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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    Had someone skip into the bus lane this morning approaching Patrick's cathedral without checking her blind spot. It wasn't really a near miss as I kinda saw it coming, but 100ft up the road there was a cyclist on the ground in front of a golf that had done the same thing. Two peds were helping him up and he seemed ok, if a little shook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    I'm not sure what else they could have done on Bird Ave. Unless they were to take away all parking to put in a bike lane, but you can just imagine the uproar that would result from that.


    .

    Perhaps if you drive up Bird Avenue and look at the 3m wide footpaths?


    You can guess what happens when the church carpark or the sports ground carpark is full


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,321 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    there's a spot on the r130, heading east from garristown towards the oldtown/naul road, where twice in my last three times on it, i've had to stick out the hand to warn a car approaching from behind not to overtake, as there was oncoming traffic. and both times the person behind me seems to have mistaken that for an 'overtake as fast as you can' signal. i must be doing something wrong, or maybe the drivers behind think i must have some form of tourettes.

    on sunday, it was a 4x4 pulling a horsebox who was the oncoming traffic. he got a little bit of a start, waved a thank you at me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    there's a spot on the r130, heading east from garristown towards the oldtown/naul road, where twice in my last three times on it, i've had to stick out the hand to warn a car approaching from behind not to overtake, as there was oncoming traffic. and both times the person behind me seems to have mistaken that for an 'overtake as fast as you can' signal. i must be doing something wrong, or maybe the drivers behind think i must have some form of tourettes.

    on sunday, it was a 4x4 pulling a horsebox who was the oncoming traffic. he got a little bit of a start, waved a thank you at me.

    This is a tough one, I had a dublin bus tailgate me on a narrow road a while back and I attempted to gesture "back off/wait" and he overtook very tightly. When I spoke to him he said I had waved him on. Since then I use arm-out signal, like I'm turning right, then just take the lane. Not always possible but works the majority of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I was driving down the Templeville road towards Terenure today, through both roundabouts as I do quite frequently. As I came onto the roundabout at Cypress Grove I saw a cyclist coming from Wainsfort road, passing on the left of the traffic sitting waiting.

    As I drove around the roundabout I could see the cyclist with his head turned looking straight at me, but he never stopped and as I exited the roundabout he then came straight out in front of me. I braked and missed him by inches, but if I hadn't already seen him and been wary of him I have no doubt I would have hit him full on.

    Considering what had happened on that road just the day before I couldn't believe how utterly stupid that guy was, but the fact is that I see such behavior very regularly on that road and at those roundabouts. The cycle lane is marked right around the roundabout but many cyclists seem to think it being marked gives them right of way over any vehicles already on the roundabout.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Right, lads, point to be raised at the compulsory weekly meeting of all Irish cyclists on Thursday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Right, lads, point to be raised at the compulsory weekly meeting of all Irish cyclists on Thursday.

    Typical dismissive answer, but do you not think that the markings on those roundabouts give rise to these sorts of incidents? Is there not a case to be made for better information on what those markings mean?

    The thread title says "near misses", are you only interested in those that weren't the cyclists fault?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Typical dismissive answer, but do you not think that the markings on those roundabouts give rise to these sorts of incidents? Is there not a case to be made for better information on what those markings mean?

    Not dismissive but simply recognising that other cyclists are no more responsible for a stupid act by a cyclist than you, as a driver, are for all the idiots who use their phone while in the car, say.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,321 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Danbo! wrote: »
    This is a tough one, I had a dublin bus tailgate me on a narrow road a while back and I attempted to gesture "back off/wait" and he overtook very tightly. When I spoke to him he said I had waved him on. Since then I use arm-out signal, like I'm turning right, then just take the lane. Not always possible but works the majority of the time.
    i'm not sure if you can mistake an arm shot out, splayed fingers, and palm facing backwards as a 'coast is clear to overtake' manouevre, in the situations i've mentioned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    i'm not sure if you can mistake an arm shot out, splayed fingers, and palm facing backwards as a 'coast is clear to overtake' manouevre, in the situations i've mentioned.

    I particularly like the idea of siccing an earworm on the drivers. A-wim-a-weh-a-wim-a-weh

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,321 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yeah, when people beep at me i give them a nice cheery wave. to be fair, on at least one occasion, it has enraged them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    i'm not sure if you can mistake an arm shot out, splayed fingers, and palm facing backwards as a 'coast is clear to overtake' manouevre, in the situations i've mentioned.

    Yeah you'd think that alright, but I guess they either misinterpret or just dont care.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Cameras on Bus lanes would stop this. In certain places if you've not left it within so many metres a fixed fine immediately. Same as with cameras at lights. It would free up gardai to police the dangerous driving etc that cameras alone can't.
    I still cannot understand why this is not done. The N11 is a joke at the minute with bus lane usage. One guy yesterday, had used the bus lane from Cabinteely, every light he was on his phone. Make it a requirement of any state sponsored buses to have their cameras to have ANPR, and run it against registry for taxis and buses.
    Danbo! wrote: »
    Yeah you'd think that alright, but I guess they either misinterpret or just dont care.
    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I still cannot understand why this is not done. The N11 is a joke at the minute with bus lane usage.

    Had someone beeping and gesturing at me last week because I wasn't using the rollercoaster part of the N11 cycle lane city-bound by RTE. A certain someone not in a bus or taxi during the restricted hours for bus lane usage :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    jive wrote: »
    Had someone beeping and gesturing at me last week because I wasn't using the rollercoaster part of the N11 cycle lane city-bound by RTE. A certain someone not in a bus or taxi during the restricted hours for bus lane usage :pac:

    I used to take the lane in bus lanes when cars were skipping traffic during restricted hours, until I had to make a very quick trip to our lady's hospital via some bus lanes a while back. Now I always make sure it isn't an emergency, but 99.9999% it's just assholes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,611 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Danbo! wrote: »
    I used to take the lane in bus lanes when cars were skipping traffic during restricted hours, until I had to make a very quick trip to our lady's hospital via some bus lanes a while back. Now I always make sure it isn't an emergency, but 99.9999% it's just assholes.

    How do you do that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    How do you do that?

    Easy...if you hear a siren, move to the left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭Fian


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Easy...if you hear a siren, move to the left.

    Except when I drove in to Holles Street Hospital along the bus lanes while my wife was in labour (years ago) I didn't have a siren to activate.

    For me it is not sensible to try and "police" other vehicles using the cycle lanes any more than it is appropriate for Taxis/Buses to try to "educate" cyclists out of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Fian wrote: »
    Except when I drove in to Holles Street Hospital along the bus lanes while my wife was in labour (years ago) I didn't have a siren to activate.

    For me it is not sensible to try and "police" other vehicles using the cycle lanes any more than it is appropriate for Taxis/Buses to try to "educate" cyclists out of them.

    Since when does having a pregnant woman in you car allow you to use the bus lanes? I understand why you did it, but you are still bound by the ROTR. Next time, contact your local Gardai station and request an escort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Since when does having a pregnant woman in you car allow you to use the bus lanes? I understand why you did it, but you are still bound by the ROTR. Next time, contact your local Gardai station and request an escort.

    That is correct, and I say that as someone who has broken the lights on the way to the rotunda.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,611 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Fian wrote: »
    Except when I drove in to Holles Street Hospital along the bus lanes while my wife was in labour (years ago) I didn't have a siren to activate.

    For me it is not sensible to try and "police" other vehicles using the cycle lanes any more than it is appropriate for Taxis/Buses to try to "educate" cyclists out of them.

    Since when does having a pregnant woman in you car allow you to use the bus lanes? I understand why you did it, but you are still bound by the ROTR. Next time, contact your local Gardai station and request an escort.

    Lots of assumptions there....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Lots of assumptions there....


    where are the assumptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Danbo! wrote: »
    I used to take the lane in bus lanes when cars were skipping traffic during restricted hours, until I had to make a very quick trip to our lady's hospital via some bus lanes a while back. Now I always make sure it isn't an emergency, but 99.9999% it's just assholes.

    This was just some dude in a van (Ford Transit) being an irate bollox, I didn't even take the lane he was just too wide to squeeze by.

    He seemed to be vibrant and full of health


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Ah now, if someone's in labour they get a free pass; when young Roubaix O'Donnell is on his way in, you don't have time to look for an escort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Ah now, if someone's in labour they get a free pass; when young Roubaix O'Donnell is on his way in, you don't have time to look for an escort.

    So Bus lanes can be used by:

    Buses,
    Cyclists,
    Taxis,
    Emergency Services vehicles,
    Gardai,
    Anyone with a medical emergency
    Anyone with a passenger with a medical condition
    Anyone who feels their journey is more urgent than everyone else!

    Did I miss anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,611 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    That there's a local garda station. That its open. That someone answers the phone. That there is a squad car free that might arrive in anything like useful time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Did I miss anything?

    Anyone who needs to park and activates their hazard lights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    That there's a local garda station. That its open. That someone answers the phone. That there is a squad car free that might arrive in anything like useful time.

    Lots of assumptions there...wont know the answer unless the phone call is made. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,161 ✭✭✭buffalo


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    So Bus lanes can be used by:

    Buses,
    Cyclists,
    Taxis,
    Emergency Services vehicles,
    Gardai,
    Anyone with a medical emergency
    Anyone with a passenger with a medical condition
    Anyone who feels their journey is more urgent than everyone else!

    Did I miss anything?

    Mopeds and motorbike users.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,611 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Chuchote wrote: »
    Ah now, if someone's in labour they get a free pass; when young Roubaix O'Donnell is on his way in, you don't have time to look for an escort.

    So Bus lanes can be used by:

    Buses,
    Cyclists,
    Taxis,
    Emergency Services vehicles,
    Gardai,
    Anyone with a medical emergency
    Anyone with a passenger with a medical condition
    Anyone who feels their journey is more urgent than everyone else!

    Did I miss anything?

    You missed any sense of empathy or compassion related to the matter at hand.


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