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Attack outside UK Houses Of Parliament — No speculation — Read 1st post

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭conorhal


    snowflaker wrote: »
    Yes. I was drawn back in by sheer stupidity in posts that needed to be exposed

    LOL

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Your inability to contemplate or even entertain opposing views makes you viewpoints come across as extremely ignorant.

    What is your stated opinion on liberalism again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    You were never going anywhere. It was just drama...

    Isn't the whole thread drama.

    One mad man kills some people therefore we should all go into a mad spiral of blaming others for his actions.

    Woot woot the drama train all aboard woot woot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    listermint wrote: »
    Nah i think I'm happy with the terms , it's an opinion board i can have my opinion on the intelligence of individuals when they let feelings and groundless facts dictate their political decision making . It demonstrates an inability for critical thinking.

    So I'm good thanks.

    Those are just baseless assumptions you're making. That in itself does not reflect well on critical thinking on your part.

    I have no interest in taking this further as it's just a waste of time.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    OK, next time foreigners invade Ireland, introduce internment for Irish people and murder 14 innocent boys and men when they dare protest against the inhumanity of internment, the Irish people who use violence to free Ireland are the terrorists. Gotcha.
    Oh dear lord, please tell me you understand the irony of what you just typed?!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    listermint wrote: »

    Until the new concept of spreading fear and division showed up and tools are lapping it up like it's milk....

    It's not irrational fear, hundreds of people have been killed in Europe since the end of 2015 alone, and many more injured due to terrorism. That's before going into integration, crime and societal problems due to increased immigration from terror prone regions. You talk about division implying it's due to the people already here, but I don't think that's the case at all. Merkel has even said multiculturalism has failed in Germany. There is a problem, it needs to be recognized.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 28 AreWeAlone


    Western atheists cause a helluva lot more carnage than religious types, but they do a better job of covering it up by calling themselves 'soldiers', 'servicemen' and other bollóxology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Ah I see TheJournal.ie king Muslim Troll aka Open Borders has an account on boards!

    Ah i see when someone disagrees with you painting 20% of the planet earth with one brush it means they are for open borders.

    Got it.

    I'm glad you can construct such an intelligent analysis.

    Kudos......


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OK, next time foreigners invade Ireland, introduce internment for Irish people and murder 14 innocent boys and men when they dare protest against the inhumanity of internment, the Irish people who use violence to free Ireland are the terrorists. Gotcha.

    How many Muslims joined the likes of ISIS after foreign countries dropped bombs on their homes killing 100's of innocents, including 100's of innocent children?

    Gotcha.

    Edit:

    Oh oh oh by your logic, members of ISIS aren't terrorists either.

    Is this how it works?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Where is this all going people? We ok with this kind of attack happening every few months?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    It's not irrational fear, hundreds of people have been killed in Europe since the end of 2015 alone, and many more injured due to terrorism. That's before going into integration, crime and societal problems due to increased immigration from terror prone regions. You talk about division implying it's due to the people already here, but I don't think that's the case at all. Merkel has even said multiculturalism has failed in Germany. There is a problem, it needs to be recognized.

    Hundreds of thousands of people died since 2015 on the roads ban cars and blame the cars.

    Or blame individuals...

    I just don't know who to blame let's get this train started again. Woooot wooot


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    AreWeAlone wrote: »
    Western atheists cause a helluva lot more carnage than religious types, but they do a better job of covering it up by calling themselves 'soldiers', 'servicemen' and other bollóxology.

    Ive yet to hear of an atheist who screamed "in the name of absolutely no god before attacking someone.

    boll0xology indeed


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Secondly, to claim the IRA are terrorists is to claim that the British army were the victims. Get the **** out with that ****.

    Considering the fact that the RUC and British soldiers murdered innocent people and abused Catholics, I think it's ridiculous that anyone can claim the IRA were terrorists for using violence against those genocidal bastards.

    For me it was when they vaporised civilians in pubs in Birmingham, burned them in restaurants like La Mon, and lined them up and mowed them down beside a bus in Kingsmill, that's what marked them out as terrorists. I had no real issue with them busting barracks or targeting soldiers in Warrenpoint etc., and I have no real issue with Islamic extremists fighting soldiers in the Middle East...well that's war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    listermint wrote: »
    Hundreds of thousands of people died since 2015 on the roads ban cars and blame the cars.

    Or blame individuals...

    I just don't know who to blame let's get this train started again. Woooot wooot

    Well that's just a really dumb comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Where is this all going people? We ok with this kind of attack happening every few months?

    Are we ok with suicide?

    Are we okay with gun crime ?

    Are we ok with rape?

    Are we ok with murder ?


    Individuals can be unhinged. The human mind is a crazy thing given any circumstance.

    This isn't new it's just a new thing to hang a hook on . Islam. Another 2 decades we will find the next big thing to blame the unhinged individual on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Well that's just a really dumb comparison.

    An idiotic comparison, really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    listermint wrote: »
    Hundreds of thousands of people died since 2015 on the roads ban cars and blame the cars.

    Or blame individuals...

    I just don't know who to blame let's get this train started again. Woooot wooot

    Intent.

    Do hundreds of thousands of people set with the intent to kill people on the roads? No.

    Have hundreds of people been killed because individuals intentionally set out to do so? Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Where is this all going people? We ok with this kind of attack happening every few months?

    Assuming police and security are monitoring people on watchlists, little that everyone else can do, except go about their everyday lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,872 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Well you only have to look at what it is in Muslim countries to know. Beheadings, stoning, cutting off limbs etc......you??

    Ever been to Morocco? 98% Muslim country, They have Sharia law there, none of the things you mentioned above.

    Maybe educate yourself a little before spouting the usual rhetoric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    listermint wrote: »
    Are we ok with suicide?

    Are we okay with gun crime ?

    Are we ok with rape?

    Are we ok with murder ?


    Individuals can be unhinged. The human mind is a crazy thing given any circumstance.

    This isn't new it's just a new thing to hang a hook on . Islam. Another 2 decades we will find the next big thing to blame the unhinged individual on.

    So you think this is simply a mental illness issue?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Well that's just a really dumb comparison.

    Why?

    Cars kill people ergo cars bad.

    Isn't that the same level of thought ye folks are putting into Islam as a thing ....

    Let's play this game see how far you can take it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    listermint wrote: »
    Hundreds of thousands of people died since 2015 on the roads ban cars and blame the cars.

    Or blame individuals...

    I just don't know who to blame let's get this train started again. Woooot wooot

    That argument makes no sense, it's idiotic really. It's meaningless because people die in other ways, and therefore isn't a problem? There's one thing in common from the last 3 or 4 major attacks in Europe, see if you can spot it. People justify the attacks because they aren't happening everyday, but what about the foiled attacks we never hear about, or all the people under surveillance with terrorism links. Europe is in a constant state of defense.

    13 Nov 2015 France November 2015 Paris attacks 137 killed (inc. 7 perps.), 368 injured[54] Islamic State
    22 Mar 2016 Belgium Brussels suicide bombings 35 killed (inc. 3 perps.), 340 injured[55] Islamic State
    14 Jul 2016 France Nice truck attack 87 killed (inc. 1 perp.), 434 injured[56] Islamic State
    19 Dec 2016 Germany Berlin Christmas market attack 12 killed, 56 injured[57] Islamic State


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    listermint wrote: »
    Why?

    Cars kill people ergo cars bad.

    Isn't that the same level of thought ye folks are putting into Islam as a thing ....

    Let's play this game see how far you can take it

    Completely naive on your part


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,872 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    It means you can be accused and killed if a man says so.

    In EVERY Muslim country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    So you think this is simply a mental illness issue?

    Sure , i think that is 100 percent part of the problem.

    People that are outcasts people that may be feel they are not mainstream. They always managed to find something to get into whether its crime or something else .

    The fact it's currently a form of a religion is just a current manifestation of it.

    But sure let's all go on a mad one and pretend this is new.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    listermint wrote: »
    Why?

    Cars kill people ergo cars bad.

    Isn't that the same level of thought ye folks are putting into Islam as a thing ....

    Let's play this game see how far you can take it

    Do cars purposely kill people? Surely you can see how dumb that was?

    Also, who are these "ye folks" you are assuming I'm involved with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    listermint wrote: »
    Sure , i think that is 100 percent part of the problem.

    People that are outcasts people that may be feel they are not mainstream. They always managed to find something to get into whether its crime or something else .

    The fact it's currently a form of a religion is just a current manifestation of it.


    But sure let's all go on a mad one and pretend this is new.

    Hold on...explain the religion bit?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 263 ✭✭CoolHandBandit


    We have a real and present danger in Europe with Islam. The first step is admitting it and then we can move on to solving it. Denial will not be an answer to the problem.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Notavirus.exe


    How many Muslims joined the likes of ISIS after foreign countries dropped bombs on their homes killing 100's of innocents, including 100's of innocent children?

    Gotcha.

    Must be a lot. Thanks for clarifying that we need to be cautious of all Muslims.

    And by the way, ISIS refer to the Quran to justify their actions. They don't blame the west for their actions. They want to take over the world.


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