G650GS vs V Strom 650 vs Transalp 650?

MSVforever · 19-03-2017 05:50PM #1

Hi Guys,

I have finally decided on the type of bike I want to replace my bandit 600 with.

Overall the V-Strom seems to be the best but most expensive package. However I have just tried out the BMW G650GS (2012 modell) and was surprised by how much fun this single cylinder with only 48 hp is (punchy enough up to 100 kph and extremly smooth).
The only downside is the low seat which can be replaced with an aftermarket one for around €200.
Are there any reliability issues with this particular modell which I believe was derived from the F650GS single?

Another contender would be the Transalp 650 which seems to be more similar to the V Strom but a bit cheaper. Are they as reliable as the legendary 600?

Cheers for any input.

serious3 · 19-03-2017 05:58PM

One of the above? As it happens I've mates with one of each.... 650 single eats tyres and chains, 650 v-strom is a lovely piece of kit, transalp is old technology, out of the three I'd pic v-strom

arybvtcw0eolkf · 19-03-2017 06:04PM

What years, are you tall or short and are you going to do much motorway riding (because the Transalp although a fantastic bike has only five gears).

I've never owned the BMW, but anyone I know who has owned one say they were a good bike. They're also better suited to someone with shorter legs so far as I can remember.

I've the Vstrom now, I have it one year and honestly its been a dream in that time. Exceptionally cheap to run. If you're a big lad they're a physically big bike. I've been all over the country on it and its great for an entire day in the saddle.

MSVforever · 19-03-2017 06:17PM

Thanks guys.
Im quite tall 6.4 and a bit on the heavy side 115kg.
It will be mostly used for town commuting, a few sunday spins and a handfull cross country trips.

MSVforever · 19-03-2017 06:39PM

The V Strom is from 2007 (€4250), Transalp from 2006 (€3200) and the G650GS from 2012 (€4250):

https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/honda-dl-650-v-strom/14736686

https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/honda-xl-transalp-650/14966927

https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/bmw-gs-650/14208977

Thanks.

listermint · 19-03-2017 08:30PM

What i would do in your position is for what i did.

Join vstrom .Co.uk forum and but a members bike. Have it delivered over by the bike guy from Kilkenny and have a newer bike than what you've posted there for better money.

serious3 · 19-03-2017 10:30PM

What he said^^

arybvtcw0eolkf · 20-03-2017 12:02AM

Ok at your size and weight the only choice is the Vstrom. If you want to sit on one and try it for size PM me your number and we'll hook up.

At your size and weight the Vstrom is going to be like an armchair to you after the Bandit 600.

MSVforever · 20-03-2017 09:00AM

listermint wrote: »

What i would do in your position is for what i did.

Join vstrom .Co.uk forum and but a members bike. Have it delivered over by the bike guy from Kilkenny and have a newer bike than what you've posted there for better money.

Thanks listermint.
Looks like a great source for information.

Btw who is the guy in Kilkenny?

Cheers.

MSVforever · 20-03-2017 09:07AM

Alayah Bitter Baker wrote: »

Ok at your size and weight the only choice is the Vstrom. If you want to sit on one and try it for size PM me your number and we'll hook up.

At your size and weight the Vstrom is going to be like an armchair to you after the Bandit 600.

Thanks for the offer Mak! Much appreciated.
Had recently a quick spin on one and they are certainly much more comfy than the bandit.
Liked the G650GS as well but it wouldn't be too great for longer journeys (especially on the motorway).

Now I just have to get rid off the bandit or trade it in.
I d prefer the dealer route as it's less hassle and there is some kind of come back. However there would be better value in selling/buying privately I guess.

Did you buy from a dealer or privately?

Cheers.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 20-03-2017 11:22AM

MSVforever wrote: »

Did you buy from a dealer or privately?

Cheers.

Like that I prefer the dealer route too. You lose money on the dealer but at least you don't have to deal with pricks coming out to view your beloved bike, trying to knock money off it by insulting the bike and your intelligence, I just can't be arsed.

One thing I might point out to you about the Vstrom.

I read a lot about riders experiencing buffeting from the fairing and needed to add an extension to the windshield.. Well there is a bit of buffeting, I won't lie.

But the windshield on them is adjustable. If I'm going on a long motorway journey, ie anything over 100km I'd recommend adjusting it to its highest setting, however for me its at its lowest setting 95% of the time and there's really not bother with it.

Richard tea · 20-03-2017 12:13PM

Alayah Bitter Baker wrote: »

Like that I prefer the dealer route too. You lose money on the dealer but at least you don't have to deal with pricks coming out to view your beloved bike, trying to knock money off it by insulting the bike and your intelligence, I just can't be arsed.

One thing I might point out to you about the Vstrom.

I read a lot about riders experiencing buffeting from the fairing and needed to add an extension to the windshield.. Well there is a bit of buffeting, I won't lie.

But the windshield on them is adjustable. If I'm going on a long motorway journey, ie anything over 100km I'd recommend adjusting it to its highest setting, however for me its at its lowest setting 95% of the time and there's really not bother with it.

I'm nearly sure the buffeting was down to a hand guard issue?

MSVforever · 21-03-2017 10:43AM

Alayah Bitter Baker wrote: »

Like that I prefer the dealer route too. You lose money on the dealer but at least you don't have to deal with pricks coming out to view your beloved bike, trying to knock money off it by insulting the bike and your intelligence, I just can't be arsed.

One thing I might point out to you about the Vstrom.

I read a lot about riders experiencing buffeting from the fairing and needed to add an extension to the windshield.. Well there is a bit of buffeting, I won't lie.

But the windshield on them is adjustable. If I'm going on a long motorway journey, ie anything over 100km I'd recommend adjusting it to its highest setting, however for me its at its lowest setting 95% of the time and there's really not bother with it.

Thanks Mak.

In the past I ve only sold a bicycle on donedeal and adverts. This experience has put me off for life.... The amount of timewasters, swappers who want to get rid off their trash.....unreal...

Its great that the windshield is adjustable. The mini shield on the bandit is next to useless for me.

What year is your bike and has it ABS?
Would you recommend forking out €1000 more for an ABS version?

Cheers!

goodlad · 21-03-2017 02:51PM

The vstrom buffeting issue for most riders is down to the screen and mirrors but from my experience its mostly due to the mirrors. The day i changed my vstrom mirrors 90% of the buffeting vanished. Tuono mirrors are the most common swap and cheap too

defike · 21-03-2017 03:02PM

Did you look atall at the kawasaki versys 650.It looks good and is cheap.

listermint · 21-03-2017 04:55PM

MSVforever wrote: »

Thanks listermint.
Looks like a great source for information.

Btw who is the guy in Kilkenny?

Cheers.

https://www.facebook.com/TedsTransportRemovalsStorageIreland/

sound lads, picked it up from the seller in wales and dropped it to my door. The bike was in near as new nick. Super happy with it (ive had it over 3 years)

I would always look to good members clubs and tbh the Vstrom one in the UK is exemplary.

MSVforever · 22-03-2017 12:43AM

defike wrote: »

Did you look atall at the kawasaki versys 650.It looks good and is cheap.

I did. I also had a spin on the versys but I prefer the V-Strom.

MSVforever · 22-03-2017 12:47AM

listermint wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/TedsTransportRemovalsStorageIreland/

sound lads, picked it up from the seller in wales and dropped it to my door. The bike was in near as new nick. Super happy with it (ive had it over 3 years)

I would always look to good members clubs and tbh the Vstrom one in the UK is exemplary.

Cheers listermint.Did they check the bike for you? How does it work with the documents and paying the seller? How much did you pay for the service?

Thanks.

galwaytt · 22-03-2017 01:36PM

Another +++ for Teds Trucking. The Fecker

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Arrived shiney & spotless, collected the paperwork, keys and lock etc for me.

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listermint · 22-03-2017 11:06PM

MSVforever wrote: »

Cheers listermint.Did they check the bike for you? How does it work with the documents and paying the seller? How much did you pay for the service?

Thanks.

He had a gander at it but i didn't specifically specify it. I went on the seller having spoken to them on the phone and the conditions of all photos.

Bought it from an elderly guy who had upgraded to the newer vstrom.

Buy sensible buy once

EIRE forever · 24-03-2017 11:50PM

well with being an owner of a DL650 I would advise you to go with the v strom over the others, the DL650's are VERY comfortable an you'd ride for hours. plus looks sexy as f*ck

an if you stick a nice deep loud pipe on it like I have its even better

I'm not into the other two you mentioned.

MSVforever wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I have finally decided on the type of bike I want to replace my bandit 600 with.

Overall the V-Strom seems to be the best but most expensive package. However I have just tried out the BMW G650GS (2012 modell) and was surprised by how much fun this single cylinder with only 48 hp is (punchy enough up to 100 kph and extremly smooth).
The only downside is the low seat which can be replaced with an aftermarket one for around €200.
Are there any reliability issues with this particular modell which I believe was derived from the F650GS single?

Another contender would be the Transalp 650 which seems to be more similar to the V Strom but a bit cheaper. Are they as reliable as the legendary 600?

Cheers for any input.

MSVforever · 26-03-2017 11:56AM

Thanks guys!
I put down a deposit for a 2007 v strom 650 at a dealer yesterday. Its in very good condition and comes with full luagge. I cant wait to pick it up next week.
There is only one gripe I have with it.
Its the seat. I have a flat seat on the bandit. The seat on the v strom is curved and the hump for the pillion seat I keep sliding on is uncomfortable.
Do you get used to this? If not then I will ve to get the seat modified so driver and pillion part are flush i.e. the same height.

Cheers.

MSVforever · 26-03-2017 12:00PM

Something like this for example:
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq320/howellbn/DSC_1962_zps3e572a76.jpg

EIRE forever · 26-03-2017 06:57PM

MSVforever wrote: »

Thanks guys!
I put down a deposit for a 2007 v strom 650 at a dealer yesterday. Its in very good condition and comes with full luagge. I cant wait to pick it up next week.
There is only one gripe I have with it.
Its the seat. I have a flat seat on the bandit. The seat on the v strom is curved and the hump for the pillion seat I keep sliding on is uncomfortable.
Do you get used to this? If not then I will ve to get the seat modified so driver and pillion part are flush i.e. the same height.

Cheers.

nice, you wontgo wrong with it, i love my yoke, as far as the seat goes, ive never had any problem with sliding on my seat, but the daughter said she slides on the pillion seat but I said it might be because she had on wet gear.so don't know really. my seat is the top one in the pic you showed.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 26-03-2017 07:06PM

MSVforever wrote: »

Thanks guys!
I put down a deposit for a 2007 v strom 650 at a dealer yesterday. Its in very good condition and comes with full luagge. I cant wait to pick it up next week.
There is only one gripe I have with it.
Its the seat. I have a flat seat on the bandit. The seat on the v strom is curved and the hump for the pillion seat I keep sliding on is uncomfortable.
Do you get used to this? If not then I will ve to get the seat modified so driver and pillion part are flush i.e. the same height.

Cheers.

You're just not used to that new seat is all. You'll get used to it, and I'd advise against spending money on something like that because you'll be doing it with every bike you buy.

A pillion likes to sit a little higher than the rider, gives them something to look at rather than the back of your head.

If you are going to spend money I'd advise you get to (if its not already fitted) a bash plate and engine bars.. Together they'll cost you about €300 from HEED in Poland, DON'T go for Givi ~ they're just way too expensive for the same thing.

They really beef up the look of the bike, and tbh without the splash plate the down pipe and oil filter are exposed to debris, rocks etc. A bash plate is money well spend.

Best of luck with the new purchase, you won't regret it. They're a lovely bike.

MSVforever · 27-03-2017 02:09PM

Thanks Eire forever.
Maybe I just need to get used to it.

Nice bike btw!

MSVforever · 27-03-2017 02:23PM

Thanks Mak.

I probably need some time to get used to it.
When I took the V strom out for the first spin I loved the riding position straight away. However I will need to practice a good bit until I get confident as with the bandit (especially when chucking the bike around bends/corners).
A pillion doesn't come into the equation yet even though my 4 year old daughter is dying to get on the back of it

Bash plate, engine bars and luaggage are already fitted.
Down the line I will get an aftermarket exhaust though. Any suggestions?

Thanks again!

EIRE forever · 27-03-2017 05:45PM

MSVforever wrote: »

Thanks Eire forever.
Maybe I just need to get used to it.

Nice bike btw!

no worries,you'll get use to it, I've ridden for hours on it an was very comfy, only thing I had which most bikers get is the cramps after long trips.

cheers, I don't know why the pic came out sideways though haha

you've chosen the right bike anyhow (thumbs up) best of luck with it

G650GS vs V Strom 650 vs Transalp 650?

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