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Milk Price III

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    I see on the journal there is already talk about opening intervention for smp:eek:. The EU seems to have made things alot worse by its interference in the market. The sooner milk goes near 15c the better for all of us.

    Why do you want to get paid 15c?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Why do you want to get paid 15c?

    Can't speak for Greenfield but personally I have noticed a belief growing among some that a low price would put others out of business and the assumption seems to be that you do better if someone else goes broke. Personally I don't like this way of thinking. But a lot of people seem to think dairying is a competition between us dairy farmers . plays right in to the hands of processors looking for cheap milk IMO. http://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/applied-and-social-sciences-magazines/beggar-thy-neighbor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭castletrader


    As much as I give out about glanbia, the avonmore brand tastes far nicer than any shops own brand Iv tasted.
    Bull****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,627 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Its likely to be exactly the same, just diff wrapping.

    NB, don't eat the wrapping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,621 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    The commission has reduced the tender for sale of Skim powder in stock from twice a month to once a month due to lack of interest from buyers.

    http://m.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/commission-to-reduce-skim-milk-powder-tenders-due-to-limited-interest-35568154.html?utm_content=bufferfa0cf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    Was talking to a guy today on the board of my co-op,and the prospect for the milk price for the 2nd half of 17 is far from certain.more than likely hold till may or hold to get glanbia vote tru,after that....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    Was talking to a guy today on the board of my co-op,and the prospect for the milk price for the 2nd half of 17 is far from certain.more than likely hold till may or hold to get glanbia vote tru,after that....

    Better be a no vote first time so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    Was talking to a guy today on the board of my co-op,and the prospect for the milk price for the 2nd half of 17 is far from certain.more than likely hold till may or hold to get glanbia vote tru,after that....

    that was on the cards from last nov. but it was hoped that price would hold until after peak months, i.e. july onwards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Does anyone know where the coolree creamery is in ireland? Lidl sell their milk..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    M three wrote: »
    Does anyone know where the coolree creamery is in ireland? Lidl sell their milk..

    There's a code on the back of every carton.
    It's usually irl or gb and then the number.
    224 is Strathroy.
    Which it probably is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    There's a code on the back of every carton.
    It's usually irl or gb and then the number.
    224 is Strathroy.
    Which it probably is.

    No code starting with irl or gb, 8 digit code over one of the barcodes starts with 205.

    Bit misleading to brand it coolree creamery if there is no such place.

    The label even states "at coolree creamery we are passionate about......."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,360 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Better be a no vote first time so.

    Any idea what date the vote is on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Any idea what date the vote is on?

    Silage time as usual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    M three wrote: »
    No code starting with irl or gb, 8 digit code over one of the barcodes starts with 205.

    Bit misleading to brand it coolree creamery if there is no such place.

    The label even states "at coolree creamery we are passionate about......."

    There must be a code.
    Here's one to show you from a local farmer producer in wexford as an example.

    Forgive the state of the carton.
    It's being recycled and has another use.

    Edit: on the misleading part.
    Welcome to own brand supermarket goods where the only clue to where it came from is the grower or factory code.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,360 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    Was talking to a guy today on the board of my co-op,and the prospect for the milk price for the 2nd half of 17 is far from certain.more than likely hold till may or hold to get glanbia vote tru,after that....
    Interesting times ahead. They will also have in the back of their minds that people can give their notice of intention to leave from next January. It would be very foolish of them to treat the farmer on the ground like they did in the summer of 2016


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,360 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    M three wrote: »
    Does anyone know where the coolree creamery is in ireland? Lidl sell their milk..

    This is from the aldi clonbawn milk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,360 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Have a coolree one here too. It says ie number see lid ec. I can not see an ie number on the lid. It does have the ndc logo and says farmed in the republic of Ireland. Its a 3litre container


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,329 ✭✭✭alps


    whelan2 wrote: »
    This is from the aldi clonbawn milk

    Aldi milk comes from Clona and Arrabawn....hence the name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Injuryprone



    So 1000 farmers applied and didn't end up reducing, the majority of whom more than likely did so deliberately. Looks like more than 3 million will go unclaimed. No mention on a redistribution of this money as some on here claimed would happen. Maybe their well connected sources are not as dependable as they would've had us believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,329 ✭✭✭alps


    MILK & DAIRY ESTABLISHMENTS 
    APPROVED AND / OR REGISTERED UNDER S.I. NO 432 OF 2009

    Sorry...thought I could paste the full list...didn't work


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Have a coolree one here too. It says ie number see lid ec. I can not see an ie number on the lid. It does have the ndc logo and says farmed in the republic of Ireland. Its a 3litre container

    No offense but why as dairy farmers are you buying milk from a shop? There is a growing school of thought that unpasteurized milk is actually much better for you than that homogenised stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    No offense but why as dairy farmers are you buying milk from a shop? There is a growing school of thought that unpasteurized milk is actually much better for you than that homogenised stuff.

    Im not a farmer so dont have that luxury.
    Started shopping in lidl and wondered where this coolree creamery irish fresh milk was from.
    No such place exists as far as I can see.
    I think at best its odd, at worst its misleading branding. Im aware the suppliers are paid a crap price for milk so im keen to buy milk that actually benefits ROI suppliers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,360 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    No offense but why as dairy farmers are you buying milk from a shop? There is a growing school of thought that unpasteurized milk is actually much better for you than that homogenised stuff.
    We stopped using our own milk years ago when we got locked up with tb. Real milk from the tank is very nice and we do use it sometimes , I use the extra low fat milk which bulk tank milk is not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    No offense but why as dairy farmers are you buying milk from a shop? There is a growing school of thought that unpasteurized milk is actually much better for you than that homogenised stuff.

    We used it here years ago but dad stopped it after cows had a salmonella outbreak. While it may be better there are risks associated particularly with old and young in the house. I know of a few that have bought a pasteuriser for the house alright


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    whelan2 wrote: »
    We stopped using our own milk years ago when we got locked up with tb. Real milk from the tank is very nice and we do use it sometimes , I use the extra low fat milk which bulk tank milk is not

    The low fat diet is also beginning be questioned. Apparently a lot of the research linking fat to health problems was funded by the sugar industry. Also Harvard research has linked low fat milk to children being overweight. It is partly why kerrygold butter has become so popular in the US. So don't feel guilty about going to the bulk tank.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed


    I'm probably hanging around too many hippies. But honestly I think we have all been sold some alternative facts from people who's sole aim is to make money. https://draxe.com/raw-milk-benefits/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Farmer Ed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    When I was milking I stopped using our own Milk years ago. I bring up a jug in the morning and then someone would come along with there cornflakes not stir the milk and take all the cream. You only be left with water after that !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Farmer Ed wrote: »
    I'm probably hanging around too many hippies. But honestly I think we have all been sold some alternative facts from people who's sole aim is to make money. https://draxe.com/raw-milk-benefits/

    I think the statistical bias in that article is pretty bad as well ... it's not surprising that such a tiny proportion of illness comes from raw milk when raw milk is more or less illegal in most Western countries!

    But you are absolutely right - unsurprisingly the people most in favour of compulsory pasteurisation are those who own the biggest pasteurisers, - the milk processing factories. Sadly for dairy farmers they are also the only buyer for milk and they frequently have a monopoly position over any given farm, one which is made stronger if they can make themselves the only legal route to market.

    And pasteurisation itself was a response - in large part - not to the inherent dangers of milk but to the dangers of the early, dirty, factory farms - when city populations exploded during the industrial revolution herds had to get larger and move, more or less, into the cities themselves where they were milked in foul conditions and disease of all sorts was rife.

    There is no question in my mind that pasture raised raw milk from cows you know to be healthy is and always was the best of all milks, and has health benefits which the pasteurised (and certainly the homogenised) product simply does not. It also tastes (as does the cheese, cream and butter) totally different to the industrial equivalent.

    The tiny raw milk industry gets a very hard deal from the regulators (just look at the current battle with Errington cheese in Scotland) while the same regulators encourage large factory operations to regulate themselves and write the rule book everyone must adhere to.

    Raw milk and raw milk products are connected to a tiny pin prick of food poisoning cases compared with the factory processed chicken which moves through our "food system" in various forms every day - but cheap chicken and the grains which make it are a staple of the glorious agrifood industry and makes serious money, whereas raw milk is the domain of happy cows and hippies who should know better than to choose a product just because it tastes much better and is good for them.


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