Logan **Spoilers from post 212**

Wow, didn't believe I would walk out after a screening of Logan and think I've probably seen the best Superhero film made so far, seen it twice and I think it's up there with Batman Begins/Dark Knight, First Avengers film,Captain America Winter Solider, Days of Future Past. Definitely think it's the best X Men related film to date.

But it's so much more then a Superhero film, it really is a Family drama and sort of Western deep down just with added Violence. Hugh Jackman has probably given his best performance to date as Wolverine/Logan, strange to see him so broken down and weak after years of him been kick ass. Career best for Patrick Stewart as Professor X. Boyd Holbrook, Richard E Grant and Stephen Merchant were very good too. Dafine Keen was excellent as Laura, her character will become a fan favourite and I wouldn't be surprised if they make a solo film with her.

It had some shocking moments that I couldn't believe they went with, the murder of the family even the young son was pretty brutal as was the death of Professor X quick and brutal by Clone Logan. It definitely earned it's 16 rating just by the opening scene alone. Plenty of action.

The death scene of Logan was a gut punch but a fitting way for Jackman's Wolverine to go, we all know Fox/Marvel will reboot him sooner then later. But at last Jackman get's the Wolverine solo film he deserves, although I thought The Wolverine (2013) was very good up until it's third act, Logan just is way and above it it's not even funny. 10/10

Is this the best way forward for super-hero movies ?
Rather than trying to have continuity across multiple movies "that can be at the mercy of studios and suspect directors", let them be self contained stories with subtle nods to the overall subject matter ?

Audiences are weary of the big bad who's come to destroy the world/human race etc etc.

I think the success of logan/deadpool is that they are smaller, self contained stories that are more focused on the characters ?

One thing I don't understand: why did Singer end DoFP the way he did, undoing the events of Last Stand, only to go make the next sequel set in the '80s? Was there a plan to bring back the original cast?

helimachoptor wrote: »

Can someone explain to me how Logan gets adamantium after DoFP?

In Apocalypse we see Wolverine escape from the Weapon X program and I believe at that point he has adamantium claws. That is the new timeline that leads into Logan

Just back from Logan and I loved it. I wouldn't so much call it a superhero movie, it was more of an action movie based on a comic book, but it doesn't matter because it was entertainment. I enjoyed the acting in it, loved the story, and I think the ending was perfect.

Riddle101 wrote: »

Just back from Logan and I loved it. I wouldn't so much call it a superhero movie, it was more of an action movie based on a comic book, but it doesn't matter because it was entertainment. I enjoyed the acting in it, loved the story, and I think the ending was perfect.

I really enjoyed it and I'm very picky, the film had a human element to it that a lot of sci-fi and action films lack. I've always liked his surliness and weariness with fighting. Hugh Jackman really pulled out all the stops playing Logan as a broken wreck, but still powerful even in his ill state, the relationship between himself and Xavier though fraught, was still very touching. Especially when he was carrying him to bed and then
Even though his spirit and body are broken he still had that heroic element in him and it brought a smile to my face to see him come to the kids rescue and we got to see one last spectacle of the Wolverine. The girl playing his daughter put on a great performance too.

Deleted User wrote: »

I was really looking forward to this but I found it not only dumb, but deeply unpleasant to sit through.

Unpleasant in what way?

Deleted User wrote: »

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the violence was off-putting.

I get that there was meant to be a theme running through it of Logan's being sickened and affected by the constant violence.

But aside from that, the general incompetence of the chasing posse and the setpiece, chase, pause, setpiece, chase, pause plot did nothing for me.

The Shane theme was forced and clumsy.

The fight scenes were among the worst I've ever seen for big strong fellas standing around waiting to be killed. And no, I'm not referring to the one scene where that literally happens!

Logan was vulnerable half the time but utterly indestructible the other half (not talking about the magic potion here, just from one scene to the next throughout)

The xkids were being killed off in Mexico but couldn't be taken out in a forest at the end of the movie.

Overall, i guess, i didn't feel it earned its attempt at intelligent, grown up movie status because there were such glaring gaps throughout. Once that failed for me, the sweariness and extreme violence just became gimmicks. Fine in a deadpool with a throwaway tone, not in a weighty tragedy.

Performances were excellent throughout and deserved better than the overplotting that we got.

Talk of this being a great movie as if it surpassed its genre is misguided imo. In a few months the ratings and the fervent praise will look a bit silly.

You sound like myself criticising other similar films , I'm not trying to convince you otherwise but I was actually really impressed by the fight scenes for a change. They weren't cut too fast in Jason Bourne style and it conveyed how serious a set of metal claws are when wielded by a beast-man like Logan.

He was dying from metal poisoning so it's plausible that he would have had good days and bad days or peaks and troughs throughout the day, his healing factor and strength while depleted were not completely banjaxed, so he was still a force to be reckoned with. Stewart was brilliant in this movie, he got to show Xavier with a lot more humanity and edge than we've previously seen, I don't normally cry with films but the eyes did water a bit when he died, the dementia theme is close to home too.

I was also really impressed with Jackman's primal performance and the way he can summon up the rage and aggression needed. There's not many actors that have that grit in them. I want to re-watch the scene where we hear him roar in the woods before we see him.

Malari wrote: »

I felt like this too. I go to almost all Marvel movies and if the central character of this movie wasn't Logan I might have skipped it, but very glad I didn't. I'm not usually a fan of such violence but it worked well here. I'm not one to remember details of incongruencies in movie timelines, but I felt that Logan referring to the comics as being 'not what really happened' was a sort of reflection of the CGI-heavy X-Men movies being one interpretation of a story and maybe not 100% accurate. Loved the film.

The lack of cgi was very refreshing, cgi makes me switch off at this stage. It has very little impact as it's usually just too cartoonish to have any significance. It's best used sparingly as a very subtle tool. Give me wire-flying, makeup ,good choreography and good hard graft from the actors any day.