Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Gamebred · 25-03-2017 07:02PM

Whats up with the new SBG expansion is it another unit they are just adding? probably for public and leave the other for pro's.

wonderfullife · 25-03-2017 07:10PM

Gamebred wrote: »

Whats up with the new SBG expansion is it another unit they are just adding? probably for public and leave the other for pro's.

It looks to me to be the Unit beside it but it was hard to tell from the pic John put up. Looks a big space though. I think there's a bit of jealousy at how amazing the new Mjolnir gym is and maybe they've looked at that and thought right we need something state-of-the-art.

They'd want to be fairly confident that there is actually a next wave of world class pro fighters coming through though. If they're pinning their hopes on the likes of James Gallagher, Dylan Tuke etc that's a big risk on a big investment.

Obviously John still corners Gunni but if my maths are right, Gunni has spent a total of 2 weeks in SBG for his last 2 fight camps and the other 18 weeks in Mjolnir. He's basically not in the team to all intents and purposes.

XsApollo · 25-03-2017 07:12PM

IMO He doesn't have anything to offer if he isn't fighting in the UFC.
The only thing he could possibly do is join the WWE and keep his persona going like that.
If he isn't doing either ,people will get sick of listening to his sh*te , which a lot of people are I think.
Mecregor lingerie lines and lambos , people won't buy that stuff because he is conor mcgregor, but we will all watch him fight.

Subcomandante Marcos · 25-03-2017 07:12PM

They're expanding the gym because they can't fit enough people in the current gym and need more space, it's as simple as that. It's just an issue of supply and demand. Lots of people want to join, there's not enough matt space for everyone, time to expand and there's a unit idle next door. It's a no brainer. New space will allow more room for newer equipment naturally.

wonderfullife · 25-03-2017 07:17PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

They're expanding the gym because they can't fit enough people in the current gym and need more space, it's as simple as that. It's just an issue of supply and demand. Lots of people want to join, there's not enough matt space for everyone, time to expand and there's a unit idle next door. It's a no brainer. New space will allow more room for newer equipment naturally.

I'd be very surprised if they didn't copy some elements of Mjolnir's new place though given how blown away they were by it. I fully expect , like Mjolnir, that there will be a resident Barbers on-site, resident Massage, bigger shop etc.

I'm not convinced the demand will persist beyond Conor's career but almost anyone I've ever talked to has said BJJ is addictive in a positive way so it might, I guess.

zuutroy · 25-03-2017 07:39PM

Honestly find it hard to root for the guy anymore, just a few months after making the trip to Diaz II. The nouveau riche crap is wearing so thin. Unfollowed all the social media accounts now so hopefully won't hear anything about him until fight weeks.

CatFromHue · 25-03-2017 10:47PM

I really hope McGregor hasn't put much money into that car venture as it sounds like a recipe for disaster.

What could be happening though is that he's just going to do some ads, or drive some cars, for the company and they'll get to use his name for advertising.

Mellor · 25-03-2017 11:54PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if they didn't copy some elements of Mjolnir's new place though given how blown away they were by it. I fully expect , like Mjolnir, that there will be a resident Barbers on-site, resident Massage, bigger shop etc.

I'm not convinced the demand will persist beyond Conor's career but almost anyone I've ever talked to has said BJJ is addictive in a positive way so it might, I guess.

They would be leasing the place, they won't own it. It the demand drops in the future they'd simply downsize the area. There really no issue here, that's all completely routine for gyms and such. The Conor element is obviously good for business but at the end of the day, it's the lads turning up day to day that pays the rent.

I think you might be exaggerating the keeping up with the Jones's Mjolnir'a part too. It was an impressive facility, but it's a very different situation over there. Something like that wouldn't work in Dublin (or most cities) for a few reasons.
Things like barbers, massage, physio, etc isn't uncommon in large gyms (I've put them all into gyms I've done). But they would usually be tenancies. Outside businesses sub-letting a space from the gym. It's very easy to build a few areas and invite tenants. Employing those people directly would be silly.

wonderfullife · 26-03-2017 05:10AM

Update on Tom Egan watch - Friends again with Conor. :pac:

Random Stat that came to me: Conor has never lost a fight where he had more than 28 days notice of the fight & opponent.

Diaz - 10 days
Sitenkov - 14 days
Duffy - 27 days

I'm open to correction on the above but the Duffy fight was Nov 27th, 2010 and the fight was booked on October 29th. Sitenkov June 28th, 2008, booked June 14th. RDA pulled out Feb 23rd, 2016 fight March 5th.

Also, the 2 fights he "struggled" through -

Mendes - 15 days
Holloway - 33 days

Were also late enough opponent changes.

Basically, he has never lost a fight he has had a full training camp for where the opponent remains the same. That's a pretty impressive little nugget and also (partially) indicates that Conor & SBG do far more opponent-specific training than they let on.

callaway92 · 26-03-2017 12:17PM

Jaysis

TherapyBoy · 26-03-2017 02:10PM

callaway92 wrote: »

Jaysis

Conor hasn't fought him..yet :pac:

AMC1991 · 26-03-2017 02:43PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

If you think that's a cash grab, you should see the reaction to his latest "venture". Partnering with some London car dealership to, quote, "bring high end luxury motors to Irish shores". It went down like a lead balloon and prompted an article in The Sun slating him. I'm not sure what reaction he was looking for, he knows none of his fans have €300,000 for a new lambo and he should know our roads & weather are not designed for these supercars.

You'd have to question who is advising him. I'm not suggesting he turns into a bleeding heart Mother Theresa type but it wouldn't do him any harm to turn his focus to something his fans could even consider getting on board with. So far it's been dodgy stock trading apps, luxury cars, luxury fitness programs, PPV interviews.....On top of that his fans were priced out of UFC 205 and will be seriously priced out of the Floyd fight where the worst tickets will be over $2,000.

Slippery slope.

His new venture isn't aimed at his fans, it's aimed at wealthy individuals in Ireland. Ireland's super car market, in both sales and rental, is near nonexistent. Conor & his business partner are trying to change that, he should be commended for giving it a go and possibly bringing employment opportunities to Ireland.

As for his advisors, Conor and his advisors have strategically placed McGregor's brand were it needs to be to appeal to the North American market, realistically in terms of PPV buys the only market that counts. Conor's rags to riches story, showcased by his social media postings of his cars, houses and designer goods directly appeals to large amount of Americans, were as the Irish mentality is a more conservative one. So while he might discourage his fans in Ireland by his outlandish postings, he and his advisors really won't care as long as they keep the North American market happy.

Finally, he's not a humanitarian peace worker, who's actions should be held accountable, he a prizefighter and all he's interested in realistically is securing his and his families financial future. If you don't agree or are annoyed with what he's posting on social media, don't follow him on social media.

The Ayatolla · 26-03-2017 04:14PM

What's the story with Egan and McGregor now?

Mellor · 26-03-2017 11:56PM

The Ayatolla wrote: »

What's the story with Egan and McGregor now?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSB--44ArA5/

Edit: Just to add, it was posted over the weekend.
Bit no idea when it was taken. Tom was in Ireland recently by the looks of things though

Bunny Colvin · 27-03-2017 12:43AM

zuutroy wrote: »

Honestly find it hard to root for the guy anymore, just a few months after making the trip to Diaz II. The nouveau riche crap is wearing so thin. Unfollowed all the social media accounts now so hopefully won't hear anything about him until fight weeks.

I'll be rooting for him whenever he fights again but I hear you.

Had 'an evening with McGregor' recorded on my Sky Box and stuck it on yesterday. Very hard to listen to, his opening line was something like 'thank you for coming out, I'm almost humbled'. The interview then was a full on ego trip. I can certainly see why he has detractors, even though he's playing up on his persona a lot of the time.

wonderfullife · 27-03-2017 05:02AM

AMC1991 wrote: »

His new venture isn't aimed at his fans, it's aimed at wealthy individuals in Ireland. Ireland's super car market, in both sales and rental, is near nonexistent. Conor & his business partner are trying to change that, he should be commended for giving it a go and possibly bringing employment opportunities to Ireland.

As for his advisors, Conor and his advisors have strategically placed McGregor's brand were it needs to be to appeal to the North American market, realistically in terms of PPV buys the only market that counts. Conor's rags to riches story, showcased by his social media postings of his cars, houses and designer goods directly appeals to large amount of Americans, were as the Irish mentality is a more conservative one. So while he might discourage his fans in Ireland by his outlandish postings, he and his advisors really won't care as long as they keep the North American market happy.

Finally, he's not a humanitarian peace worker, who's actions should be held accountable, he a prizefighter and all he's interested in realistically is securing his and his families financial future. If you don't agree or are annoyed with what he's posting on social media, don't follow him on social media.

Ok. Wow.

Eh.....there's good reasons Ireland doesn't have a "Super Car" Market. We are a tiny country with terrible roads and crap weather. I'm not sure what sort of employment opportunities you expect will be created by trying to flog or rent drop-top super-cars.

He's already made over $50 million so I don't think you can justify a $5 PPV for an interview or charging 500 quid for dinner and a photo backstage on the grounds of "securing his financial future".

Meh.

The Ayatolla wrote: »

What's the story with Egan and McGregor now?

Tom posted a picture on Instagram and Conor commented on it below saying:

"Fcuking deadly brother I love it. They didn't know what we overcame during that fight camp

".

Mellor · 27-03-2017 06:20AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Ok. Wow.

Eh.....there's good reasons Ireland doesn't have a "Super Car" Market. We are a tiny country with terrible roads and crap weather.

Sure, there is no market here for obvious reasons.

And some London dealer doesn't realise that. Instead he sees Conor driving around in supercars, and thinks he's found market. His mistake.

I'd assume he was given some financial reason to endorse it rather than being the actual financial backer of the venture himself. I'm not saying the latter is impossible, anything is possible. But the former is more obvious imo. Occams razor and all.

Just like his stint on a horse for the Pegasus World Cup. A few quid for a plug, nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't use it to suggest he'll be taking on JP McManus at his own game soon. Although, I'd be surprised if he didn't own a one or two for fun.

Tom posted a picture on Instagram and Conor commented on it below saying:

"Fcuking deadly brother I love it. They didn't know what we overcame during that fight camp ".

Maybe they've sorted their problem.
Maybe there never was one.

EagererBeaver · 27-03-2017 09:36AM

Mellor wrote: »

And some London dealer doesn't realise that. Instead he sees Conor driving around in supercars, and thinks he's found market. His mistake.

I'd assume he was given some financial reason to endorse it rather than being the actual financial backer of the venture himself. I'm not saying the latter is impossible, anything is possible. But the former is more obvious imo. Occams razor and all.

Precisely. People (or at least some people, specifically one or two on here) appear to feel let down as they apparently believed McGregor was some sort of working class hero and find the pedestal they put him on, through their own naivety, being constantly chipped away at.

He's proven himself to be pretty astute to date. I agree what's most likely happened here is that he's either getting k's or cars to stick his name to a vanity project. He's not out trying to convince the local lads in Crumlin they should be re-mortgaging the house so they can lease a Ferrari so I don't really see what the issue is.

Tazzimus · 27-03-2017 10:43AM

He's endorsing a product, same as most other celebs/famous people do when someone offers them some $$ to plug something.

I don't really see the problem here.

hewhoscares · 27-03-2017 12:42PM

Mellor wrote: »

The Ayatolla wrote: »

What's the story with Egan and McGregor now?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSB--44ArA5/

Edit: Just to add, it was posted over the weekend.
Bit no idea when it was taken. Tom was in Ireland recently by the looks of things though

Was that pre-Mendes or Aldo? Trying to work out the timeline from tattoos?

The Rooster · 27-03-2017 01:48PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Precisely. People (or at least some people, specifically one or two on here) appear to feel let down as they apparently believed McGregor was some sort of working class hero and find the pedestal they put him on, through their own naivety, being constantly chipped away at.

He's proven himself to be pretty astute to date. I agree what's most likely happened here is that he's either getting k's or cars to stick his name to a vanity project. He's not out trying to convince the local lads in Crumlin they should be re-mortgaging the house so they can lease a Ferrari so I don't really see what the issue is.

Exactly, some people (well one in particular) seems to think Conor's fans are all poor!

There's definitely a gap in the super car market. Our roads and weather are pretty much on a par with the UK. Bringing in super cars from the UK is almost always cheaper than buying in Ireland, but it can be a painful process.

So having someone take that hassle away and deal with all the red tape, giving consumers the much wider super car choice that you'd find in the UK, and taking in trade-ins from buyers, would be a welcome addition to the Irish car market.

Will never clear big numbers, but my guess would be 50 units in a year could be achieveable, when up and running.

You'd wanna be pretty small minded to be upset about Conor promoting Rolls Royce and the likes of this venutre, just because you can't afford to buy a super car!

xtal191 · 27-03-2017 04:33PM

hewhoscares wrote: »

Was that pre-Mendes or Aldo? Trying to work out the timeline from tattoos?

Mendes

wonderfullife · 27-03-2017 06:10PM

The Rooster wrote: »

You'd wanna be pretty small minded to be upset about Conor promoting Rolls Royce and the likes of this venutre, just because you can't afford to buy a super car!

That's a disingenuous reply. He could put his name to Richard Branson's Moon Tourism if he wants - the fact few of us can afford the millions to take a trip to the moon is besides the point.

Nobody is 'upset' that he wants to flog/lease super-cars or that he wants to flog an expensive training program or stock-trading-options or wants to charge $5 to listen to an interview online. No sleep is being lost anywhere. It's just eroding goodwill. A lot of his fan-base paid thousands to follow him to Letterkenny, Cork, Boston, New York, Vegas.... it's a bit tone-deaf to then charge them 500 quid for a meal and a selfie backstage etc.

Anyway my personal opinion is getting into bed with stock-trading apps and car-dealerships is not a way to build a superstar brand. Whereas stuff like the Marvel Iron Fist advert he did is much more in keeping with his level of fame.

Lukker- · 27-03-2017 06:33PM

I mean he's got his own business managers who are much more adept at marketing than us. I'm sure it's all taken into account when they choose partners and affiliates. Some may find the carry on tacky on instagram, myself included but there is no doubt it pushes his reach. Instagram is all about status and lifestyle anyways, compare his to other boxers like Canelo and there isn't much difference. They carry on like that for a reason.

Floyd is worth 400m but still does nightclub appearances, hosted dinners etc. The grind never stops and for Conor if he's not fighting he's not making money, doing silly dinners and interview PPV's are a way to continue his lifestyle without eating into his future. If he's actually serious about McGregor promotions he's going to need serious bank to push it.

I don't really follow him when he doesn't have a fight coming up and I suggest ye don't either if it bothers you so much!

EagererBeaver · 27-03-2017 07:38PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's just eroding goodwill. A lot of his fan-base paid thousands to follow him to Letterkenny, Cork, Boston, New York, Vegas.... it's a bit tone-deaf to then charge them 500 quid for a meal and a selfie backstage etc.

Is it eroding goodwill? For you maybe. I'd happily wager that his commercial ventures will have precisely zero impact on viewership or buy rate for whatever is next for him.

You're making the mistake of thinking that these events where he turns up, gives the usual "i don't give a ****" spiel and idiots pay through their nose for a meal are some sort of "for the fans" endeavour. They're not at all.

I'm pretty harsh on McGregor compared to most on here but I'll happily admit he's pretty accessible compared to many other superstars. Didn't you meet him mere months ago in SBG?

AMC1991 · 28-03-2017 01:23AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Ok. Wow.

Eh.....there's good reasons Ireland doesn't have a "Super Car" Market. We are a tiny country with terrible roads and crap weather. I'm not sure what sort of employment opportunities you expect will be created by trying to flog or rent drop-top super-cars.

He's already made over $50 million so I don't think you can justify a $5 PPV for an interview or charging 500 quid for dinner and a photo backstage on the grounds of "securing his financial future".

Meh.

I'm sure the car dealership will require a premise, which in turn will require sales staff, possibly additional admin staff, mechanics, and valeters. These are the sort of employment opportunities I would imagine would be created by trying to flog or rent drop-top super-cars. Anyway that's enough of that topic.

As for McGregor's earnings, I would've assume that the only individuals who know what Conor McGregor has truly earned are himself and his accountant. However, you seem to be privy to Conor's financial details, so do tell, is that $50 million gross or net?

I can't understand why anyone would have a problem with any individual monetizing their appeal, the fact that you have looked for justification over the $5 PPV interview and the £500 dinner would lead me to believe that you some how see McGregor for much more then what he is, which is a Mixed Martial Artist.

Subcomandante Marcos · 28-03-2017 01:29AM

He's not opening a dealership in Ireland. It's a UK based dealer using Conor's name to sell cars mostly in the UK but also exporting to Ireland.

Anyone buying in Dublin or Galway or Ballygobackwards will have to pay VRT themselves.

wonderfullife · 28-03-2017 01:34AM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Is it eroding goodwill? For you maybe.

The PPV incident (charging $5), the Mac Life Fast System, the Car-Dealership thing ......... those resulted in literally thousands of abusive and negative messages from his own fans across social media. None of the above bothers me as I don't follow him in person to all these fights around the world or pay for PPV's.

I found Conor to be sound, gracious and inspiring in person. For others, they're finding some of these business ventures to be badly advised mis-steps. The $5 for the PPV interview seemed to bother his fans the most on principle.

TL;DR - I'm officially offering my services as his business adviser :pac:

AMC1991 · 28-03-2017 01:40AM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He's not opening a dealership in Ireland. It's a UK based dealer using Conor's name to sell cars mostly in the UK but also exporting to Ireland.

Anyone buying in Dublin or Galway or Ballygobackwards will have to pay VRT themselves.

My mistake, I read the Instagram post wrong initially.

Upon further inspection, a certain board member of HR Owen also happens to be the owner of SBG Tallaght, so I wouldn't rule out either Conor being more directly involved with the new Irish venture and/or there possibly being a physical HR Owen premise established in Dublin, anyway that's enough of my time spent on this trivial matter.

Depp · 28-03-2017 01:44AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

The PPV incident (charging $5), the Mac Life Fast System, the Car-Dealership thing ......... those resulted in literally thousands of abusive and negative messages from his own fans across social media. None of the above bothers me as I don't follow him in person to all these fights around the world or pay for PPV's.

I found Conor to be sound, gracious and inspiring in person. For others, they're finding some of these business ventures to be badly advised mis-steps. The $5 for the PPV interview seemed to bother his fans the most on principle.

TL;DR - I'm officially offering my services as his business adviser :pac:

tbf at the level conors social media is at if he were to open a childrens hospital in calcutta hed get sh!t for it in the comments section, that and a few thousand chicken comments from random russian accounts that have no posts and only follow him

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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