Milk Price III

Farmer Ed · 16-03-2017 05:42PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

They were telling the truth just not the whole truth. PLCs are almost obligated to purchase at least cost. And the benefit from the value added goes to the PLC and is distributed by dividend and not by milk price.

Get used to being paid just enough to keep your nose above water level would be my view on it.

Would agree regarding the PLCs but in the case of some the Co Ops at least. A lot of fanciful stuff was being spoken about that was far from the reality of the situation.

mahoney_j · 20-03-2017 01:58PM

41.93 cent per litre for February milk @ 5.07 fat and 3.74 protein scc 63

blackdog1 · 20-03-2017 02:09PM

mahoney_j wrote:

41.93 cent per litre for February milk @ 5.07 fat and 3.74 protein scc 63

Nice way to start the year

orm0nd · 20-03-2017 03:28PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

41.93 cent per litre for February milk @ 5.07 fat and 3.74 protein scc 63

serious solids for your yields MJ

mahoney_j · 20-03-2017 04:00PM

orm0nd wrote: »

serious solids for your yields MJ

Arse wasn't long falling out of them 31.34 Ltrs 4.28 3.37!last collection .2.46 kg milk solids still respectable for an auld herd of hols ,more in them once weather settles and I can go 24/36 hour breaks

boggerman1 · 21-03-2017 03:06PM

Gdt back up 1.7% today.amount on offer approx 23000 tons.wmp back up a bit after falling in last couple of goes

Keepgrowing · 22-03-2017 07:08AM

mahoney_j wrote: »

41.93 cent per litre for February milk @ 5.07 fat and 3.74 protein scc 63

Got 44.84 at 5.01 and 4.31

&

Got 45.51 at 5.31 and 4.31

Glanbia are real bastards

Farmer Ed · 22-03-2017 11:50AM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Got 44.84 at 5.01 and 4.31

&

Got 45.51 at 5.31 and 4.31

Glanbia are real bastards

Actually compared to the price Mahony got for his milk with lower solids form Arrabawn. You may have a point. However you would need to bear in mind that results such as that so early in the year could indicate a certain level of colostrum in the milk also. Not necessarily of course, but it wouldn't be unheard of.

Keepgrowing · 22-03-2017 01:27PM

Farmer Ed wrote: »

Actually compared to the price Mahony got for his milk with lower solids form Arrabawn. You may have a point. However you would need to bear in mind that results such as that so early in the year could indicate a certain level of colostrum in the milk also. Not necessarily of course, but it wouldn't be unheard of.

What did you get from Arrranawn, Ed?

jaymla627 · 22-03-2017 03:02PM

Farmer Ed wrote: »

Actually compared to the price Mahony got for his milk with lower solids form Arrabawn. You may have a point. However you would need to bear in mind that results such as that so early in the year could indicate a certain level of colostrum in the milk also. Not necessarily of course, but it wouldn't be unheard of.

Mute point with Glanbia as of yet as they aren't fining suppliers for colostrum milk it is best practice though apparently, heifers go into tank here on second milking and cows on third/fourth as using 24hr withdrawal dc tubes, absolute gift to be able to let in cows so early plus no waste milk to be dealing with

Farmer Ed · 22-03-2017 03:06PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

What did you get from Arrranawn, Ed?

4.26 F 3.28 P 34.222 cent. Cows were still on silage and no beastings allowed in the tank. Not saying that people might do that intentionally . But realistically if a farmer has 75% of a herd calving in three weeks, it is possible that the first couple of collections in the year may be a bit higher than normal. If you read Mahonys post, while his solids are still very good. His experience would suggest that they have fallen since february. Of course there are many variables such as diet and genetics ect, but generally there should be no reason to expect march solids to be lower than february.

Farmer Ed · 22-03-2017 03:22PM

Actually by my estimation based on the top 10% price received by Arrabawn suppliers at 5.01F and 3.74 P of 44.321 cent. It would appear that Mahony lost out 2.5 cent in february by having some of his milk fixed. That's more money to share with the rest of us I suppose. But possibly when milk price falls again we will have to pay him back.

mahoney_j · 22-03-2017 03:25PM

Farmer Ed wrote: »

4.26 F 3.28 P 34.222 cent. Cows were still on silage and no beastings allowed in the tank. Not saying that people might do that intentionally . But realistically if a farmer has 75% of a herd calving in three weeks, it is possible that the first couple of collections in the year may be a bit higher than normal. If you read Mahonys post, while his solids are still very good. His experience would suggest that they have fallen since february. Of course there are many variables such as diet and genetics ect, but generally there should be no reason to expect march solids to be lower than february.

Ahem they've fallen because I've a lot of cows 4/6 weeks calved ,at high yields ,for last week not as much grass in diet as I'd like .i don't send beastings milk like ur suggesting ,all withdrawals fully adhered to as well thank u very much

mahoney_j · 22-03-2017 03:27PM

Farmer Ed wrote: »

Actually by my estimation based on the top 10% price received by Arrabawn suppliers at 5.01F and 3.74 P of 44.321 cent. It would appear that Mahony lost out 2.5 cent in february by having some of his milk fixed. That's more money to share with the rest of us I suppose. But possibly when milk price falls again we will have to pay him back.

Educate yourself ed ,fixed scheme not starting till 01/03 and I hope I'll get the 20% I've applied for .even currently with markets the way they are fixing is looking an excellent move

orm0nd · 22-03-2017 03:28PM

Farmer Ed wrote: »

Actually by my estimation based on the top 10% price received by Arrabawn suppliers at 5.01F and 3.74 P of 44.321 cent. It would appear that Mahony lost out 2.5 cent in february by having some of his milk fixed. That's more money to share with the rest of us I suppose. But possibly when milk price falls again we will have to pay him back.

no fps for feb milk

mf240 · 22-03-2017 03:29PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Got 44.84 at 5.01 and 4.31

&

Got 45.51 at 5.31 and 4.31

Glanbia are real bastards

Well done fair play.

Farmer Ed · 22-03-2017 03:43PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Educate yourself ed ,fixed scheme not starting till 01/03 and I hope I'll get the 20% I've applied for .even currently with markets the way they are fixing is looking an excellent move

Then you need to contact the Co Op as you were underpaid. 5.01f and 3.74p made 44.321. Your fat was higher so you should have been paid more.

I never accused you of sending beastings, but as you said yourself. Cows calved five or six weeks are not having the same % solids as when they were freshly calved. So realistically you could draw the conclusion that the first few tests could be a bit deceptive. Your solids are good fair play even after the drop.

You could be right, fixing could be an excellent move for you. But as we have agreed to disagree about. If you get paid more everyone else gets paid less and vice versa. That is simply how the thing works.

mahoney_j · 22-03-2017 03:56PM

Farmer Ed wrote: »

Then you need to contact the Co Op as you were underpaid. 5.01f and 3.74p made 44.321. Your fat was higher so you should have been paid more.

I never accused you of sending beastings, but as you said yourself. Cows calved five or six weeks are not having the same % solids as when they were freshly calved. So realistically you could draw the conclusion that the first few tests could be a bit deceptive. Your solids are good fair play even after the drop.

You could be right, fixing could be an excellent move for you. But as we have agreed to disagree about. If you get paid more everyone else gets paid less and vice versa. That is simply how the thing works.

Why worry about everyone else ??,that price of mine is what is on statement inclusive of 0.2 scc top up and 2 cent winter bonus ,top 10% includes liquid suppliers and that bonus

Farmer Ed · 22-03-2017 05:00PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Why worry about everyone else ??,that price of mine is what is on statement inclusive of 0.2 scc top up and 2 cent winter bonus ,top 10% includes liquid suppliers and that bonus

If the top 10% includes liquid suppliers, then it just goes to prove how difficult it is to compare like with like. To more and diverse ways a milk purchaser has of paying for milk, the more difficult it becomes for farmers to compare price.

I wouldn't have thought your average liquid supplier would typically not be in to high solids also. Would have expected to find the high EBI spring calving and jex herds in the top 10%?

mahoney_j · 22-03-2017 05:09PM

Farmer Ed wrote: »

If the top 10% includes liquid suppliers, then it just goes to prove how difficult it is to compare like with like. To more and diverse ways a milk purchaser has of paying for milk, the more difficult it becomes for farmers to compare price.

I wouldn't have thought your average liquid supplier would typically not be in to high solids also. Would have expected to find the high EBI spring calving and jex herds in the top 10%?

To give a straight answer I couldn't care less ,I'm concerned about inside my gate and how I can maximise my solids ,milk production ,grass production etc etc

Farmer Ed · 22-03-2017 06:36PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

To give a straight answer I couldn't care less ,I'm concerned about inside my gate and how I can maximise my solids ,milk production ,grass production etc etc

Ah yes. The farmer needs to keep the head down and not ask questions . forgot that sorry.

degetme · 22-03-2017 08:01PM

first milk cheque since December
prot 3.57
fat4.48
scc 154
36.257cl no fixed this month
The Maximum Attainable Price at 3.30% Protein and 3.60% Butterfat is 31.376 CPL (VAT Inc.)
Kerry supiller

kevthegaff · 22-03-2017 09:31PM

39 l,7.2 fat 5.67 pr scc 0.11 price 65 cent/litre fixed with glanbia:-)

mf240 · 22-03-2017 10:09PM

3.1 prot 3.2 fat 99 cent a litre in aldi .

visatorro · 22-03-2017 10:21PM

mf240 wrote: »

3.1 prot 3.2 fat 99 cent a litre in aldi .

As much as I give out about glanbia, the avonmore brand tastes far nicer than any shops own brand Iv tasted.
Was trying to explain this to a townie friend, he wasn't really grasping the situation!

I'm too embarrassed to post my own price BTW!

Farmer Ed · 23-03-2017 06:53AM

kevthegaff wrote: »

39 l,7.2 fat 5.67 pr scc 0.11 price 65 cent/litre fixed with glanbia:-)

Fair play . This is beginning to remind me of Brendan Graces story about the Kerry jarvey and the American. Lol.

Farmer Ed · 23-03-2017 07:00AM

visatorro wrote: »

As much as I give out about glanbia, the avonmore brand tastes far nicer than any shops own brand Iv tasted.
Was trying to explain this to a townie friend, he wasn't really grasping the situation!

I'm too embarrassed to post my own price BTW!

Your just being modest I'm sure. Everyone knows you got 75 cent . Don't worry we won't tell the tax man.

Mooooo · 23-03-2017 07:12AM

3.47p 4.32bf received about 34.88 from dairygold.winter bonus comes in this month, for the four months, as well spread over Feb litres so I can say I got 65.9 c/l one month anyway lol

greenfield21 · 23-03-2017 08:55AM

I see on the journal there is already talk about opening intervention for smp:eek:. The EU seems to have made things alot worse by its interference in the market. The sooner milk goes near 15c the better for all of us.

orm0nd · 23-03-2017 11:24AM

greenfield21 wrote: »

I see on the journal there is already talk about opening intervention for smp:eek:. The EU seems to have made things alot worse by its interference in the market. The sooner milk goes near 15c the better for all of us.

flog it off on the open market , first loss is often the best loss,

no use talking about premium product prices
at the end of the day it's smp & the likes that jack up the returns,

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