TUS Programme

schizo1014 wrote: »

Hi I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I recently started a TUS scheme but noticed I'm getting deducted €10 tax every week, is this normally the case?

MFlack2012 wrote: »

HI,

I'm in the same boat. My Tus advisor said It's emergency tax and once the documents go through to the tax office, that they sent off, I will get it back.

Just to clarify the tax situation folks. You are correct; in the majority of cases, you will not be paying tax on a Tus payment.

The €10 per week is common and stems from a person that was in receipt of €188 per week on JA. When they stsrt Tus, they move to the minimum payment of €210.50 per week.

If a spouse is working, they, in many cases, have at some point been awarded full credits to minimise their PAYE exposure leaving the partner with a baseline €1650 credit for the year. This figure when spread over the year works out at weekly credit of €32 per week.

To calculate weekly tax due, simply take 20% of the €210.50 and subtract the weekly credit:

210.50-20%=42
42-32(weekly tax credit)= 10

You will get it rebated in many cases but in situations where a spouse's credit is reduced in order to increase yours, then it will be week 1 for the year. This in effect will mean you will not get the rebate(week 1 basis) but from the time the credit is reapportioned, you will then be tax free . You can claim any tax paid once you have completed the programme or in January of the following year, whichever comes first.

Note: The new system requires all people to register for PAYE online, receive a PIN, then enter their employment details. A bit more complicated for some compared to the old system where you simply rang up and spoke to an actual person.

votecounts wrote: »

Asking for a friend who is on gateway, what were the changes that were announced yesterday by the the minister or were there any? don't have time to spend ages searching as i'm at work

Hi,

The Minister for Social Protection talked about the future of Tús and Gateway in the Dail on the 23rd of February.
You can hear what he says by going to the link that I've provided and skipping to the video at 2:33:04.
He is asked a Parliamentary Question by Deputy O' Dea regarding the future of labour activation schemes.

The Minister said that he is bringing a memorandum(a guidance of operations) to the government in the next few weeks. My impression is that there may be a possibility that the schemes are to be either scaled down or discontinued but Varadkar was a bit vague with his response to be honest. There were reports in the media a few weeks ago that Paschal Donohue wants to axe the schemes to save money for the next budget.
My personal feeling is that there's a tacit understanding in the government that the JobPath scheme is going to replace Tús and Gateway.

Here's the link: http://www.oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=34661&&CatID=130



Is this what you were looking for?

myappeal wrote: »

Hi segosego89,

Just picking up on something you said:

My personal feeling is that there's a tacit understanding in the government that the JobPath scheme is going to replace Tús and Gateway.

Do you think that the DSP will seek to use time on TUS and Gateway as allowable 'training' time for the purpose of JobPath? Given JobPath is a pay-by-result employment support, placement on a TUS/Gateway type post would not attract any payment for the JobPath provider.

To be honest I don't know much about what people in JobPath specifically have to do? I know that they have to attend meetings etc. Must they take courses etc?
I'm not sure I understand your question:
Are you asking whether a person who is currently on a Tús placement will be allowed to use their time spent on Tús as time spent on JobPath?

myappeal wrote: »

Hi,

Sorry for any confusion... the myriad of schemes and options makes things complicated... even at the best of times.

Just thinking that it might be an issue for JobPath to be used replace TUS/Gateway given that Jobpath only lasts for 12 months. In order to engage with Jobpath the person must be on Jobseekers payment and its a pay-by-result.

The jobpath provider will not get paid for putting somebody on TUS/Gateway as its not employment, if they seek to use jobpath to replace TUS/Gateway there would have to be jobs to put them in at the end of the jobpath engagement or else the provider will not get paid.

I suppose its similar to the logic regarding Jobpath and community employment, given CE is not a job, Jobpath does not place people on CE and could not replace CE given their differing roles.

Apologies, I didn't mean that Jobpath would replace the Tús scheme in a way in which the Jobpath people would be responsible for putting people into jobs similar to the ones provided by Tús. I meant it would replace Tús in the way that it is supposed to get people back to work. Sorry for not being clear about what I meant!

Tús was created during a time where jobs were not plentiful but now that the economy has picked up the government came up with the Jobpath scheme which is a system that is supposed to push people on the live register into private sector jobs.

The point of Jobpath is to put people into jobs available in the private sector rather than jobs that are supplied by the state(CE schemes etc).

The idea is that Tús and Gateway will be abolished and it will be the responsibility of the Local Authority to hire people for work related to the council. It's the responsibility of the council to hire people to work in jobs that would have had been dealt with by the Tús scheme.

UDAWINNER wrote: »

anyone on the this scheme, be able to give an insight what jobs are available on this or is the same crowd that i see picking up litter in the town of carlow as an example

There are many jobs available under the scheme if you are willing to work and see it as experience. If you are educated and looking for work in a particular role, I had a job lined up within minutes of speaking with the advisor. If you are uneducated in a particular role, I've heard it can take a week or two.

UDAWINNER wrote: »

if you have a TUS job lined up but also a CE scheme interview in the same week, which one should you give preference to. On a side note for the interview would shirt and trousers be suitable or would a suit be essential
Thanks in advance

A CE scheme

TUS is for one year and after that you have to go
Ce is at first for one year with the possibility ( if both parties want to ) extend it for another year or more

You can go for TUS first with a chance to move afterwards to CE but from CE to TUS is not possible
I'm almost finished on TUS and already asked for a CE scheme with the option to go on with it for 6 years

crossmolinalad wrote: »

A CE scheme

TUS is for one year and after that you have to go
Ce is at first for one year with the possibility ( if both parties want to ) extend it for another year or more

You can go for TUS first with a chance to move afterwards to CE but from CE to TUS is not possible
I'm almost finished on TUS and already asked for a CE scheme with the option to go on with it for 6 years

Wow! 6 years on CE Scheme?!? Why would the plan be that you'll be on it for six years, should they not be more focusing on that you'll be in fully-paid Employment in six years?!? Are they not supposed to be winding down the Schemes though?!? That sounds like a head-wrecker, - engaging with Officers for the next six years! :eek::eek: I'm pretty-much all for them anyway. It's better to be doing something!

Just got the letter, looks like it will be a "few weeks" until interview. How long on average do you suppose it takes them to offer you a placement after the interview? Say if you are in Dublin with moderate IT skills but not much else.

Hoping to find a real job before they find something.