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mfceiling · 30-03-2017 04:47PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

+1

Unfortunately the biggest problem with the EU/ECB is that its run by the type of people who will make the exact same mistake the next time.

I think this is what a lot of people in Britain saw when they came to the Brexit vote.

CMOTDibbler · 30-03-2017 05:37PM

mfceiling wrote: »

I think this is what a lot of people in Britain saw when they came to the Brexit vote.

I thought it was this:

And we've gone full circle.

irishbucsfan · 30-03-2017 05:42PM

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/30/ec_push_encryption_backdoors/

The European Commission will in June push for backdoor access to encryption used by apps, according to EU Justice Commissioner Věra Jourová

Oh well, there was me thinking it would only be the UK who were subjected to such nonsense.

CMOTDibbler · 30-03-2017 06:09PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/30/ec_push_encryption_backdoors/

Oh well, there was me thinking it would only be the UK who were subjected to such nonsense.

It was inevitable really. But not sure how much good it will do since the people they're trying to catch will have access to their own systems outside the mainstream.

30-03-2017 06:13PM

Stheno wrote: »

Any of you guys use groups on linkedin?

I don't know wtf they have done with their layout now but it's rotten.

Linkedin going through a lot of changes. They've back tracked on some because they have been crap.

It's a recruitment tool at the end of the day and nothing more than that.

stephen_n · 30-03-2017 08:59PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/30/ec_push_encryption_backdoors/

Oh well, there was me thinking it would only be the UK who were subjected to such nonsense.

It's bull**** too, the Belgian attackers and French too were using text messages.

CMOTDibbler · 30-03-2017 10:28PM

stephen_n wrote: »

It's bull**** too, the Belgian attackers and French too were using text messages.

You'd be very naive if you believed that text messages were all you had to worry about.

30-03-2017 10:33PM

Blood Brothers the musical is on in the Bord Gais at the moment. Absolutely fantastic, really recommend it if there are tickets left. The run will end soon though

wp_rathead · 30-03-2017 11:15PM

Kailani Dirty Teenager wrote: »

Blood Brothers the musical is on in the Bord Gais at the moment. Absolutely fantastic, really recommend it if there are tickets left. The run will end soon though

Unfortunately work is bananas for me at the moment so not able to get to it, meant to be really good alright. But on the bright side the album for Groundhog Day the Musical is out in two weeks and can't wait - was class when I saw it in London

Dave_The_Sheep · 30-03-2017 11:30PM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

You'd be very naive if you believed that text messages were all you had to worry about.

I'd be more worried about our own governments and various state agencies access to anything I felt the need to encrypt than I would terrorism to be honest.

Erik Shin · 30-03-2017 11:49PM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

I'd be more worried about our own governments and various state agencies access to anything I felt the need to encrypt than I would terrorism to be honest.

Enda ready knows about your midget porn fetish

thomond2006 · 30-03-2017 11:53PM

Kailani Dirty Teenager wrote: »

Blood Brothers the musical is on in the Bord Gais at the moment. Absolutely fantastic, really recommend it if there are tickets left. The run will end soon though

I saw Blood Brothers 8-9 years ago in the Gaiety and couldn't agree more.

Dave_The_Sheep · 31-03-2017 12:30AM

Erik Shin wrote: »

Enda ready knows about your midget porn fetish

Oh, aye. But I've moved onto nugget porn these days, and I'd rather keep that one a secret...

... sh*t.

pickarooney · 31-03-2017 05:19AM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Oh, aye. But I've moved onto nugget porn these days, and I'd rather keep that one a secret...

... sh*t.

So that's what Cronin has been up to during rehab, the saucy divil.

Yeah_Right · 31-03-2017 06:57AM

Erik Shin wrote: »

Enda ready knows about your midget porn fetish

Imagine what he knows about awec

stephen_n · 31-03-2017 07:12AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

You'd be very naive if you believed that text messages were all you had to worry about.

I mean they weren't using encrypted messages, the notion being that encryption is a security risk. The only real risk it poses is lack of access to big data. Especially since Trump just removed any privacy on the internet. All data is now a commodity, even your medical records.

Erik Shin · 31-03-2017 07:54AM

Bus Eireann guys picketing outside Heuston station this morning.. Trying to stop trains leaving?...Could turn any good feeling by the public completely against them.

sydthebeat · 31-03-2017 08:04AM

Erik Shin wrote: »

Bus Eireann guys picketing outside Heuston station this morning.. Trying to stop trains leaving?...Could turn any good feeling by the public completely against them.

Good feeling?
I don't think they have had any....

Yeah_Right · 31-03-2017 08:06AM

It often amazes me how dumb unions are. I think the general public mostly support the workers but they always seem to do stupid **** that turn the people against them. The Luas driver strike was a prime example.

CMOTDibbler · 31-03-2017 08:08AM

stephen_n wrote: »

I mean they weren't using encrypted messages, the notion being that encryption is a security risk. The only real risk it poses is lack of access to big data. Especially since Trump just removed any privacy on the internet. All data is now a commodity, even your medical records.

End to end encryption systems on mobile devices like WhatsApp are currently unbreakable. Hence the need for a backdoor. It's only the tip of the iceberg though because you can continue to write private apps on android and defeat any backdoors. But that's at the top end of terrorism, your run of the mill radicalised Beligian/French/British guy wouldn't have access to them.

The Trump thing only applies to ISPs in the US. The equivalent of Vodafone or Eir here.

Buer · 31-03-2017 08:15AM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

It often amazes me how dumb unions are. I think the general public mostly support the workers but they always seem to do stupid **** that turn the people against them. The Luas driver strike was a prime example.

Donal O'Leary on Newstalk claiming that he had no knowledge of this and is recommending that his members cease their secondary action immediately.

Right. He's the general secretary of a national trade union which has escalated their dispute to picket secondary locations nationwide but he had no clue that it was going to happen. Is he for f*cking real?

I actually had some level of sympathy for the reasoning behind this strike initially. But that has evaporated this morning. They've gone completely all out to try and hurt the country as significantly as possible.

irishbucsfan · 31-03-2017 08:17AM

The proposed laws about encryption do not only apply to applications like WhatsApp. It applies to all encrypted communication.

It damages the rights of the individuals in Europe, while putting the individuals security at risk, and will do nothing to improve security against terrorism.

Buer · 31-03-2017 08:19AM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I think the general public mostly support the workers but they always seem to do stupid **** that turn the people against them. The Luas driver strike was a prime example.

I wouldn't think that's the case at all, to be honest.

I'd say the Bus Eireann strike is one of the more supported strikes and, although it's very open to manipulation, The Journal held an open poll on their action a week ago. 61% of votes did not support the action.

There's a huge split between public and private in this country with the majority of private workers having no desire to support the action of a number of public sectors. Transport has been front and centre this year and has very little support.

irishbucsfan · 31-03-2017 08:29AM

I'd imagine most of the people who don't support the strike aren't fully aware of the causes of it. I've no evidence to support that, but that's been the general feeling I've gotten recently from hearing people complaining about them 'striking for more money'.

CMOTDibbler · 31-03-2017 08:34AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

The proposed laws about encryption do not only apply to applications like WhatsApp. It applies to all encrypted communication.

It damages the rights of the individuals in Europe, while putting the individuals security at risk, and will do nothing to improve security against terrorism.

Well it would be a factor in investigations into terrorist actions post facto. However, as I said above, it's unlikely to be very effective with the use of VPNs or private apps. I fully agree that it also poses a threat to all encrypted communications. I've not seen mention of anything other than apps like WhatsApp, but I also don't believe it will go through as proposed.

irishbucsfan · 31-03-2017 08:38AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Well it would be a factor in investigations into terrorist actions post facto. However, as I said above, it's unlikely to be very effective with the use of VPNs or private apps. I fully agree that it also poses a threat to all encrypted communications. I've not seen mention of anything other than apps like WhatsApp, but I also don't believe it will go through as proposed.

The proposed European legislation would apply to all encrypted communication, which would then mean it applies to pretty much anything they want it to. I'm yet to see a proposal on how they intend for companies to make this work technically.

But its not remotely worth it. I really hope if the EU bring this in in June that we have the means to opt out of it in some way, not that I believe we would just that
I hope the mechanism exists for us to do this.

Podge_irl · 31-03-2017 08:39AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I'd imagine most of the people who don't support the strike aren't fully aware of the causes of it. I've no evidence to support that, but that's been the general feeling I've gotten recently from hearing people complaining about them 'striking for more money'.

What is the cause of it?

errlloyd · 31-03-2017 08:48AM

I dislike the position of leverage transport workers have over the government. I'm not sure what gives BE drivers the right to cause this level of disruption. It has no semblance of proportionality.

But from a purely personal level. It gives me a nice excuse to work from home.

Yeah_Right · 31-03-2017 08:50AM

Buer wrote: »

I wouldn't think that's the case at all, to be honest.

I'd say the Bus Eireann strike is one of the more supported strikes and, although it's very open to manipulation, The Journal held an open poll on their action a week ago. 61% of votes did not support the action.

There's a huge split between public and private in this country with the majority of private workers having no desire to support the action of a number of public sectors. Transport has been front and centre this year and has very little support.

Sorry, when I said "the workers" I was meaning in a general sense rather than in just this specific case. IMO Irish people seem to be quite supportive of unions but then the unions piss them off and lose the support.

To be honest I haven't really followed this dispute.

Buer · 31-03-2017 08:56AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I'd imagine most of the people who don't support the strike aren't fully aware of the causes of it. I've no evidence to support that, but that's been the general feeling I've gotten recently from hearing people complaining about them 'striking for more money'.

That's generally the case. It's a very black and white assessment without having any real notion of what the background is. The root causes of the situation need to be examined in depth.

I genuinely do have some sympathy for them. But this bullsh*t erodes that sympathy hugely.

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