Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 MOD NOTE POST 1*

danganabu · 02-03-2017 05:17PM

Topcat32 wrote: »

Im just curious as to why you are attacking his opinion so strongly and using such emotive words as hyperbolic, hope thats clear, im not questioning your opinion that the original comment was an exaggeration, which you are of course entiltled to state.

Hyperbole has the exact same meaning as exaggeration, I'm not sure why you feel it was any more emotive or strong?

I already stated that I fully agreed with, I think it was, dubcat who stated that a returning Aylward in 2015 form would be a big improvement on last year, but a scoring machine is a bit OTT, answer me this, would he make the Tipp FF line?

unrealtime · 02-03-2017 05:36PM

Without a doubt

danganabu · 02-03-2017 05:38PM

unrealtime wrote: »

Without a doubt

Instead of??

Topcat32 · 02-03-2017 05:47PM

danganabu wrote: »

Hyperbole has the exact same meaning as exaggeration, I'm not sure why you feel it was any more emotive or strong?

I already stated that I fully agreed with, I think it was, dubcat who stated that a returning Aylward in 2015 form would be a big improvement on last year, but a scoring machine is a bit OTT, answer me this, would he make the Tipp FF line?

I think it suggests he deliberately exaggerated and was slightly strong, but maybe thats just me, at the moment he clearly he wouldnt get into the Tipp FF line

Moving away from your question in late 2015, I think he would have got into the Tipp team, is a type of player that we are lacking at the moment and I hope he recovers fitness and get back into the team this year.

danganabu · 02-03-2017 06:12PM

Topcat32 wrote: »

I think it suggests he deliberately exaggerated and was slightly strong, but maybe thats just me, at the moment he clearly he wouldnt get into the Tipp FF line

Moving away from your question in late 2015, I think he would have got into the Tipp team, is a type of player that we are lacking at the moment and I hope he recovers fitness and get back into the team this year.

Can't argue with that.

But look at his latest post he says that he would make the current Tipp FF line, so my accusation of hyperbole doesn't seem so strong.

thelittleman · 02-03-2017 07:42PM

kilkenny have great talent coming through, surely they are favourites for u21 with there great bunch of talent!

brookville · 02-03-2017 08:13PM

thelittleman wrote: »

kilkenny have great talent coming through, surely they are favourites for u21 with there great bunch of talent!

I wouldn't say favourites but definitely this year's crop will be strong backboned with the 14 minors that won the all ireland and a few more like pat lyng who weren't on the team. We've dublin at home but dublin have gone with a lot of youngsters in their senior team so this should also help their development and bring them up to speed

Topcat32 · 02-03-2017 08:43PM

brookville wrote: »

I wouldn't say favourites but definitely this year's crop will be strong backboned with the 14 minors that won the all ireland and a few more like pat lyng who weren't on the team. We've dublin at home but dublin have gone with a lot of youngsters in their senior team so this should also help their development and bring them up to speed

Pretty sure Pat Lyng was on the team playing half back, Richie Leahy was an unused sub tho.

thelittleman · 02-03-2017 09:01PM

Correct

dubcat51 · 02-03-2017 09:14PM

thelittleman wrote: »

kilkenny have great talent coming through, surely they are favourites for u21 with there great bunch of talent!

I agree with that.good bet for u21s imo

brookville · 02-03-2017 09:15PM

thelittleman wrote: »

Correct

Yer correct sorry I was thinking of him in the forwards.The fowards could probaly look like like leahy,lyng,morrissey,walsh,blanchfield,murphy all who are in with the seniors.scanlon,cleere,delaney and tommy walsh who are all in with the seniors and most have intermediate experience last summer with the county should hopefully stand to them

Nedflanders02 · 03-03-2017 10:09AM

brookville wrote: »

Yer correct sorry I was thinking of him in the forwards.The fowards could probaly look like like leahy,lyng,morrissey,walsh,blanchfield,murphy all who are in with the seniors.scanlon,cleere,delaney and tommy walsh who are all in with the seniors and most have intermediate experience last summer with the county should hopefully stand to them

We really should have a strong team this year at U-21, even with the forwards named there, which are really strong, you have the likes of Billy Ryan, Andrew Gaffney and Ronan Corcoran to add into that. At the back then we've the likes of Tommy Walsh, Conor Delaney, Huw Lawlor, the 2 Mullen's, Michael Cody, Jason Cleere, Ryan Bergin, Luke Scanlon, Conor Browne for the backs/Midfield area and Darren Brennan in goals we should have a really strong team. If we don't do well this year at U-21 level it's definitely not down to a lack of talent.

Mankbag · 03-03-2017 04:01PM

unrealtime wrote: »

An All Star scoring machine as recognised by his peers of course

When and how was he "recognised by his peers"?

unrealtime · 03-03-2017 09:37PM

More messing with team against Cork - Cody needs to get a grip

dubcat51 · 03-03-2017 09:40PM

Whats the team?

paulie gaultieri · 03-03-2017 09:56PM

Who is going to go between the sticks if something God forbid happens to Murphy?

Nedflanders02 · 03-03-2017 09:59PM

dubcat51 wrote: »

Whats the team?

E Murphy
P Murphy, P Walsh, C O'Shea
C Fogarty, J Cleese, K Joyce
C Buckley, P Deegan
TJ Reid, C Fennelly, R Leahy
R Hogan, C Martin, W Walsh

adrian522 · 03-03-2017 10:01PM

unrealtime wrote: »

More messing with team against Cork - Cody needs to get a grip

Posters around here need to get a grip. The league is the perfect time to "mess around with the team"

After the All Ireland last year everyone was crying out for new players to be tried.

This is what trying new players looks like. If we want to play our strongest tea every week, yes we will do better in the league but likely be beaten in similar fashion in August or September.

Team is here:

http://www.kilkennygaa.ie/news/read/id/1918

brookville · 03-03-2017 10:13PM

adrian522 wrote: »

Posters around here need to get a grip. The league is the perfect time to "mess around with the team"

After the All Ireland last year everyone was crying out for new players to be tried.

This is what trying new players looks like. If we want to play our strongest tea every week, yes we will do better in the league but likely be beaten in similar fashion in August or September.

Team is here:

http://www.kilkennygaa.ie/news/read/id/1918

Great opportunity for jason cleere I think he has potential to be a very good number six,obviously richie reid is injured which is a shame as he needs a few games.
Paul murphy back in his rightful position and number 4 is up for grabs I would like to see delaney at 4.
Overall I'm happy with the team conor martin getting a chance he'd want to start taking it as I feel there's better fowards around.
I posted during the week i heard chris bolger isn't on the panel it's looks to be the case now

citykat · 03-03-2017 10:21PM

Nedflanders02 wrote: »

J Cleese, !!

Lol. Don't mention the war.

dubcat51 · 03-03-2017 10:26PM

Fair team.as stated by other posters martin really has to take this chance.cork full back line is poor so hopefully we can shut down their short passing running game and push on.

citykat · 03-03-2017 10:28PM

paulie gaultieri wrote: »

Who is going to go between the sticks if something God forbid happens to Murphy?

Have no fear. Be brave. Richie Reid is an excellent keeper.

paulie gaultieri · 03-03-2017 10:52PM

Reid not listed amongst the subs

minty81 · 03-03-2017 10:59PM

Alan murphy will double up as sub keeper I'd imagine

davidx40 · 03-03-2017 11:25PM

Are people on this for real favourites for u21??? and westmeath bet us last year ....some people on here have blinkered views about kk hurling

dastardly00 · 03-03-2017 11:31PM

unrealtime wrote: »

More messing with team against Cork - Cody needs to get a grip

I think you need to get a grip tbh!!

Topcat32 · 03-03-2017 11:36PM

davidx40 wrote: »

Are people on this for real favourites for u21??? and westmeath bet us last year ....some people on here have blinkered views about kk hurling

Who said we were favourites? But lets explore all of the facts David before being sensational, the team won the All Ireland at under 18 level, some of the players have 3 senior collages medals, were missing 3 of their best players in the match against Westmeath, and lets be fair Westmeath were a decent team, imaginary lines on a map cant prevent a county from having a decent team every once and a while.

I dont think we are favourites but we have talented players as evidenced by the fact that we had more players involved this year at fitzgibbon and freshers level in collages competition this year, which increasingly is the true measure of underage talent.

davidx40 · 03-03-2017 11:53PM

Some of the posters earlier said we were favourites , which i just cant agree with....i do think we are over rating a lot of our players coming true ...there is no real stand out player ....

brookville · 03-03-2017 11:53PM

Topcat32 wrote: »

Who said we were favourites? But lets explore all of the facts David before being sensational, the team won the All Ireland at under 18 level, some of the players have 3 senior collages medals, were missing 3 of their best players in the match against Westmeath, and lets be fair Westmeath were a decent team, imaginary lines on a map cant prevent a county from having a decent team every once and a while.

I dont think we are favourites but we have talented players as evidenced by the fact that we had more players involved this year at fitzgibbon and freshers level in collages competition this year, which increasingly is the true measure of underage talent.

It's the 1st time in a long that so many u21s are on the senior panel.Two starting sunday 4 on the subs and lyng injured while scanlon and walsh will be near the squad
This certainly doesn't guarantee success at u21 and can sometimes upset the u21 squad when the senior players return but I'd be hopefull this crop can deliver a leinster title

Topcat32 · 04-03-2017 12:03AM

davidx40 wrote: »

Some of the posters earlier said we were favourites , which i just cant agree with....i do think we are over rating a lot of our players coming true ...there is no real stand out player ....

I dont think they did but to be fair they did say we had a great chance, was Eddie Brennan, Martin Comerford, Derek Lyng, Jackie Tyrell and even Henry Shefflin a stand out player coming out of minor, I think its too early to say either way but personally I think Blanchfield, Morrisey, Scanlon, cleere, Walsh, delaney, lyng, leahy, mullen and cody are above the average talented Kilkenny underage player and could turn out great, depends on how they deal with pressure and how their bodies can cope with the physical demands of modern intercounty hurling.

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