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Performance chip?

  • 29-03-2017 10:34AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭


    Anyone have any experience with these crowd?

    https://www.italianspeed.eu/

    Have a small diesel that could do with a bit more pep. I like the fact it can be removed without major issues. I've done a bit of googling and found some positive reviews. Any thoughts?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    It's offering me 45bhp extra for under €80! Lower mpg too.

    I'd say it's rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    It may be rubbish, but at that price its tempting rubbish! If I had a banger I'd be all over this.


  • Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some of those yokes just increase accelerator response .

    Whats the car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    puegeot 207 1.4 HDI, at 68bph it's saying it would achieve 100 which is a nice jump.

    https://www.italianspeed.eu/en/chiptuning-peugeot-206/chiptuning-peugeot-206-14-hdi-68-hp-1100.html

    I'm considering purchasing. If it doesn't work I'll send back. It's a plug and play and requires no recabling.

    Sounds too good to be true but I'd imagine there would be more bad reviews out there if it really was a box with some flashing lights and nothing else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭tossy


    If it plugs into anything fuel related then it's not a proper remap its just a device that will trick the ECU into injecting more fuel for more bang, it will be a very low increase in power but will happen over a very short period as the fuel is injected so it will 'feel' a lot quicker when in fact it's not.

    I've had many cars 'tuned' diesel and petrol and not once did the economy improve.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,532 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    A proper remap of the ECU or tuning box from the likes of Bluefin is the way to go imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Four Phucs Ache


    That's a 47% increase for less than 80 quid.

    Load of balls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,532 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    If results like that could be achieved then the manufacturer would have done it in the factory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    I'm skeptical, it's probably snake oil but for 80E plug and play with no cables to cut. There are some vids on youtube of people installing them, of course there could be a "placebo" effect... "Engine sounds different... better" (Yeah coz you have your bonnet up mate...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Four Phucs Ache


    To add to my skepticism it is only 80 quid.Get it and see what happens and review it.

    I fitted a scorpion exhaust to a Micra in 99 and I swear the thing went faster in 2nd when I floored it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,532 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    At best they reel you in by paying €80 for something that doesn't work, at worst you damage your car's ECU or other component by plugging in an unproven €80 resister/cable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    https://www.italianspeed.eu/en/chiptuning-ford-focus/chiptuning-ford-focus-16-tdci-109-hp-80-kw-2140.html

    Its just a very simple device to trick the ECU to increase the fuel pressure as its interferes with the common rail fuel pressure sensor. €1 in parts would do the same as a voltage divider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,829 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    52 more hp but -21% fuel economy and -1.5 seconds 0-60? Bollox to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭mikeecho




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    https://www.italianspeed.eu/en/chiptuning-bmw-7/chiptuning-bmw-7-740d-313-hp-230-kw-1822.html

    adds 100bhp to a 740d apparently.

    standard crap of tricking the injectors into adding more fuel, you won't get the increase it claims but it just makes your car run rich, thats it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,832 ✭✭✭Neilw


    This is most likely what you're buying, a few cents worth of parts.

    nemtuningbox.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    So yous think I should buy one and try it out for the sake of putting this one to bed?

    Putting aside science and everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Xcellor wrote: »
    So yous think I should buy one and try it out for the sake of putting this one to bed?

    Putting aside science and everything.

    Buy two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,832 ✭✭✭Neilw


    Xcellor wrote: »
    So yous think I should buy one and try it out for the sake of putting this one to bed?

    Putting aside science and everything.

    Don't waste your €80, IMO if you want more power get a proper remap instead of a plug in device. It will probably cost 5x as much but at least you'll get what you pay for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Buy two.

    link them all together and get 500 horses out of it sure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,532 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Thread should definitely be over on the Bargain Alerts forum. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Neilw wrote: »
    Don't waste your €80, IMO if you want more power get a proper remap instead of a plug in device. It will probably cost 5x as much but at least you'll get what you pay for.

    Given the amount of rust, and the quality of repairs done to the OPs car, all those extra ponies will pull it apart.


    Go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Four Phucs Ache


    As outlined by above posters it's a box of shoite to make the car run rich on fuel.

    If you take all the crap and junk out of your car like I have you will go faster.For about 3 months I had about 80kg of tools and man junk in the 1.4 focus so I emptied it and the thing felt like a rocket for a while.I had no fear overtaking tdi's

    Use that 80 to buy your woman a bottle of perfume and get yourself 40 1 euro scratch cards instead of this Italian voodoo magic box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Given the amount of rust, and the quality of repairs done to the OPs car, all those extra ponies will pull it apart.


    Go for it.

    hah different car scrapped it yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Op..

    Get the car dynoed, then buy the Italian tuning box,

    Get the car dynoed again.

    Post pics here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    Well after further consideration I decided what the heck. So I bought an Italian Box Pro. The feedback on eBay was quite impressive.

    http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=ansproteus&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=161813967773&sspagename=VIP%3Afeedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller

    So I received the box (ill take some pictures at weekend and post).

    Installation maybe happen next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    We look forward to your disappoi.... I mean, results. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    dar83 wrote: »
    We look forward to your disappoi.... I mean, results. :P

    With over 1000 positive feedback and only 1 negative review I have to believe it does something... I know if it doesn't give any appreciable difference I'll be posting some negative feedback!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Xcellor wrote: »
    With over 1000 positive feedback and only 1 negative review I have to believe it does something... I know if it doesn't give any appreciable difference I'll be posting some negative feedback!


    Does it look like the pic in #17?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Does it look like the pic in #17?

    It's probably a neater job..
    Like this :

    image005.jpg


    just look at the attention to detail.

    The finest hand crafted workmanship.


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