Ghost in the Shell-Live Action 2017

Potential-Monke · 05-02-2017 12:34PM

I will say, i was completely disappointed when they replaced nudity with a nude suit. Especially when i found out it was Scarlett....

Anyway, looks good to me, i won't be watching anything more to do with it until i go to see it. Best way to follow movies these days, avoid nearly everything to do with them until you've seen them.

Mr E · 13-02-2017 02:00PM

Trailer 2...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrdHQ9WHAY

Effects · 13-02-2017 06:39PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I will say, i was completely disappointed when they replaced nudity with a nude suit. Especially when i found out it was Scarlett....

Yeah, like that was ever going to happen.

brianregan09 · 13-02-2017 09:05PM

I can't wait for this

Slydice · 01-03-2017 07:29PM

Scarlett Johansson is putting in a top performance in everything I've seen so far for this film.

pixelburp · 22-03-2017 04:06PM

The 'first 5 minutes' has been released (presumably trimmed a little for violence, language or whatever).

The palette is certainly bold and colourful, so even if it transpires to be a poor adaptation, it may be something to enjoy visually anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9n3gJRrHhk

bnt · 27-03-2017 07:13PM

One final trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8S7_ZY8Y0k

I was surprised to hear that original theme again - it wasn't in the other trailers I've seen.

Varik · 29-03-2017 04:32PM

Much Longer, includes the last long trailer and then some

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI1OcuBObz4

me_irl · 29-03-2017 04:42PM

pixelburp wrote: »

The 'first 5 minutes' has been released (presumably trimmed a little for violence, language or whatever).

The palette is certainly bold and colourful, so even if it transpires to be a poor adaptation, it may be something to enjoy visually anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9n3gJRrHhk

I lasted a minute and forty five seconds before coming to the conclusion that I'm not going to bother seeing this in the cinema.

It's primarily my own "purists" fault, but it almost looks like they just played Syndicate and decided to follow the aesthetic of that (even to star Michael Wincott).

Hang on... Batou doesn't have his ocular implants yet? So, they're going to work that in to the plot to pad it out?

Gingervitis · 29-03-2017 05:55PM

Early reviews are better than I thought it would be:
62 on Metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/movie/ghost-in-the-shell-2017?ref=hp
67 on Rotten Tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghost_in_the_shell_2017

Considering my low expectations, might be worth a look. Consensus is that it's visually stunning while simplifying all the existentialism; par for the course for Hollywood.

Mickeroo · 30-03-2017 10:05AM

Are the Tachikoma in it?

me_irl · 30-03-2017 11:17AM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Are the Tachikoma in it?

Asking the important questions! :pac:

Doesn't reference it on this page or in the synopsis, so it doesn't look like it.

Mickeroo · 30-03-2017 11:18AM

Well that sucks

BlitzKrieg · 31-03-2017 01:13AM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Are the Tachikoma in it?

nope

simple review: its pretty much the stallone Judge Dredd movie all over again.

Its a film with a star far too big for the role and an adaptation that decides to give an origin story to a character that didnt ever need one, a heavily sanitised version of the world with the same cliche plotline beats and a few key elements or characters recreated shot for shot for fans all wrapped in a soulless carcass of a film that touches all the expectations of the time (90's humour for Dredd and the heroes tale for today with all the trappings of franchising into a series for Shell)

so not worth seeing, more so if you are a fan of the original, it'll just p*ss you off.

nix · 31-03-2017 02:53AM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

simple review: its pretty much the stallone Judge Dredd movie all over again.

I knew you'd say that...

:D:D

Mickeroo · 31-03-2017 08:39AM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

nope

simple review: its pretty much the stallone Judge Dredd movie all over again.

Its a film with a star far too big for the role and an adaptation that decides to give an origin story to a character that didnt ever need one, a heavily sanitised version of the world with the same cliche plotline beats and a few key elements or characters recreated shot for shot for fans all wrapped in a soulless carcass of a film that touches all the expectations of the time (90's humour for Dredd and the heroes tale for today with all the trappings of franchising into a series for Shell)

so not worth seeing, more so if you are a fan of the original, it'll just p*ss you off.

That was the biggest red flag in the trailer for me.

eviltimeban · 31-03-2017 10:03AM

Saw it last night, very meh. Nothing we haven't seen before. There wasn't an ounce of humour or personality in it, not sure how close it was to the source material (and I'm guessing the source material is the reason we've seen it all before).

SJ was OK in the role, as you'd expect. Like a less-wry version of Black Widow. Effects were good but the fight sequences were nothing to write home about. Plot was pretty thin.

me_irl · 31-03-2017 10:53AM

eviltimeban wrote: »

Saw it last night, very meh. Nothing we haven't seen before. There wasn't an ounce of humour or personality in it, not sure how close it was to the source material (and I'm guessing the source material is the reason we've seen it all before).

SJ was OK in the role, as you'd expect. Like a less-wry version of Black Widow. Effects were good but the fight sequences were nothing to write home about. Plot was pretty thin.

If there's one good thing that comes from this, it's that I hope more people will be spurred to watch the 1995 movie.

There's a great openculture article on it that was just posted recently (cautious of spoilers for the 1995 film!)

http://www.openculture.com/2017/03/the-philosophy-storytelling-visual-creativity-of-ghost-in-the-shell.html

(they've just recently started doing that "turn off your ad blocker" ad, disabling javascript on the page circumvents this)

geraardo · 31-03-2017 05:37PM

From what i have heard and the trailer i have seen its a lot of eye candy with the story falling short as usually happens with manga crossover films for me anyway, i can't think of any off the top of my head which have worked.

I was listening to moncrieff this afternoon on news talk (movies and booze) and they were reviewing it and the prognosis was as i said above visually stunning cyber punk stuff but it just falls flat.

Im a huge fan of the series myself so I'm undecided on whether to watch this as i don't want it to ruin the series of the animated ones i have in my head.

If a person has no idea what the film is about they might see if differently from people who know the characters and what the film is about so might have a totally different take on it, and might just see it as a sci-fi film.

restive · 01-04-2017 11:23PM

I enjoyed it. I saw Ghost in the Shell in IMC Athlone. The film was very good. Unfortunately the cinema chose to show it on one the smaller screens. I could not read some of the subtitles during the showing because the were of screen. It really should have been shown on one of the larger screens. Not good management.

pixelburp · 03-04-2017 09:39AM

Nowhere near as bad as it could have been, but also didn't surprise in terms of how shallow this adaptation ended up. Mind you, it felt somewhat appropriate that an American remake of a film about artificial humanity should itself be cold and without much spark of life. I'm sure that was a coincidence mind you.

That said, there was enjoyment to be had, if the viewer dialled back their expectations and left their cynicism at the door; essentially this was an entertaining cyber-thriller that felt like a bit of a throwback - in a good way. Yes, this film is essentially redundant but there was definitely a lot of craft and love put into the production, the screen dense with colour and detail of a vision of the future turned to 11. It was nice to see a budget stretch its legs and really commit to something vaguely outlandish, instead of the standard 'day after tomorrow' settings. And while there was much publicity about the admittedly poor decision to whitewash the cast, it had enough of an in-fiction reason & Tokyo was so aggressively multi-cultural, the problem faded away a little (though that aspect about 'refugees' felt annoyingly underwritten and could have elevated the script in turning the table on topical immigration fears).

All in all, totally forgettable & Johansson can do these sci-fi actioners in her sleep at this stage, but this wasn't the total disaster I suspect a lot of people braced themselves for. Empty, but not terrible.

constitutionus · 03-04-2017 04:16PM

just back from it now and i hate to say it but i found it to be mostly "Meh"

its not BAD, and its gorgeous to look at and well acted throughout i just couldnt get all that invested in the story (which is mad cause there was some really nice ideas in there in realation to what it means to be human and individuality).

I havent seen the original anime and didnt read the books so ive no idea how faithful it is to the source material but all i can think of now is if it IS then "Deus EX" have ripped the hell out of it as what i mainly thought was "this is as close to a Deus Ex film im going to get."

did love yer man "batou"s look, VERY cable -ish and bodes well to how that lad should look in deadpool 2 .

all in all its 6/10 from me.

not a bad time, i just cant tell someone its a cinema price experience.

BlitzKrieg · 03-04-2017 04:55PM

On the topic of the film at least looking good one thing that I thought looked god awful in the film was the spider tank.

I dont know how someone could so completely and utterly f*ck up the design and motion of the spider tank, especially when you have so much soure material to draw from (not just the ghost in the shell animated movie, spider tanks are all over the place in cyberpunk and other sci fi material) I mean for f*ck sake even Terminator Genysis got it closer then the trash in this film.

sorry it is such a tiny part of the film, but it soured the whole *leave your brain at home and enjoy it as an action film* towards the end. The rest of me had already checked out well before hand.

ancapailldorcha · 04-04-2017 01:12PM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

so not worth seeing, more so if you are a fan of the original, it'll just p*ss you off.

I've not actually seen the original. Was debating seeing this but the comments here are quite discouraging.

Victor · 04-04-2017 11:52PM

How does Batou escape the assassins? Did I miss something?

[Fr Dougal singing voice]
Spider Tank
Spider Tank
Spider Tank
Why do you only have six legs?

Outlaw Pete · 05-04-2017 12:20AM

Seen it in the IMAX and while visually I was entertained, somewhat, I just felt bored overall.

I was initially interested in the story and then it just droned on a bit too long without much of interest happening.

Then when she gets given her history and helped to escape being deleted / killed or whatever, I thought 'Nice one, this might pick up now'.... which it did tbf... but only for three and half minutes and then I was bored again.

Couldn't wait for it to end tbh and only I was sitting in the middle of a row and didn't want to bother folks.. I would've walked two thirds way through.

Highlight for me was seeing the DeLorean ... which I guess was a tip of the hat to Zemeckis.

06-04-2017 05:03PM

I was bored silly in it. One of the few times I wanted to walk out during a movie. Bland acting - everyone just sounds bored. The action somehow seemed all over the place. Felt a lot longer than the relatively short runtime. Looked beautiful and stylish. as. hell, but that was about it.

Overheal · 06-04-2017 08:26PM

I liked it, not understanding the hate. When you strip away all the negative hype around the movie, it's good. It apparently is not making great returns in the US because Social Justice Warriors have been on a whitewashing crusade for a while now, and GiTS is just swept up in it. Even though, its perfectly sensible casting for the part in this case. The reaction in Japan is completely indifferent to the race issue. Its hypocritical for instance that nobody gives a **** that Ishikawa is black; nope but if Kusanagi is a white American well holy **** stop right there and check your privilege!

Visually stunning, making it worth seeing at the movies. Kuze was rather interesting, but it is clear they were burdened by a lot of world-building in this film as they touched too lightly at times at things that deserve more depth (like false memories and cyberbrain hacking) and there wasn't time in this adaptation to fit extras in, like closer looks at most of the Section 9 crew or the Tachikomas, but spider-tanks are at least known to exist. At other times I felt like maybe they were a little too careful for example, to make sure everyone in the audience knew that they could communicate by cyberbrain comms because its mentioned a couple times.

There are some clear departures from the anime canon, but these aren't in ways that would injure anyone's ability to appreciate the film, its mostly backstory stuff. One thing I would have liked is if Aramaki had the bald forehead :P but he actually did things in this and wasn't just a mouthpiece. I'm very happy with the film and look forward to sequels. Don't see this not getting a sequel, even with lackluster monetary returns on the first go.

johnny_ultimate · 06-04-2017 08:52PM

The film is, to be brutally honest, a bit ****.

It manages to be both overbaked and underrealised at the same time. Take the cityscapes: they're simply a cacophony of neon stuff, coming across as obnoxious sensory overload with none of the careful world-building seen in its many obvious inspirations. Visually it is glitzy but with almost nothing in the way of internal consistency or identity. This is a film that has been art designed to within an inch of its life, and only some of the designs - such as the fleeting establishing shots of futuristic tenements - manage to stick.

There's no way to describe the story other than it being a complete ****ing mess. Been a while since I've seen a film with such a complete lack of flow or pace. I've always felt the original anime - which I like but think is a less interesting film than many of its contemporaries - gets far too weighed down in its convoluted plot, but this goes further again. By around half an hour in I couldn't have cared less about the overarching conspiracies involved or barely explained motivations of the characters. It's a silly story poorly told, and wastes far too much time on the origin story.

I didn't have much issue with the 'whitewashing' before release - as nice it would be to have a talented Japanese actress in the role, this is an English-language film about a robotic woman so whatever. But jesus the filmmakers didn't do themselves any favours by attempting to create an absurd, in-film rationale for it that just came across as ludicrous in action. The multi-cultural Tokyo worked, the 'lore' explanation for the race-change simply distracting.

On the plus side, there was 45 seconds or so where Beat Takeshi got to be a badass.

Stick with the original - it's no Akira, but it's solid. This isn't even the best film about an emotionally-cold Scarlett Johannson coming to terms with not being 'human' (that'd be Under the Skin, or indeed Her). This is a bland, pointless film that runs out of steam before act two even begins.

skankkuvhima · 07-04-2017 09:26AM

Went to see it last night, I thought it was pretty good. I thought the original was a bit up it's own hole (I think that about most anime to be honest) so this version was much more accessible to people who have no interest in Japanese animation

Ghost in the Shell-Live Action 2017

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