BE strike [Read 1st post before posting]

monument · 31-03-2017 12:20PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

Yeah? And what about the private sector workers being done to pay for the never ending gravy train? F**k them!

Banned.

For a day.

trellheim · 31-03-2017 12:23PM

Jamie - the unions said it could happen, didn't mean they were behind it.

My new best seller - how to say stuff like that with a straight face

thomasj · 31-03-2017 12:26PM

someone actually said to me in the shop, that there could be further action this evening. I said sure its against the union and the reply was "yeah in other words wildcat"

I have my doubts it will happen but if you look at the events of this morning, they were there blocking everything at 6am, and by the time dublin bus were expected to go to the high court getting an injunction, they were gone again.

Quackster · 31-03-2017 12:28PM

Folk who are happy and willing to inflict pain and suffering on others just to vent their own frustrations..!!! :rolleyes:

trellheim · 31-03-2017 12:28PM

People as far as I can see have made plans by now assuming they were going to cause mayhem for the whole day.

ArmaniJeanss · 31-03-2017 12:28PM

thomasj wrote: »

I have my doubts it will happen but if you look at the events of this morning, they were there blocking everything at 6am, and by the time dublin bus were expected to go to the high court getting an injunction, they were gone again.

Presumably DB could still seek an injunction.

jamo2oo9 · 31-03-2017 12:28PM

Are all trains back in operation today from Dublin? I don't see any mention of trains resuming back into service for the Dublin-Belfast train w/ Enterprise, DART and some commuter lines (unsure if DUB-BEL is a commuter train?). Also, could I expect strikes from IE on Sunday?

murphaph · 31-03-2017 12:29PM

Lightning22 wrote: »

The neoliberals want to make this all about costs and suchlike, when it's about a right wing ideological agenda

If I'm a rightwinger for wanting to see value for money from my taxes, then I'm a rightwinger.

Public services are important, but we don't need a state owned bus company providing them.

Stheno · 31-03-2017 12:29PM

Can Dublin bus not get a pre emotive injunction to prevent further action such as this morning's?

Theboinkmaster · 31-03-2017 12:32PM

Do the city bus and train drivers who didn't cross pickets still get their full pay for the day?!

BuffyBot · 31-03-2017 12:33PM

I can't believe I have yet again had to clean up this thread and tell folks to stop feeding the troll. Don't reply, don't quote - just report.

To make it worse the majority of the people doing it are long term posters who should know better

CINCLANTFLT · 31-03-2017 12:35PM

Well based on the attached I went into town to get the 12:00 Air Coach from Westmoreland Street... about 20 people waited until 12:15 but no bus. A tall handsome man rang their customer service and he was lightly scolded for not knowing the buses now go from Ashton Quay... mentioning that the site and app both said Westmorland St...

When we got to Ashton Quay we were told the buses were coming down from the airport nearly full so we would not have gotten seats anyway... and that we should have seen a sign at Westmorland Street to tell us about Ashton Quay... it was a surprise to them that there was no sign...

Back on my way to Heuston now in the hope that the 13:00 runs as per the updates on IE's website

Mebuntu · 31-03-2017 12:44PM

Do the city bus and train drivers who didn't cross pickets still get their full pay for the day?!

They don't deserve to. Going into work past a few blokes standing around carrying scrumpled bits of paper could by no means be construed as passing a picket.

devnull · 31-03-2017 12:46PM

CINCLANTFLT wrote: »

When we got to Ashton Quay we were told the buses were coming down from the airport nearly full so we would not have gotten seats anyway... and that we should have seen a sign at Westmorland Street to tell us about Ashton Quay... it was a surprise to them that there was no sign...

There is additional capacity already provided on most services to deal with the Bus Eireann strike, however the big issue is that this mornings rail strike caught the bus companies unaware so they were not prepared for that as well and it takes several hours to mobilize extra buses and the companies Citylink, Aircoach and others use for extra capacity are generally already providing a fair bit so they are having to find alternatives.

Well based on the attached I went into town to get the 12:00 Air Coach from Westmoreland Street... about 20 people waited until 12:15 but no bus. A tall handsome man rang their customer service and he was lightly scolded for not knowing the buses now go from Ashton Quay... mentioning that the site and app both said Westmorland St...

They should fix their site.

animaal · 31-03-2017 12:49PM

Stheno wrote: »

Can Dublin bus not get a pre emotive injunction to prevent further action such as this morning's?

Probably. For all the good it would do.

If the union has no hand in this, then the individuals who undertake illegal secondary picketing should be held to account for damages - personally.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 31-03-2017 12:52PM

animaal wrote: »

Probably. For all the good it would do.

If the union has no hand in this, then the individuals who undertake illegal secondary picketing should be held to account for damages - personally.

There's absolutely no way the unions didn't have a hand in this. They can play the innocent card all they like, but the organisation of getting in and out before the high court injunction was not done by average Joe bus driver.

Quackster · 31-03-2017 12:53PM

animaal wrote: »

Probably. For all the good it would do.

If the union has no hand in this, then the individuals who undertake illegal secondary picketing should be held to account for damages - personally.

DB would have to individually identify the picketers and name them in the injunction application. Hopefully BE management would provide every assistance in this regard.

ArmaniJeanss · 31-03-2017 01:00PM

Quackster wrote: »

DB would have to individually identify the picketers and name them in the injunction application.

Injunctions against 'persons unknown' are perfectly ok as well.

L1011 · 31-03-2017 01:00PM

Quackster wrote: »

DB would have to individually identify the picketers and name them in the injunction application. Hopefully BE management would provide every assistance in this regard.

Not required - general injunctions against water meter protests were given for instance

Mebuntu · 31-03-2017 01:06PM

Quackster wrote: »

DB would have to individually identify the picketers and name them in the injunction application. Hopefully BE management would provide every assistance in this regard.

From the Indo, here are some of them.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/transport-strike-pickets-lifted-but-travel-chaos-continues-after-wildcat-action-hit-bus-and-trains-countrywide-35581629.html

In the picture further down you can see one with his face covered up.

boombang · 31-03-2017 01:07PM

I'm asking the following on a technical/legal basis:

If the picketers are participating in an illegal strike can they not be dismissed from the jobs for doing so?

Now I know the reality of public sector politics are that you can't get sack for doing anything in this country, but would it be technically possible if you were able to photograph all the picketers to identify them and send them packing? I know that question will annoy a load of the plastic comrades out there, but that's not the point.

Mrs OBumble · 31-03-2017 01:08PM

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

There's absolutely no way the unions didn't have a hand in this. They can play the innocent card all they like, but the organisation of getting in and out before the high court injunction was not done by average Joe bus driver.

I recall the last Bus Eireann strike, when it emerged that the union didn't have control over their members (a GoBe bus in Cork was effectively held hostage). I don't think that the union would allow that to happen again. Too damaging.

devnull · 31-03-2017 01:14PM

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I recall the last Bus Eireann strike, when it emerged that the union didn't have control over their members (a GoBe bus in Cork was effectively held hostage). I don't think that the union would allow that to happen again. Too damaging.

Well that happened last week as well, so...

Fred Swanson · 31-03-2017 01:19PM

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Hilly Bill · 31-03-2017 01:24PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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No strike pay for them so. You picket your place of work and that's it. It's bully boy tactics to force staff of a different company to not go to work.

fxotoole · 31-03-2017 01:29PM

Hilly Bill wrote: »

No strike pay for them so. You picket your place of work and that's it. It's bully boy tactics to force staff of a different company to not go to work.

It's scumbaggery of the highest order is what it is.

Hilly Bill · 31-03-2017 01:32PM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Bet you would keep that to yourself rather than say it to you colleagues?

You don't know me :-). If it's not our picket then it shouldn't be there so it's simple to cross.

Hilly Bill · 31-03-2017 01:33PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Do the city bus and train drivers who didn't cross pickets still get their full pay for the day?!

No.

n97 mini · 31-03-2017 01:35PM

Hilly Bill wrote: »

No.

It comes out of their annual leave so? If they get paid while not at work they're either sick (clearly not) or on a half day.

Kristopherus · 31-03-2017 01:38PM

boombang wrote: »

I'm asking the following on a technical/legal basis:

If the picketers are participating in an illegal strike can they not be dismissed from the jobs for doing so?

Now I know the reality of public sector politics are that you can't get sack for doing anything in this country, but would it be technically possible if you were able to photograph all the picketers to identify them and send them packing? I know that question will annoy a load of the plastic comrades out there, but that's not the point.

I thought, wrongly, that secondary unofficial picketing had been outlawed years ago.

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