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Attack outside UK Houses Of Parliament — No speculation — Read 1st post

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  • #992
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Forget about the extremists, would you say the integration of people from terror prone regions in recent years has been successful?

    According to this respected poll, the clear majority of Europeans want to stop Muslim immigration entirely. Right or wrong, according to that poll, that's what people want. What do you think the reasons are for that?

    https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/what-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration

    Another poll, from 2016 surveyed Muslims in the UK and found that over 50% of think homosexuality should be illegal and 25% want Sharia law.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

    The problem isn't immigration, the problem is the people coming from such regions fail to integrate and have vastly different views than civilized society. A society we've worked hard to build.

    integration, by definition, doesn't happen in a few years.

    The Turks that settled in post war Germany seem to have integrated well, playing key roles in successful sporting sides.


  • #993
    Notavirus.exe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Notavirus.exe


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Well exactly!
    Not all Muslims are, some posters here seem to think they are.

    Everyone here who has spoken out against Islam has clearly stated that Islam is the problem, not Muslims. Stop with the strawmans.


  • #994
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Notavirus.exe wrote: »
    "Islam is not a violent religion"

    Explain why the founder Mohammad was a paedophile terrorist then, and explain the 110+ violent Quran verses, explain why women are stoned for being rape victims. Explain why homosexuals are put to death. This is ALL in the Quran, you know, the book of Islam. Islam wouldn't exist without the Quran.

    It says in the bible a woman who is raped (unless the village hear her cries) should be stones to death- exodus


  • #995
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    snowflaker wrote: »
    But you know it so well, so you an quote me the verses.

    I can tell you the anti gay bits in the bible...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam

    again with the christianity strawman, completely Irrellevant to the discussion at hand we do not live in a christian theocracy


  • #996
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    snowflaker wrote: »
    integration, by definition, doesn't happen in a few years.

    The Turks that settled in post war Germany seem to have integrated well, playing key roles in successful sporting sides.

    Why do you think the majority of Europeans don't want Muslim immigration though? Do you think half of Europe is racist?

    What do you think about 25% of Muslims in the UK wanting Sharia law, and half of them wanting Homosexuality to be punishable by law?


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  • #997
    pumpkin4life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    ^ To be fair, in Christian New Testament St Paul and so forth doctrine, homosexuals are seen as bad sinners, but fallen people whom god loves and wants them to repent/fight their urges.

    Islam, well, its feck them lads off a bridge time.


  • #998
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    coco0981 wrote: »
    It doesn't, Islamic fanatics are bad and need to be eradicated somehow. My point is against the people who are basically saying all Muslims are basically Islamic fanatics when in fact they are the largest victims of them

    Well to be quite frank with you, anyone who says all Muslims are bad/killers/evil is an absolute plonker of the highest order. The ignorance of it is astounding but I don't deny that there are probably people who believe it. Fools like that have a preconceived stereotype in their head. They're probably envisioning a Sikh guy to be honest.


  • #999
    Notavirus.exe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Notavirus.exe


    snowflaker wrote: »
    It says in the bible a woman who is raped (unless the village hear her cries) should be stones to death- exodus

    OK, but why hasn't Islam been called out for that?


  • #1000
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Depp wrote: »
    We don't live in a theocracy, Irrelevant.

    And yet people do commit violent acts still in the name of the Bible.

    Relevant.


  • #1001
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Notavirus.exe wrote: »
    Everyone here who has spoken out against Islam has clearly stated that Islam is the problem, not Muslims. Stop with the strawmans.

    so its the religion, not people committing heinous acts in the name of reeling you have the issue with...


    And learn what strawmannirg is.


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  • #1002
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Notavirus.exe wrote: »
    OK, but why hasn't Islam been called out for that?

    You did!


  • #1003
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Well exactly!
    Not all Muslims are, some posters here seem to think they are.

    Not really, more like people like to tell people who criticize islam that they think they are


  • #1004
    gutenberg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭gutenberg


    I work just up from the Palace of Westminster, and it was crazy all afternoon - sirens, helicopters, etc. Though we had no idea anything was happening at first, which probably shows how used we are to such noises from being in the city centre! Got home without any problems, though it is amazing how on edge you feel constantly - I didn't use the tube, but rather walked to my mainline station to catch my train, for instance.


  • #1005
    [Deleted User]
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    It says in the bible a woman who is raped (unless the village hear her cries) should be stones to death- exodus

    Did you know you can be against Islam and not be pro Christianity. Did you know that like? ''But the Bible, but the Bible...''

    Seriously, f*ck both of those fantasy books.


  • #1006
    Ronaldinho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Ronaldinho


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Things like this help explain, though not justify, what happened in London. Easy propaganda for the brainwashers.

    An airstrike by the US-led coalition against Islamic State on a school west of the Syrian city of Raqqa has killed at least 33 people, many of whom had fled nearby fighting, sparking further concerns that new rules of engagements may be causing an increase in civilian casualties.

    The attack follows a separate US strike on a mosque complex in the north-west of the country last Saturday that killed at least 52 people. The incident triggered fears that a White House-ordered review of rules governing the use of drones had already given military planners more flexibility on ordering strikes.


    What changes do you suggest that the West makes to its foreign policy then?


  • #1007
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    snowflaker wrote: »
    If only they were more like Fox! #LastNightinSweden

    Last night in Sweden was horrendous for many young woman and many young girls who will be mentally and physically scarred for life because of last night and tonight and tomorrow Night


  • #1008
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Depp wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam

    again with the christianity strawman, completely Irrellevant to the discussion at hand we do not live in a christian theocracy

    But we live in a country who's constitution was checked over by a bishop!


    Pint on good friday in the local?


  • #1009
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Ronaldinho wrote: »
    What changes do you suggest that the West makes to its foreign policy then?

    Disband the CIA


  • #1010
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Last night in Sweden was horrendous for many young woman and many young girls who will be mentally and physically scarred for life because of last night and tonight.

    Care to elaborate?


  • #1011
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Deleted User wrote: »
    And yet people do commit violent acts still in the name of the Bible.

    Relevant.

    we condemn them with the same fervour that we condomn islamic terrorists...this is the very definition of a strawman never once did I argue ''lets make them be christians instead'':confused::confused::confused:


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  • #1012
    [Deleted User]
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    Notavirus.exe wrote: »
    Everyone here who has spoken out against Islam has clearly stated that Islam is the problem, not Muslims. Stop with the strawmans.

    But if Islam was the problem, then everyone following that religion would be a problem.
    And you have admitted yourself, not all Muslims are terrorists.
    So, obviously the problem isn't Islam, the problem is extremism or fundamentalism, if you like. So not Islam.


  • #1013
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Did you know you can be against Islam and not be pro Christianity. Did you know that like? ''But the Bible, but the Bible...''

    Seriously, f*ck both of those fantasy books.

    People are entitled to practice their religion


  • #1014
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    snowflaker wrote: »
    But we live in a country who's constitution was checked over by a bishop!


    Pint on good friday in the local?

    my bad, Ireland has a catholic past. let the islamic terror continue!


  • #1015
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    snowflaker wrote: »
    It says in the bible a woman who is raped (unless the village hear her cries) should be stones to death- exodus

    You are aware the quoran and Bible(old testament) are pretty much the same. I have read about 15% of both and of what i've read it's the exact same pretty much.


  • #1016
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Disband the CIA

    What about NATO, or the UN?


  • #1017
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    God help the family of keith palmer. A guy who woke up this morning travelled into his job. And is now dead. Because of some complete dillisional evil bastard.


  • #1018
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    You are aware the quoran and Bible(old testament) are pretty much the same. I have read about 15% of both and of what i've read it's the exact same pretty much.

    So the 15% you read of each is pretty much the same.... whats your point???:confused:


  • #1019
    SILVAMAN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭SILVAMAN


    snowflaker wrote: »
    People are entitled to practice their religion

    yes and to keep it to themselves


  • #1020
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,929 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    If all Christians followed the bible to the letter the earth would be a dry barren scorched ball floating in space.


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  • #1021
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    If all Christians followed the bible to the letter the earth would be a dry barren scorched ball floating in space.

    good thing they dont so


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