Truck driven into crowd in Stockholm - No Speculation

blinding · 07-04-2017 04:17PM

Should we all be thanking our politicians for their open doors unlimited immigration and of course we shouldn't forget the Glorious EU either...........

All madness with these sort of results...........

07-04-2017 04:18PM

I mean.. does it seem like Swedish terrorists are just useless? We had that one fella who blew himself up and nobody else and now this person who, while they did kill some people, they managed to catch their own truck on fire & get arrested.

Neon_Lights · 07-04-2017 04:18PM

Kora Modern Pointlessly wrote: »

Why should islamic people suffer due to the actions of a few?

Because they don't integrate at all into Irish society or Europe at large, and impose their ideology on others.

Why should we leave the door open for this crap to happen?

Walter H Price · 07-04-2017 04:18PM

masculinist wrote: »

I think the obvious compromise here is we lock up ''Hate Preachers'' indefinitely due to ''mental illness'' . Hate Preachers do exist. Either we call it out as ''real Islam'' or we just lock them up , pump them full of Thorazine anti psychotics and throw away the key. And let the moderates take over the Mosques. And keep that subroutine going.

Why do that , they are not mentally ill just religious zealots ... the only issue here is books of fairy tales for grown ups that vindicate , slavery , discrimination , homophobia , war and a whole host of other nasty devise narrow minded views.

No need for psyche wards we just need bonfires for religious texts and bulldozers for religious buildings , we could turn the areas into something nice like parks.

Religion is a cancer , but we already have the cure

Falthyron · 07-04-2017 04:18PM

Depp wrote: »

so whats your plan then? go about your day as normal and pretend nothing happened? ''dont mind the burning truck hanging out of a shop front or the blood stains lads paying attention to that is exactly what they want us to do!'' lunacy!

Your hyperbolic reaction to a perfectly sensible argument proves terrorism works. What you have just written is nothing close to what the person you were quoting was even remotely implying.

Hysteria, panic, exaggeration, over-reaction. Terrorism wins again.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-04-2017 04:20PM

Autistic people like routine

Driving a fcuking truck into people isn't usually one of them

Dirty Dingus McGee · 07-04-2017 04:21PM

Depp wrote: »

so whats your plan then? go about your day as normal and pretend nothing happened? ''dont mind the burning truck hanging out of a shop front or the blood stains lads paying attention to that is exactly what they want us to do!'' lunacy!

No.Just don't give it massive international news coverage and overblow everything for entertainment reasons like news networks do.

These kind of people thrive on publicity.Police in America didn't want the excessive coverage of mass shootings over there because the kinds of people that did those things did it because of the attention they got. Same applies with this.

ScumLord · 07-04-2017 04:21PM

blinding wrote: »

Should we all be thanking our politicians for their open doors unlimited immigration and of course we shouldn't forget the Glorious EU either...........

There isn't unlimited immigration.

Depp · 07-04-2017 04:23PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

No.Just don't give it massive international news coverage and overblow everything for entertainment reasons like news networks do.

These kind of people thrive on publicity.Police in America didn't want the excessive coverage of mass shootings over there because the kinds of people that did those things did it because of the attention they got. Same applies with this.

sorry but a terrorist attack in a major western city is international news why shouldn't it be covered?

Ronaldinho · 07-04-2017 04:25PM

ScumLord wrote: »

There isn't unlimited immigration.

Wrong

Falthyron · 07-04-2017 04:25PM

Depp wrote: »

sorry but a terrorist attack in a major western city is international news why shouldn't it be covered?

You need to learn to read. He did not say 'it shouldn't be covered'. He simply said it shouldn't be covered to the extent of a Big Brother marathon.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 07-04-2017 04:25PM

Depp wrote: »

sorry but a terrorist attack in a major western city is international news why shouldn't it be covered?

It should be covered but not excessive coverage.

Just mention it as part of a bulletin and move on and don't dedicate hours of television to it like so many networks do in these types of situations.

Giving excessive over the top coverage won't do any good.

The Backwards Man · 07-04-2017 04:26PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I mean.. does it seem like Swedish terrorists are just useless? We had that one fella who blew himself up and nobody else and now this person who, while they did kill some people, they managed to catch their own truck on fire & get arrested.

It highlights that they just don't have the manpower they profess to have. If they had the hordes of martyrs willing to murder and maim in the name of the Caliphate they claim they have, we'd have multiple attacks every day of the week to contend with, all they have is a few yahoos that are murderous enough to keep the scaremongering useful idiots occupied.

Terrorism is all about the fear though, so I suppose that's enough.

07-04-2017 04:26PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Autistic people like routine

Driving a fcuking truck into people isn't usually one of them

Yeah, because that's all that autism is ...

:rolleyes:

ScumLord · 07-04-2017 04:28PM

Depp wrote: »

sorry but a terrorist attack in a major western city is international news why shouldn't it be covered?

It's not about not covering it, it's about turning it into a spectacle that they make money off. Media companies sensationalise news, I'm sure you'll agree with that. For the most part we put up with it and we in the west know it's sensationalised and can read between the lines. But the terrorists can use that over the top reporting as a recruitment tool showing that their attacks are effective and if the next guy does it he'll become famous and have scary videos made about him. We in the west need to come up with another way of reporting these events.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-04-2017 04:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah, because that's all that autism is ...

:rolleyes:

Dont lecture me on autism

Anita Blow · 07-04-2017 04:28PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

It should be covered but not excessive coverage.

Just mention it as part of a bulletin and move on and don't dedicate hours of television to it like so many networks do in these types of situations.

Giving excessive over the top coverage won't do any good.

I understand what you're saying and I think there's a reasonable middleground, but to me to just sideline such attacks to a bulletin only further normalises what's happening. We should never accept a bombing or a mass shooting or similar terror attacks as normality to be sandwiched into a quick bulletin.

07-04-2017 04:30PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It highlights that they just don't have the manpower they profess to have. If they had the hordes of martyrs willing to murder and maim in the name of the Caliphate they claim they have, we'd have multiple attacks every day of the week to contend with, all they have is a few yahoos that are murderous enough to keep the scaremongering useful idiots occupied.

Terrorism is all about the fear though, so I suppose that's enough.

That's precisely it. It's nothing like what people make it out to be but is instead a group of people that is preying on the mentally challenged, the mentally ill.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Dont lecture me on autism

If you seem to think that autism is just people sticking to routines, then perhaps you should be....

Depp · 07-04-2017 04:30PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

It should be covered but not excessive coverage.

Just mention it as part of a bulletin and move on and don't dedicate hours of television to it like so many networks do in these types of situations.

Giving excessive over the top coverage won't do any good.

Maybe so but people are interested, islamist terror is slowly but surely becoming a genuine problem in the west and people want to know about it.

Falthyron · 07-04-2017 04:31PM

Anita Blow wrote: »

I understand what you're saying and I think there's a reasonable middleground, but to me to just sideline such attacks to a bulletin only further normalises what's happening. We should never accept a bombing or a mass shooting or similar terror attacks as normality to be sandwiched into a quick bulletin.

In the last two weeks, a number of cyclists on Irish roads lost their lives. Should we have the same amount of coverage on that, like a terrorist incident? RTE news taking over the daily broadcast to give us 24 hour coverage, updates, expert analysis and interviews?

I thought not.

Depp · 07-04-2017 04:32PM

ScumLord wrote: »

It's not about not covering it, it's about turning it into a spectacle that they make money off. Media companies sensationalise news, I'm sure you'll agree with that. For the most part we put up with it and we in the west know it's sensationalised and can read between the lines. But the terrorists can use that over the top reporting as a recruitment tool showing that their attacks are effective and if the next guy does it he'll become famous and have scary videos made about him. We in the west need to come up with another way of reporting these events.

I agree the coverage is fairly ott but can you see it realistically changing any time soon?

07-04-2017 04:32PM

I would be in the camp of only giving it local news and not 24-hour international coverage that it seems to be. It is the same as school shootings and other aspects like that.

It's just going to make the people that committed the atrocities into "rock stars" (literally looking that way, if the Boston Marathon bombing Rolling Stone cover was anything to go by) and would even further these people's aims.

keano_afc · 07-04-2017 04:34PM

Walter H Price wrote: »

Why do that , they are not mentally ill just religious zealots ... the only issue here is books of fairy tales for grown ups that vindicate , slavery , discrimination , homophobia , war and a whole host of other nasty devise narrow minded views.

No need for psyche wards we just need bonfires for religious texts and bulldozers for religious buildings , we could turn the areas into something nice like parks.

Religion is a cancer , but we already have the cure

My irony meter just exploded

Depp · 07-04-2017 04:34PM

Falthyron wrote: »

In the last two weeks, a number of cyclists on Irish roads lost their lives. Should we have the same amount of coverage on that, like a terrorist incident? RTE news taking over the daily broadcast to give us 24 hour coverage, updates, expert analysis and interviews?

I thought not.

A cyclist losing their life in an accident, and an attack that intentionally kills multiple people are very different situations, why should they receive the same coverage?

HalloweenJack · 07-04-2017 04:34PM

Going to Stockholm next week, can only hope it'll mean tighter security.

I'm sick of these attacks. The only thing I think can be done is crack down on suspected terrorists. It's what they do in Spain because of ETA and the 2004 attack. Every week they arrest a few Islamist extremists in pre-emptive operations. I feel safer here for it.

There is a sizeable Moroccan population as well as numerous immigrants from other Muslim-majority countries, especially Sub-Saharan Africa, in Spain and IS have their eyes on Spain as it used to be part of their caliphate but so far, there's been nothing.

IMO, other countries should be getting in touch with Spain and finding out how they do it.

The Backwards Man · 07-04-2017 04:35PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's precisely it. It's nothing like what people make it out to be but is instead a group of people that is preying on the mentally challenged, the mentally ill.

If you seem to think that autism is just people sticking to routines, then perhaps you should be....

You'll probably get jumped on for that term, but then again, how do you describe someone who can be brainwashed into murdering Innocents? Mentally weak I suppose

ScumLord · 07-04-2017 04:36PM

Depp wrote: »

I agree the coverage is fairly ott but can you see it realistically changing any time soon?

No, this is a big money maker for the media companies, they'll be trying to outdo each other in their reporting. It's why I just don't watch any 24 hour news station, or read any newspapers, if they want to make money off other peoples misery they won't be getting my money.

Widdershins · 07-04-2017 04:36PM

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Ah yeah a couple of pints and a few ham sandwiches might make them chill out a little

I don't drink or eat meat but even if I did I would never impose my lifestyle on someone.. I don't have any interest in disparaging or restricting any religious practise or culture until/unless it is responsible for harming others.

Depp wrote: »

agree with this but still not fair to tar an entire religion the majority of whom disagree with islamist ideals and the sections of the quran that empower them

I know.

Depp · 07-04-2017 04:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I would be in the camp of only giving it local news and not 24-hour international coverage that it seems to be. It is the same as school shootings and other aspects like that.

It's just going to make the people that committed the atrocities into "rock stars" (literally looking that way, if the Boston Marathon bombing Rolling Stone cover was anything to go by) and would even further these people's aims.

I dunno if I can agree with the rockstar analogy, its hardly as if the media portray them in a positive light? in the eyes of a tiny minority they will be glorified but for 99% of people it shows the image of what they actually are, cowardly scum.

A Little Pony · 07-04-2017 04:37PM

Remember when Trump said Sweden is a mess and people got all upset and said it was rubbish etc when in reality if you have been following what has been happening in Sweden for a few years now you would see the issue is clear as day.

Truck driven into crowd in Stockholm - No Speculation

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