stock wheels.

Car came with Dunlop Sport Maxx, but changed the fronts to Goodyears. It's just a very random issue. Not very worried, will reset the computer again and see if shows up again. Anyway car is due in for a service end of month so will mention it to the dealer then.

JoeA3 · 06-04-2017 11:27PM

I got chatting to the guys in sales when I had the car in today. They told me they've done a deal to take their first R in on a trade in. Fella with a 151 manual 3-door. He's trading it for a 5 door DSG. They're giving him about 30k for his car. The new R is retailing around 48.5k (?) before you tick any options. So he's looking at the bones of a 20k cost to change after 2 and a bit years :eek:

It's going to cost me some wedge if I want to replace like for like after 3 years!

Micky 32 · 06-04-2017 11:34PM

OSI wrote: »

Yeah, it just detects that one of the wheels is turning at a different speed to the others so must be flat. It's crap tbh. Mine goes off nearly every month.

Interesting though, my last 3 VAG cars had the monitor and only went off when i genuinely had a low tyre and i do 600 miles a week.

JoeA3 · 06-04-2017 11:57PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Interesting though, my last 3 VAG cars had the monitor and only went off when i genuinely had a low tyre and i do 600 miles a week.

The slow puncture I had the other week... the tyre had only deflated a few PSI (I think it was down to about 32 ish) so I was kinda impressed it detected it so early. I was about to put it down as a false alarm when I spotted the screw sticking proud of the tread...

dar83 · 07-04-2017 08:36AM

OSI wrote: »

How you finding the PS4s versus the Bridgestones?

I would hazard a guess that anything premium against the Potenza's would be night and day. I hate the Potenza's, properly hate them. They're increasingly noisy and the traction and lateral grip they give is shocking compared to what I was used to, and that was coming from a 260+bhp FWD with no diff!

I can't wait to get rid of them.

Muppet Man · 07-04-2017 01:32PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

It's going to cost me some wedge if I want to replace like for like after 3 years!

When is your 3 years up Joe?

JoeA3 · 07-04-2017 01:32PM

Muppet Man wrote: »

When is your 3 years up Joe?

August 2018...

Royale with Cheese · 07-04-2017 01:41PM

Went for a test drive in a 2014 GTI this morning. I'm sold on the DSG, just not that particular car however. I was originally leaning towards manual but definitely not anymore. I'm hoping there will be a few more trade ins/PCP deals coming to an end over the next couple of months.

hooch-85 · 07-04-2017 02:17PM

dar83 wrote: »

I would hazard a guess that anything premium against the Potenza's would be night and day. I hate the Potenza's, properly hate them. They're increasingly noisy and the traction and lateral grip they give is shocking compared to what I was used to, and that was coming from a 260+bhp FWD with no diff!

I can't wait to get rid of them.

My Fiesta ST came with the Potenza RE050 as standard and i agree they are a poor tyre for a supposed premium brand. I only got 12kms out of my front tyres, replaced them with some Kumho Ecsta KU39 which I found pretty good but realistically they are a mid range tyre too. I've ordered some Eagle F1's which i should have early next week, looking forward to trying them.

vintagevrs · 07-04-2017 02:41PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

It's going to cost me some wedge if I want to replace like for like after 3 years!

Would you consider it? I'd think you'd be mad to, but I know you like your Golfs.

Spending €20k-25k ish (40-50% depreciation on 50k) though every three years on depreciation alone is a big feckin lump of money. Doubt I would buy new again because of it.

JoeA3 · 07-04-2017 02:44PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

Would you consider it? I'd think you'd be mad to, but I know you like your Golfs.

Spending â‚¬20k-25k ish (40-50% depreciation on 50k) though every three years on depreciation alone is a big feckin lump of money. Doubt I would buy new again because of it.

Consider it - yes. I'll sit tight anyway till at least early next year and then I'll see how the itch is :pac:

The depreciation costs are eye watering alright when you think about it...

carsfan2 · 07-04-2017 03:22PM

A bit philosophical but, I look on my car as more than a means of transportation. I've loved nice cars since I was a boy and my car is one of my hobbies and a good car brings me pleasure.
Obviously I'm not going to spend every last penny on a car but if you can afford it and makes you happy then do it I say.
Everybody's circumstances are different and I know depreciation can concentrate the mind sometimes but if your lifestyle can afford it and you want it, why not have a new nice car?
I see people my age and not much older getting sick and having other problems in their lives so think life is too short to not do some things that make us happy.

That said I've resolved my next car will be second hand and a few years old but I said that before I bought my gti new and since bought bmw new too.
Gti/ gtd and R are relatively good depreciation wise anyway.

JoeA3 · 07-04-2017 03:25PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

A bit philosophical but, I look on my car as more than a means of transportation. I've loved nice cars since I was a boy and my car is one of my hobbies and a good car brings me pleasure.
Obviously I'm not going to spend every last penny on a car but if you can afford it and makes you happy then do it I say.
Everybody's circumstances are different and I know depreciation can concentrate the mind sometimes but if your lifestyle can afford it and you want it, why not have a new nice car?
I see people my age and not much older getting sick and having other problems in their lives so think life is too short to not do some things that make us happy.

That said I've resolved my next car will be second hand and a few years old but I said that before I bought my gti new and since bought bmw new too.
Gti/ gtd and R are relatively good depreciation wise anyway.

All the above is what I keep telling myself

But as I mentioned a few posts ago... it looks like cost to change for a 2 year old R to a new one is 17-18k... which I'm not so sure is "good depreciation wise" but probably no worse than anything else...

everlast75 · 07-04-2017 03:27PM

I reckon my next car will be the R, 7.5, White, DSG (pretty specific I know) - probably 2018 but bought second hand in 2019.

That's if I am willing to part with the current GTi

carsfan2 · 07-04-2017 06:24PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

All the above is what I keep telling myself

But as I mentioned a few posts ago... it looks like cost to change for a 2 year old R to a new one is 17-18k... which I'm not so sure is "good depreciation wise" but probably no worse than anything else...

The days of really low depreciation are behind us now and were only really due to lack of sales creating a lack of supply in the used market.
Now sales are slowing again in Ireland after a couple of good years dealers will come up with ways to make the cost to change more bearable with bigger deposit contributions etc.

marathonic · 08-04-2017 10:09AM

Yeah, depreciation is a killer if changing every 2 years. The €17-18k on a €48k car over 2 years is about 35% (or 20% per year) which, as you say, is no worse or better than what you should be budgeting for nearly any car.
By the time August 2018 comes round, there's sure to be plenty of rumours and potential spy shots of the MK8. That might be enough to hold off on the itch for a little longer and limit the depreciation incurred over the next 2 years.
I'd hate the thought of hopping into a MK7.5 from a MK7 at an upgrade cost of around €30k if I knew the MK8 was coming the following year.

MarkN · 08-04-2017 11:47AM

marathonic wrote: »

Yeah, depreciation is a killer if changing every 2 years. The €17-18k on a €48k car over 2 years is about 35% (or 20% per year) which, as you say, is no worse or better than what you should be budgeting for nearly any car.
By the time August 2018 comes round, there's sure to be plenty of rumours and potential spy shots of the MK8. That might be enough to hold off on the itch for a little longer and limit the depreciation incurred over the next 2 years.
I'd hate the thought of hopping into a MK7.5 from a MK7 at an upgrade cost of around €30k if I knew the MK8 was coming the following year.

30k for a facelift upgrade? I'd be looking at my 30k for a long time!

JoeA3 · 08-04-2017 06:39PM

I had a spin in a couple of 430d's today, a friend is looking to change to one so I went along for the ride. Really impressive car for the money (a 6-8 month old one can be got for less than new R money and these cars are pushing 70k new!). There's an official BMW "performance pack" upgrade available too (essentially a BMW Ecu remap and bigger intercooler) that brings the car up to 280-ish bhp. It's some machine to shift!

Would make a man think!

bazz26 · 08-04-2017 09:28PM

Joe do you know how much the dealer is charging for the performance pack?

JoeA3 · 08-04-2017 09:46PM

bazz26 wrote: »

Joe do you know how much the dealer is charging for the performance pack?

€1100. Well worth it imo when you're spending that much especially when it's a BMW thing and your warranty is intact, etc. We drove 2 of them back to back, one without, the other with. The difference was very apparent. I was impressed.

bazz26 · 08-04-2017 09:56PM

Thanks Joe, yeah if you have warranty then it's good value. I think the 430d is 258bhp stock. Beshops in Dublin have a 161 430d GC xDrive with decent spec for 46k so a nearly new one seems to be reasonably good value compared to the price of a new one.

JoeA3 · 08-04-2017 10:07PM

bazz26 wrote: »

Thanks Joe, yeah if you have warranty then it's good value. I think the 430d is 258bhp stock. Beshops in Dublin have a 161 430d GC xDrive with decent spec for 46k so a nearly new one seems to be reasonably good value compared to the price of a new one.

Nearly new is the way to go with these cars. The money they lose in the first 6-12 months is eye watering. The cars we drove today were mint and I mean 171-D-new mint. You'd be crazy to buy it new.
The xDrive means you lose the m Sport suspension, it looks jacked up which would put me off. I can't remember the standard bhp, thought it was lower than that but the performance pack brings it close to 290 and beefs up the torque too. The car drives more like a petrol.

The only thing that put both of us off... coming from VW was the relative lack of tech in the BMW. Manual handbrake. No adaptive cruise. No auto dimming main beam...

But we both agreed you'd soon get over that

Micky 32 · 08-04-2017 10:41PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

Nearly new is the way to go with these cars. The money they lose in the first 6-12 months is eye watering. The cars we drove today were mint and I mean 171-D-new mint. You'd be crazy to buy it new.
The xDrive means you lose the m Sport suspension, it looks jacked up which would put me off. I can't remember the standard bhp, thought it was lower than that but the performance pack brings it close to 290 and beefs up the torque too. The car drives more like a petrol.

The only thing that put both of us off... coming from VW was the relative lack of tech in the BMW. Manual handbrake. No adaptive cruise. No auto dimming main beam...

But we both agreed you'd soon get over that

Manual handbrake is a bit of a surpise , was sure they'd have everything by now

JoeA3 · 08-04-2017 10:44PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Manual handbrake is a bit of a surpise , was sure they'd have everything by now

Not in the 3 or 4 anyway. The new 5 has it alright.

Micky 32 · 08-04-2017 10:45PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

Not in the 3 or 4 anyway. The new 5 has it alright.

I couldn't go back to a manual handbrake, the E brake is fantastic.

JoeA3 · 08-04-2017 10:53PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I couldn't go back to a manual handbrake, the E brake is fantastic.

The e-brake + DSG + adaptive cruise are absolutely fantastic tech all together. All are absent in the current 3/4 series range which is incredible really. The BMW auto is good but not dsg good.
But having said all that I was hugely impressed with the 430.

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