Attack outside UK Houses Of Parliament — No speculation — Read 1st post

ThisRegard · 22-03-2017 09:37PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I had no real issue with them busting barracks or targeting soldiers in Warrenpoint etc., and I have no real issue with Islamic extremists fighting soldiers in the Middle East...well that's war.

Unless they strap innocent civilians into vehicles, have them drive to said barracks and then detonate the bombs in the vehicle.

An Ciarraioch · 22-03-2017 09:39PM

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

We have a real and present danger in Europe with Islam. The first step is admitting it and then we can move on to solving it. Denial will not be an answer to the problem.

Umar al Qadri sets the example that the Muslim communities should follow across Europe - self-monitoring, working with police, shopping radical preachers.

listermint · 22-03-2017 09:39PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

That argument makes no sense, it's idiotic really. It's meaningless because people die in other ways, and therefore isn't a problem? There's one thing in common from the last 3 or 4 major attacks in Europe, see if you can spot it. People justify the attacks because they aren't happening everyday, but what about the foiled attacks we never hear about, or all the people under surveillance with terrorism links. Europe is in a constant state of defense.

13 Nov 2015 France November 2015 Paris attacks 137 killed (inc. 7 perps.), 368 injured[54] Islamic State
22 Mar 2016 Belgium Brussels suicide bombings 35 killed (inc. 3 perps.), 340 injured[55] Islamic State
14 Jul 2016 France Nice truck attack 87 killed (inc. 1 perp.), 434 injured[56] Islamic State
19 Dec 2016 Germany Berlin Christmas market attack 12 killed, 56 injured[57] Islamic State

But you are the one that said Britain should have learned to stop immigrants years ago.

I again ask you about the Indian and Pakistani people that came to live in Britain from the colony's since the 50s and 60s.

I mean where have all the attacks been for the last 70 years since you have such a horn for winding back the clock to stop them coming in

Come back on that one Hank

Notavirus.exe · 22-03-2017 09:41PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

Unless they strap innocent civilians into vehicles, have them drive to said barracks and then detonate the bombs in the vehicle.

Reminds me of the British soldier who attempted to plant a timed bomb in the van of a famous Dublin band at a checkpoint and ended up accidentally detonating the bomb when he shut the van door.

Snake Plisken · 22-03-2017 09:41PM

listermint wrote: »

Ah i see when someone disagrees with you painting 20% of the planet earth with one brush it means they are for open borders.

Got it.

I'm glad you can construct such an intelligent analysis.

Kudos......

You see it's smart arses like yourself that brought Donald Trump to power the intolerant left talking down to ordinary people, you seem to be taking a lot of enjoyment in calling the rest of us idiots and ignorant on a another day where another attack has brought terror and loss of innocent life to the streets of Europe!

22-03-2017 09:44PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

Must be a lot. Thanks for clarifying that we need to be cautious of all Muslims.

And by the way, ISIS refer to the Quran to justify their actions. They don't blame the west for their actions. They want to take over the world.

Psst. Ever since you claimed the IRA weren't terrorists, I've stopped taking you seriously. Just so you're aware.

listermint · 22-03-2017 09:45PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Hold on...explain the religion bit?

Well let me see . Your a criminal you are outcasted no job. Into drugs and alcohol going nowhere . You'd normally be doing some low level crime or maybe assualt or maybe murder. You are just an all round bad dude. And someone gives you some brotherhood jazz and you think this is a good idea but again you are still the same bad criminal edgit.

Whether you act for yourself or your brothers who befriended you it's still down to your personality which came long before this fad religion

If this lad wasnt stabbing a copper in the name of Allah or whatever he'd be stabbing a copper to get away with selling **** on the streets.

People are mixed up lad. That's human nature.

This terror fear crap is spun up creating a stupid society predicated on fear itself.

Lap it up if you like i wont.

Hank Scorpio · 22-03-2017 09:46PM

listermint wrote: »

But you are the one that said Britain should have learned to stop immigrants years ago.

I again ask you about the Indian and Pakistani people that came to live in Britain from the colony's since the 50s and 60s.

I mean where have all the attacks been for the last 70 years since you have such a horn for winding back the clock to stop them coming in

Come back on that one Hank

I said a couple of decades ago, implying the mid and late 90's when terrorism in the West was on the rise like the original WTC bombing and the rise of groups like Al-Qaeda. You are trying to make it sound like I'm implying all immigration is bad, I'm not. These are different times we're living in, and different times call for different measures.

...And Justice · 22-03-2017 09:46PM

humanji wrote: »

But you said they wanted to kill you. If a white Irishman who you've known all your life tells you they want to kill you and you know they're serious, would you say to yourself "Sure it's just a temp contract and he'll be leaving soon anyway"?

What they meant is in their country, I'd be dead. Stop defecting. Are you going to actually going to be a díck about this?

ThisRegard · 22-03-2017 09:47PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

Reminds me of the British soldier who attempted to plant a timed bomb in the van of a famous Dublin band at a checkpoint and ended up accidentally detonating the bomb when he shut the van door.

Yeah, that reminds me of one of the times when the IRA bombed a crowded busy street killing kids.

Notavirus.exe · 22-03-2017 09:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Psst. Ever since you claimed the IRA weren't terrorists, I've stopped taking you seriously. Just so you're aware.

I'm not the twat comparing the IRA, a small vigilante group that wanted to control Ireland that has already declared a ceasefire, to ****ing ISIS, who are actively carrying out attacks across Europe and want Islam to dominate the world.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-03-2017 09:48PM

https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/844639521002176512

She'll be famous before tomorrow. People are idiots.
Hope we hear her voice, to be tarnished like this is unacceptable.

And the comments are pitiful .

22-03-2017 09:48PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

I'm not the twat comparing the IRA, a small vigilante group that wanted to control Ireland that has already declared a ceasefire, to ****ing ISIS, who are actively carrying out attacks across Europe and want Islam to dominate the world.

Ppssst. It's all just noise to me. But keep going.

Beechwoodspark · 22-03-2017 09:48PM

listermint wrote: »

Well let me see . Your a criminal you are outcasted no job. Into drugs and alcohol going nowhere . You'd normally be doing some low level crime or maybe assualt or maybe murder. You are just an all round bad dude. And someone gives you some brotherhood jazz and you think this is a good idea but again you are still the same bad criminal edgit.

Whether you act for yourself or your brothers who befriended you it's still down to your personality which came long before this fad religion

If this lad wasnt stabbing a copper in the name of Allah or whatever he'd be stabbing a copper to get away with selling **** on the streets.

People are mixed up lad. That's human nature.

This terror fear crap is spun up creating a stupid society predicated on fear itself.

Lap it up if you like i wont.

I think for some reason you are minimising the role the teachings of Islam have in this

22-03-2017 09:49PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

I'm not the twat comparing the IRA, a small vigilante group that wanted to control Ireland that has already declared a ceasefire, to ****ing ISIS, who are actively carrying out attacks across Europe and want Islam to dominate the world.

Nor should you, the IRA created far more destruction of lives, property and communities in this part of the world than ISIS.
No comparison at all

...And Justice · 22-03-2017 09:50PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ppssst. It's all just noise to me. But keep going.

What's he actually talking about?

22-03-2017 09:51PM

BBC are saying some people were sent to Kings Cross hospital. I wonder if it'll make it onto 24 Hours in A&E.

listermint · 22-03-2017 09:51PM

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

I'm not the twat comparing the IRA, a small vigilante group that wanted to control Ireland that has already declared a ceasefire, to ****ing ISIS, who are actively carrying out attacks across Europe and want Islam to dominate the world.

Isis are a group of jobless troglodytes who travelled to an open warzone for something to do. The same ****e went on in the southern areas of Africa for decades with again jobless troglodytes grouping into militias to just take rape pillage admin generally do as they please.

They arent some pioneers of Islam these fools take drugs and drink and do all the other crap criminals do in warzones.

The EU should be treating them like the criminals they are.

SnakePlissken · 22-03-2017 09:51PM

listermint wrote: »

ligerdub wrote: »

You're hiding behind semantics.

I'll do you a favour and rephrase. I'll admit I made an error in the choice of words.

You make a post about assumptions and the difference in individuals, then follow it up with a wildly contradicting viewpoint about an entire nation. Brilliant!

Hiding behind semantics you said i was being racist . You lied. I called you out .You should be embarrassed it seems you are now good.
Ok so I'm not racist.

And I'm entitled to hold an opinion when stupid people elect a stupid man on stupid policies and are currently reaping the rewards of stupidness.

Britain to follow suit with brexit.

Stupid.

3 innocent people have been murdered yet you're crying foul because another poster erroneously claimed your post was racist and then, rather admirably, apologised for same. You are not the victim here, your infantile whining is rather pathetic.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-03-2017 09:51PM

''we have her face now, lets track her down and deport her''
'' she's updating ISIS on the amount injured''

Grayson · 22-03-2017 09:52PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

I said a couple of decades ago, implying the mid and late 90's when terrorism in the West was on the rise like the original WTC bombing and the rise of groups like Al-Qaeda. You are trying to make it sound like I'm implying all immigration is bad, I'm not. These are different times we're living in, and different times call for different measures.

His point is that if Muslims are bad, and if as has been implied (and stated by some) their religion tells them to kill all non believers, have there been no terrorist attacks in the UK until recently. There have been generations of Muslims there and nothing.

BTW, the increase in immigration since the 90's has been from the EU.

humanji · 22-03-2017 09:53PM

...And Justice wrote: »

What they meant is in their country, I'd be dead. Stop defecting. Are you going to actually going to be a díck about this?

They still threatened you. How is that not an issue for you, when it's clearly enough of an issue for you to bring up here? Seriously, think about what you said: If you were in their country, they'd kill you. And they were deadly serious. And you didn't mind.

How is my not believing that someone would be okay with a threat from other people, deflecting or being a dick? You story sounds like arse gravy of the lowest order.

wakka12 · 22-03-2017 09:53PM

...And Justice wrote: »

I worked with many Muslims, maybe 100?, in 20 years I've come across 9 or 10 (10%) that wanted to kill western people and were fired for not taking orders from female management

haha apart from the fact that anecdotes are pretty useless in this argument, 10 out of 100 muslims you've met being openly (homicidally?) anti western and mysoginistic is a frighteningly huge amount

listermint · 22-03-2017 09:53PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I think for some reason you are minimising the role the teachings of Islam have in this

I think you are underestimating how these lads would be in a criminal gang if they weren't in a small band of mad unhinged brothers .

Makes no difference .Mixed up people find mixed up people . Humans are a funky race all together.

silverharp · 22-03-2017 09:53PM

seems to being celebrated on social media in certain quarters

Aldo Sterone‏ @AldoSterone111 4h4 hours ago
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I am watching al Jazeera live. You wouldn't believe the number of likes, "well done" and "allah akbar" #terrorism

listermint · 22-03-2017 09:54PM

SnakePlissken wrote: »

3 innocent people have been murdered yet you're crying foul because another poster erroneously claimed your post was racist and then, rather admirably, apologised for same. You are not the victim here, your infantile whining is rather pathetic.

Lol post. Good one.

Grayson · 22-03-2017 09:54PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/844639521002176512

She'll be famous before tomorrow. People are idiots.
Hope we hear her voice, to be tarnished like this is unacceptable.

And the comments are pitiful .

That's just nasty.

Call Me Jimmy · 22-03-2017 09:54PM

listermint wrote: »

Well let me see . Your a criminal you are outcasted no job. Into drugs and alcohol going nowhere . You'd normally be doing some low level crime or maybe assualt or maybe murder. You are just an all round bad dude. And someone gives you some brotherhood jazz and you think this is a good idea but again you are still the same bad criminal edgit.

Whether you act for yourself or your brothers who befriended you it's still down to your personality which came long before this fad religion

If this lad wasnt stabbing a copper in the name of Allah or whatever he'd be stabbing a copper to get away with selling **** on the streets.

People are mixed up lad. That's human nature.

This terror fear crap is spun up creating a stupid society predicated on fear itself.

Lap it up if you like i wont.

So the ideology of right wing extremists is not to be opposed?

Jayop · 22-03-2017 09:55PM

RIP to the poor people killed and hopefully those injured recover.

Also hope that innocent people don't get attacked in retribution.

Professor Moriarty · 22-03-2017 09:56PM

Grayson wrote: »

That's just nasty.

I wonder if it's photoshopped.

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