Premier League trying to fight streaming, can the war be won?

Cardsharing is going no where. We here this crap every few months. Too much money involved to stop it plus sky would need to upgrade every sd box in uk and Ireland to block it. This is not going happen for years.

If I want to watch my team and they are not on tv then what other option is there apart from streaming.

I already pay for Sky, BT and MUTV.

Karma25 wrote: »

For all the support of a Liverpool only stream i remember Ian arye getting abuse for saying Liverpool should be allowed to sell their own TV rights. The opposition said it would create a bigger gap in quality between the top 6 which I agree with. 5.3 billion shared among the premier league teams rather than 11 billion is quite a substantial amount. La liga is a prime example with the gap between between Barca,Madrid V others.

In terms of the thread I think sky need to up their game and make all games available and you can pick which game you want.

There'd be fairly easy ways to sort that (that wouldn't be popular with the clubs themselves, but it'd reduce the probability of stratification).

You could quite easily have a rule in the league that says that some or all of the TV revenue goes into a pot .

Essentially, it'd be similar to what we have now, except customers wouldn't get screwed over.

Even if the club got 60% of the revenue and the other 40% was split evenly through the league, the lower level teams would still have more money than God.

And you could have flexibile packages as well - a company could rebroadcast each clubs streams so you could pay £x a month and for that you get a dozen matches of your choosing, or whatever.
They'd pay the clubs and you'd pay a slight premium for flexibility, where they could make their profit.


Another issue is that I quite often watch streams even if I've the match on Sky or BT downstairs and even if they're streaming it on that channel.
I want flexibility where I watch but the official streaming services are often worse than supposedly dodgy streams.

Also, there's the ban on 3pm kickoffs being broadcast on Saturday.

It's not the government's business whether random non-league teams loss attendance because people don't want to watch **** football.

If they want to do something about it, then the Football League need to spend some of their billions as leg-up to grassroots and the lower leagues.

Mr.H wrote: »

I just wish they didnt think of us as part of the UK region so they could offer us a similar service (for EPL)

Maybe Brexit will sort that.

Oat23 wrote: »

They offered free upgrades to people using Thomson SD boxes recently. It looks like those boxes may have been what was stopping them.

People have been trying to find a way around Sky IT's block for 18 months now and have had no luck. Sky UK just began rolling out the exact same thing (icam). Why would they stop after just a few channels?

They channels are easily cleared though. They are still clearing on SD boxes. They channels will be back on line by tomorrow evening.

Oat23 wrote: »

So you're saying these channels will all be back tomorrow? Despite Sky UK implementing the same encryption on them that Sky IT uses and has not been cracked in the past 18 months?



Who is giving you this info? Genuinely interested to find out why you think they'll be back tomorrow?

The only way they could come back is if A) Sky removes the encryption or Someone has found a way round it.

Both unlikely.

Only sky alantic is off. I'm watching sky sports 1 now. They have already fixed it but haven't released it yet. Info off techkings which are always reliable. This is there biggest step in a while so maybe something bigger is coming.

Oat23 wrote: »

Techkings is hardly reliable. They promote cheap boxes and unofficial software.
There is little optimism on multics and streamboard.

Try putting on SS1 from 12148 H 27500. It's gone.
TCM, Sky Atlantic and the others are gone too.
TCM +1 and Sky Atlantic +1 both work as they are a different frequency. They will go when they roll out the icam plus encryption.

Every channel on 12148 H is gone.

Maybe your right it might be the end but I have heard it so many times it's hard to believe it. These channels are still clearing on the SD box though until that stops I will remain optimistic.

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

If that big game is on TV at 3pm then a certain % will not go to the lower league game as a result.

Why can't they just move EPL games to a different time? Fans can then watch/attend both. A later time suits The Americas and Asia more as well.

I assume 'tradition' even though the EPL sold out long ago.

You could quite easily allow club based subs and equitable money sharing, which I would be in favour of. If Cardsharing dies, then there is Aceplayer which can never be blocked, and then the next thing and the next thing, so no they will never win this battle.

Inquitus wrote: »

You could quite easily allow club based subs and equitable money sharing, which I would be in favour of. If Cardsharing dies, then there is Aceplayer which can never be blocked, and then the next thing and the next thing, so no they will never win this battle.

It'll work for a while till the few big clubs pulling in 90% of the viewers get greedy and decide they should be getting 90% of the income.

ziggyman17 wrote: »

I would love to have an individual sub to watch all Man Utd games...... But when the day comes that each team can have an individual sub will be the day that football in England is killed, because Man Utd will clean up and if you think their profits are big now, just wait till they can sell individual subs, worldwide they will dwarf every other team going.....

In fairness man how maybe boring draws can you go through before you cancel your subscription

niallo27 wrote: »

Maybe your right it might be the end but I have heard it so many times it's hard to believe it. These channels are still clearing on the SD box though until that stops I will remain optimistic.

This is the end guaranteed, no fix for this one.

enfant terrible wrote: »

This is the end guaranteed, no fix for this one.

Bollox it's not clearing on SD fix is already there.

Sky sports 4 and 1 and HQ still working.